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Fuck People
    #14239784 - 04/05/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No matter what I do, I can't make friends and I'm sick of everyone and their bullshit. I've learned to enjoy my own company over the years, but at the same time have come to the realization that humans are meant to be social to an extent and can't be happy on their own 100% of the time. I'm tired of going to coffee shops alone, or going hiking alone, or going to San Francisco alone. Those are normal things that most people don't have to do alone. Everyone I know or make plans with blows me off at the last minute without even bothering to call and then acts like there's nothing wrong or rude about it.

I've tried everything, from going to groups that I'm interested in, taking classes, even trying to meet up with people on Craigslist. I've tried asking family members to introduce me to people. I've tried just relaxing and seeing if things would happen on their own while out doing things I normally do. People always tell me I'm a great person with decent interests and a good personality, but apperantly none of that matters. It seems like when I go to an event or group, everyone there is already with friends and doesn't care about meeting new ones. Either that, or the only other people on their own are buried in headphones or sitting in a corner text messaging and acting like they want to be left alone. I try to make conversation with people and smile and act as open as I can, but it never goes anywhere.

Every once in a while I'll get lucky, but it's rare and something always happens to screw it up. This time it was a guy I met at a class and we seemed to really hit it off. We had a lot in common and seemed to enjoy each others company a lot, and were making a lot of plans to do things. For a while, it even seemed like something more than friendship was going to happen between us. Then he decided to get together with this woman from his past and has now cut off our friendship out of fear that she would be upset or jealous about it.

Nobody seems to give a shit that I exist. I'll be surprised if this gets more than a couple responses because even people online don't care about anything I have to say. I just hate people so much right now.  No matter what I do, nothing ever changes. Fuck the guy I met and fuck this bitch he's with now. Fuck all of my "pseudo friends" that blow off our plans at the last minute and never call or email just to say they care. Fuck all of the people that I put out the effort to interact with but never hear from again. I don't even know any of you, but fuck all of you anyway.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust]
    #14239802 - 04/05/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:hug:  :chugbeer:


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust] * 2
    #14239803 - 04/05/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So much for 'astral stardust'.

:suicide:

Your post reminds of a singles ad wherein some angry woman demands: prove to me that not all men are assholes. You can guess how many responses she gets.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust]
    #14239812 - 04/05/11 01:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well, as hard as it is to believe but their are people on here that feel just the same way you do, if not worse, if it means anything my woman and newborn son are upstairs sound asleep without me because a couple others besides you have needed my help tonight, and willing to sit here however long it takes and make you feel better if you truley want to feel better.  with that out of the way... let me get a cup of coffee and we'll talk...


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust] * 1
    #14239815 - 04/05/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sorry you feel that way, I hope you find more happiness soon.  I know that friendships are hard to make and maintain, and I know that being alone gets old. If I lived in Cali or anywhere close I would invite you to hang out, but I live on the east coast.  If you just want someone to talk to you can pm me, I'm online a lot so I'd probably be able to get back to you pretty quickly.

It sounds cliche, but being positive about the future is really the best way to get things to work out like you want them to.  Good luck, I really hope you feel better about people and your life before too long. :peace:


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14239840 - 04/05/11 01:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

your current delima is not one of a rare stature, how would you consider you levels and standards  of judgement you have about other people?  you might try to spot someone you think has along the lines of the same issues you do and see if you can connect with that person on the commons of not wanting to be lonely and wanting to have someone to talk to when you need a friend...


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust]
    #14239848 - 04/05/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i've had my fair share of times like yours...when i feel like i don't have anyone and that i just hate humans in general.

this next part of my post might not seem very nice...and i'm not sure how it can be constructive....well it can...and i probably wouldn't ask if you were a dude...but chicks seem to be treated differently....

are you ugly or obese?


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14239864 - 04/05/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I found living on being strong and not leaning on others for support fashioned myself as how I wanted to be. Selfish I became because of being used, still I keep on and find problems a challenge. Cause when people who are supposed to protect you watch your every mover just about and smash your windows then i  turn the other cheek and let the momentum of their faults do themselves in. As I am stolen from and I do not grieve return for my life will be whole.

