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ralphyx
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: alexc]
#14242473 - 04/05/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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alright fuck it im done. see ya.
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Midnight_Toker
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14242475 - 04/05/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Have a nice trip! (Meant with sincerity if you do decide to trip.)
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ralphyx
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thank you midnight toker.
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14242505 - 04/05/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It seems to me that regardless of what people say on this thread, you are going to trip. You are asking if you are safe to trip, but you don't take step by step information as a legitimate answer / recommendation to your question. It's nonsensical considering that Salvia as your first psychedelic could have a direct link to you being "safe". Also, if you are really hell bent on tripping you'll eventually find caps or lsd. This is coming from someone who has gone through a lot of dry periods, but if you are persistent and open you'll eventually find it. An area being dry is not a good reason to jump onto the Salvia train. Patience is a virtue.
Edited by alexc (04/05/11 03:35 PM)
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ralphyx
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: alexc]
#14242534 - 04/05/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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step by step is great, i want an opinion, i dont want anybodys moral values arguing with mine. im not asking should i, im asking if its going to be batshit insane and make me kill myself. thats what im asking.
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Midnight_Toker
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14242685 - 04/05/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Salvia doesn't last long enough to do anything and you can hardly move anyway. You won't do anything crazy. You will however get very, VERY mindfucked.
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alexc
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14242805 - 04/05/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's not a question of moral values. It's a question of you being below 18 with a fiance and a kid and wanting to trip. Morality has nothing to do with it, in fact I don't believe in a morality in it's purest sense, but I do believe in knowing which actions are stupid and non stupid when pre existing obligations exist.
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: alexc]
#14243239 - 04/05/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psychedelics are all about the person taking them. You have decided to take them to benefit (or not) yourself and no other person.
You are a father. You can no longer focus primarily on yourself. Your primary focus now is your child. If you can't handle that, you can't be a father.
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Midnight_Toker said: Only you can know man and nobody is ready their first time. You can read all the trip reports you want but doing it yourself is a whole nother level.
Yeah, that's true.
My first time on shrooms, I almost started to panic when it started coming on because it wasn't a very pleasant feeling (as the come up is wont to be) and so I started worrying that the trip itself would be like that, only moreso. But then it all went brilliantly and my OCD hit the floor
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ralphyx
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why cant i balance safely having a spiritual experience away from my daughter? it doesnt make sense, i dont want to get hard into psychs, i just want to experience a trip because it changes your spirituality for the better, im not looking to be selfish here, i just want to have my experience and move on. now as for the people who gave me their opinion on what i am asking, thank you. your opinion is greatly appreciated. i honestly dont see the harm in tripping for fifteen minutes at my friends house while my family is safe at home. this is mind fucking me more than the drug itself. just kidding, but whoever said salvia will mindfuck you, thats alright with me. just no spiders and shit.
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14243593 - 04/05/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ralphyx said: ive already done enough pot and jwh-018 to know i can responsibly handle "drugs" and my lifestyle at the same time.
i changed my mind. your not safe to take anything that might cause you to hallucinate. pot and synthetic pots are nothing like hallucinogens. if you think that smoking weed is anything like taking salvia then do some research and DON'T take anything until you have.
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14243750 - 04/05/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ralphyx said: ive already done enough pot and jwh-018 to know i can responsibly handle "drugs" and my lifestyle at the same time.
Really? Dude, you have a kid at 17 and aren't sure if you even like your fiance... I don't think you have proven you can "responsibly" handle drugs alongside your lifestyle. That is, unless your lifestyle and life goals consist of having kids at a foolish age with potentially unwanted partners.
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14243823 - 04/05/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Man, fuck these people saying you shouldn't do a drug because you are 17-18, have a kid, etc.
The thing is, you don't know what you're in for. You certainly won't see spiders and "hallcuniations" in the way you think you will. If you do salvia, and breakthrough, it will be so much more than that..it will completely shatter your reality (and for only around 2 minutes)
I think you should try it. It may scare you off psychedelics, and if so, then the people who don't want you to get involved with psychedelic drugs will have their way.
It will probably make you appreciate reality more, too.
I would do it.
Edit: If you do it and have aversion to it, don't think all psychedelics are like that. Salvinorin A is potent stuff. Also a lot of people say it feels like a dissociative more than a psychedelic.
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Edited by mikeisapro (04/05/11 07:25 PM)
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14243959 - 04/05/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You came here to hear what you wanted to hear, we didn't give it to you and now you're giving this community the finger while doing exactly what you knew you were going to do anyway.
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: alexc]
#14245915 - 04/06/11 02:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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alexc said: man up to your responsibilities first before you consider tripping. A fiance you aren't sure you want to be with? a 3 month child? and you're thinking about tripping? dude, get this reality straightened out before you venture off into another one.
LISTEN TO THIS POSTER. THE BABY IS AN HUGE ISSUE. I REFER YOU TO MY PREVIOUS POST.
