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Patlal
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Re: Should drug addiction be viewed as a public health issue rather than a purely criminal matter? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14243595 - 04/05/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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wre said: Should drug addiction be viewed as a public health issue rather than a purely criminal matter?
absolutely not on both cases, it's a private health matter and my tax funds shouldnt be used to prosecute non violent drug offenders nor should it be used to pay for their rehabilitation
using the public health issue doesnt eliminate drug courts and all the other shit like the loss of rights based on a drug conviction, it's no more than a means of silencing the hippies that dont think for themselves and believe any of this crap has any meaning other than expanding the scope and power of US government and the 'police state'
Haaa yes...that mentality of 'my money won't be used towards your health'...
Its sad really. Cause no mather what the reason is, its another person life we are talking about. How can you let your people die because of money issues...
Healthcare is a basic human right issue in my head... should always be available for free. For those who don't want to wait, let them pay for it.
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AntiEverything
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Re: Should drug addiction be viewed as a public health issue rather than a purely criminal matter? [Re: orison]
#14243622 - 04/05/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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orison319 said: i dont know what the fucking difference, when someone is eating fatty food and could die from a heart attack just like some crack, smack or meff.. they dont arrest the fatties at mcdonalds for the rising cost in health care..
no offense but that is a horrible comparison.
first of all, mcdonalds food is not as unhealthy as smoking crack, nor as addictive. also people need food to live. what is your point exactly? that obesity should be a crime?
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amilibertine
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Re: Should drug addiction be viewed as a public health issue rather than a purely criminal matter? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14243623 - 04/05/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: i was under the impression that with rehab u had to "check in" and if it was court ordered then i also assumed you couldn't "check out", so it was basically the same as prison except you have softer beds, a few extra rooms to look at, and most likely no basketball, and then the extra activitys
Well lots of rehabs have different rules but none of them lock you in (unless they are already in a jail). It's not their responsibility to make you follow the terms of the terms of your probation.
Rehab is nothing like prison. Period. Rehab helps some people. Prison helps no one.
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KrishnaDreamer
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Re: Should drug addiction be viewed as a public health issue rather than a purely criminal matter? [Re: Patlal]
#14243647 - 04/05/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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private issue, not public.
nobody should be concerned that i like to smoke crack.
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makaveli8x8
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Re: Should drug addiction be viewed as a public health issue rather than a purely criminal matter? [Re: amilibertine]
#14243663 - 04/05/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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amilibertine said:
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makaveli8x8 said: i was under the impression that with rehab u had to "check in" and if it was court ordered then i also assumed you couldn't "check out", so it was basically the same as prison except you have softer beds, a few extra rooms to look at, and most likely no basketball, and then the extra activitys
Well lots of rehabs have different rules but none of them lock you in (unless they are already in a jail). It's not their responsibility to make you follow the terms of the terms of your probation.
Rehab is nothing like prison. Period. Rehab helps some people. Prison helps no one.
so your saying a person that had a choice and chose rehab could check in and then check out?
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Re: Should drug addiction be viewed as a public health issue rather than a purely criminal matter? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14243735 - 04/05/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i forget what documentary it was on but a country around Portugal had a real bad problem with heroin(like 6 in 10 ppl where addicted) took steps and devised a new drug policy where all drugs where legal and could be done openly(to some extent/or certain drugs) but the catch is if caught you need to see a committee board of like 5 ppl where they ask a couple Q's and then are given a paper with 2 options. option 1 was accept rehab for the problem. option 2 was that they were fine with their addiction and did not want any help. i think it said after a 1 or 2 year trial all drug use had dropped drastically especially within the teenage age group. heroin use was down to like 3 out of 10 ppl using. the country redirected the funds used in the jails to help the ppl that wanted the help(high quality care supposed) with rehab and other sources of help. and i guess this was done back in the mid 2000, maby 2004. if i can rember the name i will post it so yall can see what they did.
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