Peace.
Side of that, humans in general are changing. mystical it is not.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: curious mouse]
    #14239866 - 04/05/11 01:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sorry. I guess you don't dig being a loner. I don't know, are you seeking advice?

Maybe just find out that failure is the greatest success- then proceed to do something with it. Then again you said you do stuff.

The key I think is this- if your feeling like people hate you and you hate people people naturally don't even think to stay away from you, they just do. If your feeling something positive like I'm getting ready to gather this thing thats going to CHANGE THE WORLD!!! and its going to be fucking AWESOME! or really any other good feeling that feels self fulfilling to feel, people like that stuff and make a habit of hanging out with people who emenate that stuff...

But were all human. we all rise and fall and when I first saw this post I thought man... I remember when I felt like that. And your fuck yous gave me a huge smile because I know you're going to figure it out... It's not as hard as you think- the key is not making it so hard which can be difficult only if you make it. I enjoy meditation for this reason. Nice and easy meditation... weed helps too :-) when you got it


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Re: Fuck People [Re: JohnP]
    #14239938 - 04/05/11 01:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)


Bukowski agrees with you, I have at times felt this way. Although its a illusion to as there aren't exceptional people out there but just not that many.
Which is why i only have a few close friends but mostly  just acquaintances. Where in cali you at? maybe try moving to a new area.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: curious mouse]
    #14241338 - 04/05/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

curious mouse said:

are you ugly or obese?




The answer to this question could explain a lot.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust]
    #14241389 - 04/05/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

as another passive object i agree, sum people r just loners...sit back, smoke, and watch the idiots kill themsleves \,,/


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust] * 1
    #14242362 - 04/05/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's the same for me, although I tend to blame myself more than other people. I feel like I just don't understand how to interact with people and what they want from me.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: porcupine]
    #14242386 - 04/05/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Sayinsober said:
as another passive object i agree, sum people r just loners...sit back, smoke, and watch the idiots kill themsleves ,,/




To the OP:

You need to adopt the above mentality and develop interests that give you an appreciation of fellow Man. I find this can best be done with books, art, music, movies; and realize that there are far more brilliant people than that of yourself. You should also work on your social skills, just in case you're ever to encounter one of these brilliant people, because they really are out there. And not everyone is a potential friend, most are annoying/dishonest really, but just value whatever conversation they provide, as you can only learn, right. I think now that you've realized all your previous friendships have been shit, you'll be much better off recognizing new (true) ones, so cheer fucking up man:) Going places alone isn't bad at all, just enjoy the experience without conversation; you should be accustomed to it at this point anyways, right.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust]
    #14242601 - 04/05/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't even know any of you, but fuck all of you anyway.




Fuck you too! RAWR!


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Complexicated]
    #14242699 - 04/05/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Complexicated said:
Quote:

curious mouse said:

are you ugly or obese?




The answer to this question could explain a lot.




what's sad is that this is true in today's society.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: meatcakeman]
    #14243468 - 04/05/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Whatever, plenty of ugly fat chicks have lots of friends.  I live at the beach and I can promise you that.

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People always tell me I'm a great person with decent interests and a good personality, but apperantly none of that matters




Are these the same people who then choose not to be your friend? :lol:

I find it almost impossible to believe that a girl who likes the outdoors can't make friends.  Not to be mean...but maybe you just suck?

What you need is someone who's honest with you and can give you the 411 on why people don't want to be around you.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Cups]
    #14265042 - 04/09/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just to clear things up, I'm not ugly or fat so it's not that. I've asked people I know for constructive criticism of my personality but nobody has managed to come up with anything helpful so far. Some of my parents friends have suggested that it's because I'm mature for my age, so maybe that's the problem. I don't get along so well with other people in their 20s but the people I do feel comfortable around may be writing me off before getting to know me just because of the age difference.

Things aren't getting any better. I've been trying to get out and be social, but nothing ever comes from it. I wish I could just buy some fucking friends at this point. I might just sell all of my stuff and go to Peru to study Ayahuasca. I've been thinking about it for the last couple years and have nothing else in my life to live for.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust]
    #14265224 - 04/10/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Holy shit.

