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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14239616 - 04/05/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Honestly... just go give him a really big fucking :hug: and then :getstoned:

In whichever order you prefer.

tell him that see? Unlike heroin, I don't cause you to get arrested and nearly fuck up your life/your veins/your dignity. You only assist in :feelsgoodman: and :feelshighman: as a proper brother should.

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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14239618 - 04/05/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

heroin and opiates are a scourge.

fuck that shit, its like a terminal disease.

seriously....try to toke him up (weed) as much as possible to keep him occupied. i have seen it work.

Edited by Leanin (04/05/11 12:11 AM)

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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: Leanin]
    #14239627 - 04/05/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had so many chances to do heroin before. Im glad my mind was strong and refused. It feels so weird being around people while they are doing it. Like youre assisting the most heinous of crimes.


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14239631 - 04/05/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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realfuzzhead said:
:hug: thanks man.

just talked to my brother. Told himm not gunna kick is ass or talk shit to him, i know he's going through enough.


He turned to me and gave me the most sincere "sorry" ive heard in my life. Idk how those words hit me like that but damn.

life





That is cool.  You've got a friend here.

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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14239646 - 04/05/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have a little brother(16) too. I know what it's like to watch the brother you love make bad choices with stupid people... It hurts a lot being the older brother watching someone u would die for doing such things.

I hope he gets clean and you will e there for him. Much love mate.


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14239660 - 04/05/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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physicist said:
Quote:

realfuzzhead said:
:hug: thanks man.

just talked to my brother. Told himm not gunna kick is ass or talk shit to him, i know he's going through enough.


He turned to me and gave me the most sincere "sorry" ive heard in my life. Idk how those words hit me like that but damn.

life





That is cool.  You've got a friend here.




And you've got a friend here too.


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14239682 - 04/05/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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realfuzzhead said:
Little brother is 16 now, has struggled with a heroin addiction since 14, he was just a dumbass and didnt know what he was getting into. Was "supposedly" clean for the last 5 months, tonight he ended up getting arrested with a former really good friend of mine shooting up in his car.

I hate people who are all "my dr0ogz are better than you're dr0ogz", but i hate this drug so fucking much. I see my little brothers life crumbling before my eyes, and being the older brother it feels like the responsiblilty all falls on me for getting him off, since im on a different communication level with him than my parents are, but just like talking to any addict, it doesnt go anywhere unless the addict wants to quit.

i just have this sinking feeling were gunna get a call that he's dead one day.. so young and he is just dampening his oppurtunities so much its ridiculous.



/rant. know you guys dont really care but i have no other place to vent this stuff




I didn't start wanting to quit from my addiction until about a year and a half
ago... I've been clean since October, which is a miracle for me (having been
addicted for many years..)

I'm sorry to hear about your brother...
Condolences are about all one can give,
since advice is easy, but follow through
is difficult.

just love.
:heart:

todcasil:


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: Todcasil]
    #14239728 - 04/05/11 12:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ya'll are the shit. dunno whatd id do without the fellow shroomerites. Heroins a nasty drug, thank god ive never tried it, god knows id be in the same postitiion as him.

Spread the love people. Ima do my best to be there for him and ill keep the bowls packed :happyweed: and see where life takes us

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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14239744 - 04/05/11 12:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm sorry to hear about your brother, man.

I treat heroin like every other drug I've come across...it's something powerful that could easily suck me in to its world and swallow me whole. As soon as I say to myself "Man, this is fucked, I'm never touching this stuff again" I know all I'm doing is making the reward seem so much better.

Since your bro is so far down the hole, I think your approach should be harm reduction. Do what you can to make sure he's being careful with his doses and not doing stupid shit like sharing needles. Help him find some legit work so he doesn't steal for a fix. Shit like that will help keep him alive and hopefully out of prison, and maybe one day he'll just grow out of it.

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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14239792 - 04/05/11 12:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ive watched a few friends i considered brothers die and go to prison from meth. There wasnt much i could do besides tell them them and show them that it wasnt impossible to overcome the drug.

Although i hear H is more addicting physically i doubt its much less harmful.
Not much you can do if your brother dont respect what you say you much though.
Aside from showing him that its a overcomeable addiction and maybe the result is death or prison.

Best of luck though.


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14239806 - 04/05/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My brother told my sister that there are three paths.  "One year from now you will be dead, in jail, or sober."  Those were some sobering words.

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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14239842 - 04/05/11 01:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Dude I feel you on that but for me it was my father.  Because of his drug use and his actions trying to get the drugs, he's been in prison most of his life.  Granted that I'm older now I see the flaws in the system and wish drug addiction was seen as a health issue rather than a criminal one. 

