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GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen
    #14242418 - 04/05/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

http://minnesotaindependent.com/79839/gop-introduces-ban-on-drug-that-killed-blaine-teen

Four bills have been introduced in the Minnesota Legislature to ban a substance known as 2C-E, a “designer drug” that is being blamed for the death of a Blaine teen and the hospitalization of 10 more. Republicans in the House and Senate introduced a bill on Monday that would make possession and sales of the drug a crime. The move follows a similar pair of DFL bills introduced two weeks ago.

2C-E is a synthetic drug in the phenethylamine family, a group of psychedelic substances developed in the 1970s. It’s often sold under the name Europa and is legal to purchase in the United States.

A teen brought the drug to a party last month; ten teens who ingested it became ill and one died. Law enforcement charged the teen who brought the drug to the party with third-degree murder. The law under which he would be prosecuted is complicated.

2C-E is potentially legal, but a substance that is close in chemical structure, 2C-B, is illegal. Drugs with a “substantially similar” chemical structure and similar effects are called analogs, and under the Federal Analog Act, those analogs are illegal. Whether 2C-E is substantially similar hasn’t yet been determined in court as no prosecutions have yet been successfully initiated.

The Analog Act has been declared unconstitutional in some jurisdictions and constitutional in others, making the law controversial because the law is vague in what is deemed substantially similar.

The bills put forward by the Minnesota Legislature would make 2C-E and its analogs illegal. Specifically, the bill bans 2,5-dimethoxy-4-ethylphenethylamine, also known as 2C-E, and 2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine, also known as 2C-I.

SF1092 was introduced on Monday by Republican Sens. Dan Hall of Burnsville, Warren Limmer of Maple Grove and Carla Nelson of Rochester.

HF1359 was introduced by Republican Reps. Bob Barrett of Shafer, Glenn Gruenhagen of Glencoe, Diane Anderson of Eagan, Roger Crawford of Mora, Kelby Woodard of Belle Plaine, Steve Gottwalt of St. Cloud, Kathy Lohmer of Lake Elmo, John Kriesel of Cottage Grove, Tim Sanders of Blaine and Tim Kelly of Red Wing.

The lone DFLer on the House bill is Jeff Hayden of Minneapolis.

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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14242455 - 04/05/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Knew it was going to happen.


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14242572 - 04/05/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

wow. that's fast.


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #14242588 - 04/05/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

im glad i dont live in michelle bachmanns' home state...

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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Annapurna1]
    #14242824 - 04/05/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So wait...2C-E is legal right now depending on your jurisdiction?

This I did not know...


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Drise]
    #14242887 - 04/05/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's really in a rather legal grey area.  Based on the Federal Analogue Act, any of the Phenethylamines or related compounds can be judged to be analogues on a per case basis to judge that it meets 2 of 3 criteria outlined within the bill.  The law is very ambiguous and multiple rulings have been made as to the constitutionality on a state/local basis, as well as multiple assessments as to the application of the three outlined regulations within the bill.

The applied extent of the bill is entirely up to the prosecutors and the jury/judge overseeing the hearing.


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: 5-HT2A] * 1
    #14243064 - 04/05/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

One person dies from a drug, and they make it illegal for 5,303,925 people.

What a great country we live in. 

I hope the people who had anything to do with this bill have their entire families murdered in front of them.


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Society] * 2
    #14243279 - 04/05/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Clearly this drug is horribly dangerous, along with similar drugs.

This is why Alexander Shulgin died in 1965 as we all know. Damn you phenethylamines!... when will your terror end?


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Diacetylmentlegen]
    #14243353 - 04/05/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Let's ban alcohol and cigarettes because they kill millions. Oh wait that wouldn't be constitutional as so many people DONT die from those. Just kidding, it wouldn't be doable because theres too much legit money already flowing.

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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Society]
    #14243924 - 04/05/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Society said:
One person dies from a drug, and they make it illegal for 5,303,925 people.

What a great country we live in. 

I hope the people who had anything to do with this bill have their entire families murdered in front of them.






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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: MidRange]
    #14243956 - 04/05/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

One ignorant person dies and they JUMP SO FAST. If they weren't so quick to say , "OMFG THAT'S BAD GET IT OUT OF MY SIGHT!!!!!!1111!!!" and maybe put out some readily available and accurate info things like this wouldn't happen.


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: MidRange]
    #14244155 - 04/05/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Society said:
One person dies from a drug, and they make it illegal for 5,303,925 people.

What a great country we live in. 

I hope the people who had anything to do with this bill have their entire families murdered in front of them.








:lolsy:

Exactly what I was thinking.


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Remix]
    #14244175 - 04/05/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i wonder if it was really 2c-e? how does 11 people take it and everyone gets sick including a death? either they got their dosages wrong or it wasnt 2c-e


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: psychwrite]
    #14244464 - 04/05/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Honestly, who knows. These politicians are banning it just based on a few sensationalist stories like they always do. If they were really serious about seeing the truly destructive nature of the drug they would sponsor a number experiments and make their judgments accordingly.

Not that I'm saying the certain destructive nature of a drug should make for its legal status... as I'm the sort who thinks no drug should be illegal as far as personal usage is concerned. But, it's pretty clear that anybody who is willing to ban a drug based on a few (supposedly) related deaths is, by my account, definitely a shortsighted individual who has no place in political decisions.


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Remix]
    #14244518 - 04/05/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

In the next month or year we will see "Blaine's bill" for illegalizing 2c-e then let the media run with the "poor kid" scenerio reinforcing the drug is to blame not the poor kid.


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: psychwrite]
    #14244627 - 04/05/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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i wonder if it was really 2c-e? how does 11 people take it and everyone gets sick including a death? either they got their dosages wrong or it wasnt 2c-e




It's all bullshit.  Supposedly it tested positive for 2C-E, but I bet it was a false positive or it had some seriously bad adulterant.

This would be the first recorded death from 2C-E, and for all the rest of the other people to get sick (at least two people were in critical condition) the dose has to have been way off.

But if those doses were large enough to illicit such a bad response, then it would have had to have been quite expensive.

This story wreaks of raw horse shit.


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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: BobFromReboot] * 1
    #14245866 - 04/06/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Let's ban alcohol and cigarettes because they kill millions. Oh wait that wouldn't be constitutional as so many people DONT die from those. Just kidding, it wouldn't be doable because theres too much legit money already flowing.





When one person dies it is a tragedy.

When millions of people die it is a statistic.

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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14246217 - 04/06/11 06:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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When one person dies it is a tragedy.

When millions of people die it is a LOVELY MONIES!!! :crazy2:




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Re: GOP introduces ban on drug that killed Blaine teen [Re: Diacetylmentlegen]
    #14246711 - 04/06/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

It's called liberation and if you don't like it you can just git out!


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