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Syrian Rue Advice
    #1424688 - 04/03/03 12:29 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I was just wondering where are they best placecs to get syrian rue and in what form. Also what is the best way to prepare syrian rue and how much?

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Re: Syrian Rue Advice [Re: Billowz]
    #1425505 - 04/03/03 07:59 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

well, online prices can vary from $US5-10 per oz to like $15-20 per lb...
seeds is commonest, but roots will also work...
sometimes middle eastern or indian stores will have the sseds on their shelves (sold as spand or esphand or zit-el-harmel, for incense or even as source of color for cloth dyeing...)
the seeds have other alkaloids in them besides the betacarbolines harmine & harmaline, and the other chems are more like anticholinergics in their effects...
ingestion methods include:
grinding 'em up & swallowing or encapsulating
making a tea with lemon juice or vinegar
boiling the tea down to a goo & swallowing or encapsulating the goo
smoking the seeds or the goo
doing an extraction to sempure crystals via a/b or the manske/hasenfratz method (vinegar tea & adding salt & chilling to ppt crude HCl salts)
making a freebase ppt from the HCl salts of harmine/harmaline by dissolving in H2O & adding some ammonia soln to the liquid, & then ingesting or smoking the dried freebase powder
there may be other methods out there, but that's all i know about... i think...
doses of seeds varies from like a gram up to like 10 grams (and of course, alkaloid concetration may vary from like 2% up to like 7% or even more...)
& of the "pure" chems ingestion of anywhere from 50 mg up to several hundred mg (most find that 150 to 200 mg is usually plenty for "full MonoAmineOxidase Inhibition)
sometiimes taking a full capsule of 200 mg is sorta rough on the tummy, and so dividing into 3 66mg mini-doses, taken over an hour or two prior to ingesting the "main course psychedelic" (is it dmt, 5meo-dmt, shrooms, lsd, mesc, what???)
well, is that enuff info for ya??? i mean it's all been said before, several times, if you know how to utfse...

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