I don't know if he's been able to quit but last time I saw him he was out on probation and we were in az visiting him.  I made the unfortunate discovery of finding the tourniquet in the garbage and showed my mother.  She told me that even though he was still using, he quit for the week while we were there.  Hes unfortunately back in prison only due to priors even after the other charges got dropped(hate maricopa county). 

I do have hopes for your brother and my father but I think the only way to help is to help them understand they don't need to be around the enablers that give/have access to their dependencies.  At least thats what I think.  Hope you have luck with him man, because I believe that you could help him more than a parent or friend.:sun:

Also if I ever had the chance again I'd tell him that I'd rather see him Light up a bowl and share it with him or so something that broadens his mind.  I just wish I could convince him to change his "highs" :/


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: runningfox2002]
    #14239883 - 04/05/11 01:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

how does your brother financially support his habit?

i've never known addicts to use only 1 bag a day unless they were trying to quit.  even if he's buying bundles we're still talking like 150-200$ a month minimum.  I didn't have that kind of money when i was a kid.

also, i would imagine a 16 year old would get the shittiest most expensive stuff imaginable/robbed alot.

I couldn't support a heroin addiction now i don't think. Buying in bulk you just end up using more.

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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14240639 - 04/05/11 08:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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shroomie_glen said:
Dude justco cain and abel and kill his ass.
hes obviously alifelong addict and is gonna use forever no matter what "rock bottom" is.
But really though, would it be better to see him suffer for a moment or his entire life?




I am so so SO incredibly sorry and genuinely apologetic for saying this....
I was very deep into a bottle of Tequila andfeeling froggy to say the least.
I know its no excuse but once again I apologize for my drunken tomfoolery.


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14240660 - 04/05/11 08:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, never been good with words..

But, isnt it like, You could put a lot of energy into something, and still enjoy it, but, what is the use, when that same energy is already amassing itself in its own time line?

You actually dont even have to answer, just think about it.

bai ;D


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14240883 - 04/05/11 09:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It is a difficult substance. I struggled with dope addiction from 15-22, four hospitalizations, countless OD's, permanent nerve damage.

Now completely clean, at least from habitual use of anything other than tobacco, but wake up calls don't always work like that. It's not that uncommon to be making plans to dose while still in the hospital recovering from an OD. I never intended to quit, it just happened.

Have you considered approaching him about methadone or buprenorphine maintenance? They can work wonders and have saved many lives.



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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14241071 - 04/05/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I know what you mean.  I have the same type of communication thing with my brother.  We haven't had to deal with heroin addiction, or even heroin (thankfully), but we have had our bumps that I felt 100% responsible for helping him get through. 

YOU HAVE TO TALK TO HIM.  You will get through to him on levels your parents would never be able to.  Talk to him.  You won't get immediate results but you need to at least give your say.  He's gonna do what he wants, but if he knows your looking after him and trying to help him and giving him advice and stuff he might get a different outlook on it.  With my brother, my mother could tell him one thing and then I could go tell him the same thing and hell understand it when I say it.


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: Funguspants]
    #14241212 - 04/05/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

good advice guys. feels good to know other people can relate, he's obviously started to detox/ start w/d's now. I gots plenty of weed and i told him my stash is open to him whenever he wants, if itll make him feel better.

ahh.. i got 12 hours of school today, hope everyone has a good day!

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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14241227 - 04/05/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

heroin is a :feelsbadman: type of drug.


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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14241268 - 04/05/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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realfuzzhead said:
Little brother is 16 now, has struggled with a heroin addiction since 14, he was just a dumbass and didnt know what he was getting into. Was "supposedly" clean for the last 5 months, tonight he ended up getting arrested with a former really good friend of mine shooting up in his car.

I hate people who are all "my dr0ogz are better than you're dr0ogz", but i hate this drug so fucking much. I see my little brothers life crumbling before my eyes, and being the older brother it feels like the responsiblilty all falls on me for getting him off, since im on a different communication level with him than my parents are, but just like talking to any addict, it doesnt go anywhere unless the addict wants to quit.

i just have this sinking feeling were gunna get a call that he's dead one day.. so young and he is just dampening his oppurtunities so much its ridiculous.



/rant. know you guys dont really care but i have no other place to vent this stuff



as a junky i do care

and this is very sad

u know

he will die from it

he need help bad

thats too young man

his brain developed along side a heroin addiciton

this is gonna be one difficult case of addiction

he needs help ASAP

he's too young to want it for himself. that probly wont come till his twenties once he sees wat hes lost

i hope im wrong

god bless

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