You sound just like me... Or how I used to be, I've been positive recently. And I go to SF alone as well hahahaha.

MAYBE WE CAN BE GIRL BEST FRIENDS~*~*~*

But on realtalk. . .

I felt the same a couple of weeks ago. I met some really lovely guy, thought we hit off well, but it turned to shit and we don't really talk anymore. I told my friend about it and she gave me this advice, which I think can apply to you and hopefully make you feel better... Because it definitely made me feel like it was okay to be the way I am.

"It's alright to feel that way. It's okay to be comfortable alone and don't care about it. Most of the time this feeling is a lot more convenient than being in love or pursuing a relationship."


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust]
    #14265912 - 04/10/11 08:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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I wish I could just buy some fucking friends at this point. I might just sell all of my stuff and go to Peru to study Ayahuasca. I've been thinking about it for the last couple years and have nothing else in my life to live for.




Go do it!

IMO your "need" to have friends is really masking something else...and a few good ayahuasca sessions would be a good way to get in "there" and see why you feel this way.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust]
    #14266000 - 04/10/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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No matter what I do, I can't make friends and I'm sick of everyone and their bullshit. I've learned to enjoy my own company over the years, but at the same time have come to the realization that humans are meant to be social to an extent and can't be happy on their own 100% of the time. I'm tired of going to coffee shops alone, or going hiking alone, or going to San Francisco alone. Those are normal things that most people don't have to do alone. Everyone I know or make plans with blows me off at the last minute without even bothering to call and then acts like there's nothing wrong or rude about it.

I've tried everything, from going to groups that I'm interested in, taking classes, even trying to meet up with people on Craigslist. I've tried asking family members to introduce me to people. I've tried just relaxing and seeing if things would happen on their own while out doing things I normally do. People always tell me I'm a great person with decent interests and a good personality, but apperantly none of that matters. It seems like when I go to an event or group, everyone there is already with friends and doesn't care about meeting new ones. Either that, or the only other people on their own are buried in headphones or sitting in a corner text messaging and acting like they want to be left alone. I try to make conversation with people and smile and act as open as I can, but it never goes anywhere.

Every once in a while I'll get lucky, but it's rare and something always happens to screw it up. This time it was a guy I met at a class and we seemed to really hit it off. We had a lot in common and seemed to enjoy each others company a lot, and were making a lot of plans to do things. For a while, it even seemed like something more than friendship was going to happen between us. Then he decided to get together with this woman from his past and has now cut off our friendship out of fear that she would be upset or jealous about it.

Nobody seems to give a shit that I exist. I'll be surprised if this gets more than a couple responses because even people online don't care about anything I have to say. I just hate people so much right now.  No matter what I do, nothing ever changes. Fuck the guy I met and fuck this bitch he's with now. Fuck all of my "pseudo friends" that blow off our plans at the last minute and never call or email just to say they care. Fuck all of the people that I put out the effort to interact with but never hear from again. I don't even know any of you, but fuck all of you anyway.




As I assume the people with who you make plans with, are rather new to you, don't take it too personally if they blow you off, or blow you off with no contact. People like to be in comfort zones because it is comfortable and right then they found something more comfortable.

People are selfish creatures, like life in general.

This is also the reason why that guy got together with that other girl and not you -- because he knew her better, saw a better chance of getting together (as a guy I can assure you that) and it was more comfortable for him.

You seek comfort too -- in friendships. You are in need. True friendships do not happen from neediness, they are not seeked out. The downside of it is that such things happen in enviornments that are hard to come by for a person who is completely alone. I know this because for the most of my life, I have been alone also.

As you see, life is selfish. And you can be selfish too. Blow people off. And you do not need to think, what that other person thinks of you, because honestly, that isn't even your business. Confidence. You don't need to think why that guy got together with that other girl and wether that girl is a bitch or not (whatever that means), because that too is not your business. Do not make plans in your head, make them in real, that way you won't be dissapointed when plans in your head don't match the plans of others in real life.