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14245928 - 04/06/11 02:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ralphyx said: Things i do on a daily basis are meditate to relieve stress and i am currently in the process of exploring astral projection, I play guitar and compose music daily, I am a very spiritual person and i love exploring ways to explore the human mind, and alternate realities ect. (which is why ive been researching and reading about psychedelics).
You sound well suited to tripping. Don't worry about all that other stuff. If it does come into your experience then you can only learn from it. Just make sure you have a nice set and setting and your good to go.
Good vibes bro 
Edit: if you're thinking of taking salvia, don't. I'm don't consider it to be a psychedelic at all. Psychedelics are things like mushies, lucy and mescaline. Salvia is just shitfuckery.
Edited by Dawks (04/06/11 02:23 AM)
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: shroomzi8]
#14245942 - 04/06/11 02:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ralphyx;
I am going to have to be another one of the people telling you to pick a different drug. Salvia sucks. It will scare the shit out of you probably, if that is what you want, then by all means. If you want a psychedelic experience, the kind of classic psychedelic experience that is implied when you use those words, then take psilocybin, LSD, or mescaline. There are other options but those are your main three, and they are well documented, and their effects are essentially what you are looking for, not salvia. Just because salvia totally obliterates your existence does not make it more spiritual or introspective. Insanity is what it is. It does have its place but it is not in my brain. Some people like it. But you should start with something less forceful, more euphoric, and in a low dose, carefully working your way up each time. You used to cut yourself and that is a big warning sign. You doubt yourself and that is the biggest warning sign. You have a practically newborn baby if I'm not mistaken, I think you've got your priorities all fucked up honestly. Do you have a job? Are you doing everything that you need to do to support your child? If not, then get your shit together, trip later. I'm going to say maybe psychedelics aren't for you. They definitely aren't for you until you are an adult. Neither is this forum.
Edited by drr (04/06/11 02:27 AM)
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: drr]
#14245991 - 04/06/11 03:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ralphyx,
I am going to have to recommend taking salvia.
My first trip ever was on DXM, then Salvia. I LOVED them both.
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You sound like you're mentally stable from my point of view. So, if you have a good set and setting for the salvia experience then go for it.
By the way, as I'm sure you're aware, you might have a life changing epiphany or something during your trip (or after you come back from the trip).
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: ralphyx]
#14245996 - 04/06/11 03:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ralphyx said: alright fuck it im done. see ya.
no youre not..you'll keep researching and coming back for more.not saying you will learn,but you will come back for a while,not a first.
hearing just the little bit about you,I don't know if it would even be safe to put you in a room with cough syrup,let alone salvia.
I love saliva,it is single most dark experience one can have so instantly...but that's me,I embrace that part of it....the last thing you need is to have some bad judgement and act stupid and cut something or call your parents crying.leaving that kid with an even more disadvantaged position to start in life.
if you are going to act 14 and not listen to seasoned psychonauts,at least avoid salvia until later....15 minutes of wooden golems being aggressive and proportions changing could change you for the worse if you don't have a mature and ready mindset,which we can tell you don't quite have.
....take care of the kid,don't get on the news and lower psychedelic rep even more,good luck
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Re: Am i safe for a trip? [Re: Boheim]
#14246449 - 04/06/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guys im not trying to "give the community the finger" i know im sounding rude and stuff, but im just trying to specify what i want people to tell me, i dont care what the answer is, i just want opinions, and ive gotten them. mikeisapro, thanks for the posting. and thanks for everyone reccomending a different psych, i thank everybody who isnt telling me that im an irresponsible minor, if im underaged so what. it is no concern to you, i only shared this information to show stressors and things that could affect the experience, not to be rideculed. again, thank you EVERYBODY for your response, negative or not as long as you didnt disrespect me or my decisions. i like the info im getting and im taking them all into consideration, i think i will find someone with mushrooms and have more of a mellow time with that. maybe even acid, and to the person who said i thought jwh was a hallucinagen, i never said that. i said i can manage "drugs" along with my lifestyle, im sure i can manage a 15 minute psych trip.
Edit: and seriously, nobody knows how mature i actually am, just because i have terrible grammar doesnt mean i act 12 years old. having a child early in life matures somebody ten times faster then any teen, and dont say my child has a disadvantage in life, i support her 100% and we are financially stable indeffinately. I have a job, so dont call me on that. bashing me as a father isnt cool, im sure you wouldnt understand because you dont have one yourself, im not looking to go get high all day and forget about my life, im trying to have a life experience and i want ADVICE, not what i should do as a father, i want to know from veterans if i SOUND stable enough, i believe i am but its always good for a second opinion. i dont want your opinions on who i am or what i consider doing. I am well off in life, having a child hasnt killed my future, sorry to break it to you. and me and my fiance, we fight. thats all, sometimes i wonder, i didnt tell you that to get screwed on, i told you that because it may affect my experience, so if your not going to say something useful dont say anything at all. thanks.
Edited by ralphyx (04/06/11 08:48 AM)
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