Generally I am a lone person too. People getting more away and away from me, but this doesn't bother me anymore, because I have understood that the only time you make friends in your life is in young years, because when you get older, you get more attached to the ones you already have, get families, go abroad etc. So, I have comen to senses that I have failed. And there is nothing I can do about it except doing stuff I usually do, enjoying the stuff I have always enjoyed.

So there were times when I were really lonely. So I found a friend who was a loner too. But guess what, both were out of nessecity, there isn't a level of comfort, its more just like to get out of some rut, which sucks. It may be that two lonely people have only onte thing to share: loneliness, depressing loneliness. So two lone people can be both alone and depressed, doesn't make any difference at all. He visits me only when he is in absolute need, and I tend to do the same. Only childhood friends, from teen years and before, are ture friends, others are more like contacts, they act so mature and polite that it is really hard to break the cold crust of people.

History creates friends: Some mutual experiences. Most experiences happen in young years when life is new. Some work enviornment can be good place to make history with people. I do not know about girls, but when I was doing construction work, I met some people whith whom was good to talk to during shoveling sand and after work good to drink some beers with. It is a lot better enviornemtnt than just drinking in some lousy party or just talking. Body is working, blood is flushing, oxygen is being taken in, mind is working, everything is working, there is mutual tiredness, mutual inner and outer enviornment.

Sex is natural thing that body needs, we have a bilogical clock for that. And sexual relationships somehow rely on level of friendship also. But since there is more bilogy involved, bigger biological need, some more drastic measures have been taken up: Dating. You get together with person and then it is up to you both what experiences you go trough, that creates that mutual "history". Different people experience things differently, thats how you see if there is a click or not: A loner experiences whole situation differently than the one that has not been alone, so the experience where the other experience is in, is new to him/her, which creates a great deal of miscommunication -- something to take into consideration, but the best way is just to speak it out if nessesary, so there is a mutual understanding. It does not matter what people think, peoples thoughts are their own business.

Going travelling is a good plan. I planned to do the exact same thing when I was completely alone. And I still think about it, although I am now attached.

But when you go to Peru, do not set your ayahuasca hopes too high. The shaman singing is sure the best thing you have ever heard and the trips are probably good, but you can't be there forewer. And Ayahuasca is really a big tourist attraction, the main reson why young people visit Peru in first place... In Lima, you could buy it from every corner.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Simms] * 1
    #14266050 - 04/10/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

this feeling will go away- i promise. you will find some one or they will find you, life has something beautiful for all of us and you too. you are going threw the perverbial "dry spell", thats all it is. i`ve been their too. do try to keep an open mind even though its hard right now, it wont always be this way. by trying to stay positive you will be open and ready when that "someone" comes along-and they will come along. life has all types of silly stages, thats what makes you "you". believe it or not, be-for long you are going to feel the opposite, saying man i need some space- i need some me time, remember this statement- it will happen and you will say- oh yeah, i remember "when". you will be o.k. i promise, you are worth knowing and are a person worth being friends with im sure of this.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: astral_stardust]
    #14266205 - 04/10/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Just to clear things up, I'm not ugly or fat so it's not that. I've asked people I know for constructive criticism of my personality but nobody has managed to come up with anything helpful so far. Some of my parents friends have suggested that it's because I'm mature for my age, so maybe that's the problem. I don't get along so well with other people in their 20s but the people I do feel comfortable around may be writing me off before getting to know me just because of the age difference.

Things aren't getting any better. I've been trying to get out and be social, but nothing ever comes from it. I wish I could just buy some fucking friends at this point. I might just sell all of my stuff and go to Peru to study Ayahuasca. I've been thinking about it for the last couple years and have nothing else in my life to live for.




All the phony interest on this thread "I'm sorry for you, let me know if there's anything I can do to help" is frankly nauseating.  These same folks face to face would likely run the other way. 

I'm with you OP in the phony cancel with no warning or call friends dilemma.  People suck when they do that, yet nowadays everyone is so "busy" (fucking spare me that excuse".  Yea mostly busy BSing with their other phony phriends via phone.  Now it's texting, anything to keep busy looking like you are popular.

That's what it really comes down to.  People that are the popular posers, the in crowd vs. the unpopular losers, the out crowd.  Surely the OP was Never a part of the In Crowd even in HS.  Because In Crowd people will always cling to other In Crowd people at ANY age.  They are the joiners, the gogetters, the committee types.  I hate all of them.

Yes, fuok people.  Even fuck you cause your probably a pretty cool chick and fuck me for ranting to you about fuck people.

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Re: Fuck People [Re: jacobensis]
    #14266207 - 04/10/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I agree with what Simms and Jacobensis said.

I hate to say this cliche quote, but... You will never love somebody else until you love yourself first.

Also, here's questions that you might want to ask yourself:

1. Do I hate myself?
2. Do I love myself?
3. Why do I do the things I do every day?
4. Why do I do the things that I love?
5. Why do I keep doing things that I hate?
6. Why do I do anything at all?
7. What do you need from the person you will fall in love with?
8. What do you need from yourself to keep going every day?
9. How do these things affect how I treat myself?
10. How do these things affect how I interact with other people?

I'd like to think that those are ten really hard questions. They may take days, weeks, months and possibly even years to answer. But they can offer you a lot of clarity and insight if you can eventually figure them out and come to terms with them, as they have with me.

Sorry that this post is so long... But, I PROMISE you that changing your mindset and appreciating the littlest things will change everything. Life is a gift.

Being such a downer takes up so much energy and stress, and becoming less close minded about people may help. Everyone is their own being and every single person is different.

I hope ya feel better soon. Please start thinking more positively!


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Re: Fuck People [Re: elliev]
    #14266398 - 04/10/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why are people so afraid of loneliness depression or even hate?  Got some sad news for you people.  You are all going to die and likely it will be alone.  So all this pretending that life isn't going to end, that love is forever, that we are going to heaven and be eternally blissful, is just that.

Pretending.

Get real.

Yes, you hate yourself you are a perfectionist you were trained that way and it will be very hard not to hate an imperfect being such as yourself.  But keep trying.  Just remember overanalysis about the problem of overanalysis won't cure it. 

Get out and play, throw a Frisbee.

Old School.


Edited by LunarEclipse (04/10/11 10:40 AM)


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Re: Fuck People [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14266814 - 04/10/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

^ This is one of the best things I've read recently. :smile:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Fuck People [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14267222 - 04/10/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why are people so afraid of loneliness depression or even hate? 




People are pack animals.  Maybe the op could get a dog to play Frisbee with and whatnot.  She could get together with other dog owners and have doggie play dates.  I seriously know people who do this. :grin:


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Simms]
    #14267503 - 04/10/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Generally I am a lone person too. People getting more away and away from me, but this doesn't bother me anymore, because I have understood that the only time you make friends in your life is in young years, because when you get older, you get more attached to the ones you already have, get families, go abroad etc. So, I have comen to senses that I have failed. And there is nothing I can do about it except doing stuff I usually do, enjoying the stuff I have always enjoyed.




Self-fulfilling prophecies are sure a bitch, eh?  You can tell yourself there is nothing you can do all you want and that's what you'll get, but not because of any real failure.  Rather cause of some silly mental block you've accepted as truth.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Byrain]
    #14267692 - 04/10/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Byrain said:
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Simms said:
Generally I am a lone person too. People getting more away and away from me, but this doesn't bother me anymore, because I have understood that the only time you make friends in your life is in young years, because when you get older, you get more attached to the ones you already have, get families, go abroad etc. So, I have comen to senses that I have failed. And there is nothing I can do about it except doing stuff I usually do, enjoying the stuff I have always enjoyed.




Self-fulfilling prophecies are sure a bitch, eh?  You can tell yourself there is nothing you can do all you want and that's what you'll get, but not because of any real failure.  Rather cause of some silly mental block you've accepted as truth.





You suggest one should always search something and certainly not live like a tree sloth, who surprisingly seems to ejoy its life very much?

Acceptance of failure is not always giving up, its just the acceptance of things that are.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Simms]
    #14267768 - 04/10/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Simms said:
You suggest one should always search something and certainly not live like a tree sloth, who surprisingly seems to ejoy its life very much?




What? :confused: I didn't suggest that, I suggested that your analysis of the situation was flawed.

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Simms said:
Acceptance of failure is not always giving up, its just the acceptance of things that are.




Now you're just making excuses.  Don't assume that's how it is when you lack the desire to reach out.  Think of it like a mirror, all you're going to get out of it is what you add yourself.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Byrain]
    #14267821 - 04/10/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Byrain said:
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Simms said:
You suggest one should always search something and certainly not live like a tree sloth, who surprisingly seems to ejoy its life very much?




What? :confused: I didn't suggest that, I suggested that your analysis of the situation was flawed.

Quote:

Simms said:
Acceptance of failure is not always giving up, its just the acceptance of things that are.




Now you're just making excuses.  Don't assume that's how it is when you lack the desire to reach out.  Think of it like a mirror, all you're going to get out of it is what you add yourself.




That's why I'm starting with me.  I'm starting with the man in the mirror.  Oh yea.



Wooh.  Woooh.  Wooooohhh.  Yeah yeah.  Nah nah nah etc.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14268202 - 04/10/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I lov e fucking people


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Re: Fuck People [Re: auxiliary]
    #14270398 - 04/11/11 01:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah sounds like you just need to get straight blasted off of some DMT, Ayahuasca style.

Go do it. Not for anyone else, but for you.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Byrain]
    #14270954 - 04/11/11 07:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Byrain said:
Quote:

Simms said:
You suggest one should always search something and certainly not live like a tree sloth, who surprisingly seems to ejoy its life very much?




What? :confused: I didn't suggest that, I suggested that your analysis of the situation was flawed.

Quote:

Simms said:
Acceptance of failure is not always giving up, its just the acceptance of things that are.




Now you're just making excuses.  Don't assume that's how it is when you lack the desire to reach out.  Think of it like a mirror, all you're going to get out of it is what you add yourself.





It is not that I give up on myself and life. It is about the issue I have with "you constantly have to analyze yourself, have to find issues, constantly need to improve yourself" attitude. For what? Self being is just as cool, it doesn't deny progress. But if one is ALWAYS SEARCHING for progress, one forgets the fruits of progress really quickly, which is happening right here. Surprise surprise: You will never find exactly what you are looking for, world is just too complex for that. But simple enough for you to enjoy it.

You just sounded like you are accusing me of giving up on myself. I am not doing that, because right now I am enjoying the way I have progressed so far. People always progress one way or another, what already is, passes quickly and you can not change that, so better be happy with what you have so you could enjoy the moment that comes in the next second.


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Simms]
    #14271073 - 04/11/11 08:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Simms said:
It is not that I give up on myself and life. It is about the issue I have with "you constantly have to analyze yourself, have to find issues, constantly need to improve yourself" attitude. For what? Self being is just as cool, it doesn't deny progress. But if one is ALWAYS SEARCHING for progress, one forgets the fruits of progress really quickly, which is happening right here. Surprise surprise: You will never find exactly what you are looking for, world is just too complex for that. But simple enough for you to enjoy it.

You just sounded like you are accusing me of giving up on myself. I am not doing that, because right now I am enjoying the way I have progressed so far. People always progress one way or another, what already is, passes quickly and you can not change that, so better be happy with what you have so you could enjoy the moment that comes in the next second.




You're reading too much into what I am saying, which is not about what you should or should not attain for, but rather the broad & misplaced brush strokes you paint human relations with.  Like I said, think of it as a mirror, if you want to be alone that is what you'll get.  Not because people don't make friends when they're older or other excuses you have told yourself enough times to believe.  Sure, there are a lot of sheeple out there, but if that's all you see you're not looking hard enough. :smile:


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Re: Fuck People [Re: Byrain]
    #14271250 - 04/11/11 09:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Have faith. Things will get darker or brighter, but that's part of the ride. :dancingbacon:


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Step 2: Realize they must be Gods
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