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Lighting/wiring question
    #14237006 - 04/04/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just ordered 4 of these to go inside my tubs (64 quarts each)  http://www.ledlight.com/video.aspx?v=rkAJVP4IAc4

My question is do you think they will produce enough light?  Also i bought these because i am putting the tubs in my garage in a place that is hard to get to that is why they are remote controlled and battery operated.  Could some one explain how i could wire several batteries in a series so i can go several weeks with out having to mess with them.  Other then clicking them on when i leave for work in the morning and clicking them off when i come home.

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Re: Lighting/wiring question [Re: deantheking]
    #14238691 - 04/04/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It wont answer to you question... but may help you to reconsider your setup...

Well, my first comment is : " Why did you bought that instead of regular fluorescent tubes, electrical extension cable and a timer ? "

Remember that important thing for mushroom is the blue SPECTRUM.. not the color BLUE !

LED as any other light could provide you enough or not enough light, but the first thing to consider is really the KELVIN spectrum range.

To use the optimal lightning you need is something around 5000-5500 Kelvin, the tube itself is usually called DAYLIGHT.

With that you'll be in business !!! :thumbup:

At last, remember that mushrooms arnt plants, so it dont need to have 10 thousands on Watts over the head to grow.

I'm personally using this setup:



An it contain only 40watts x 4 tubes of 4 feet long ( 2 tubes per rack )

And it's supply enough light to grow into a mini greenhouse of this type

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Re: Lighting/wiring question [Re: totenkopf]
    #14239119 - 04/04/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I dont have the ability to run power out there i live in the city and cords running across the lawn would raise questions and be a pain to mow around.  In one of RR post he says that LED's that are called "white light" will work so i think i am ok there.  Thank you for answering the will it be bright enough.  Anyone know the wiring configuration to put more batteries in a series?

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Re: Lighting/wiring question [Re: deantheking]
    #14239143 - 04/04/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

They don't give any information about what kind of batteries it uses on that site, so it's hard to say.

Once you get them and can post a picture of the battery compartment, I can help you.


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Re: Lighting/wiring question [Re: deantheking]
    #14239235 - 04/04/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Could some one explain how i could wire several batteries in a series so i can go several weeks with out having to mess with them.





that depends on the input voltage of the light and the voltage of the cells that you will be using. you will wire the batteries in series until you reach the light's input voltage and then wire more in parallel.

wiring in series increases the voltage. wiring in parallel increases the current (amperage). if your voltage gets too high it will burn out your light (like putting a 120v bulb in a 240v socket). increasing the power source's current is what will allow your device to run longer.

this is not something that i suggest you attempt if you dont know what you're doing. would've been much easier for you to use a CFL bulb on a timer.

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Re: Lighting/wiring question [Re: chinamon]
    #14239382 - 04/04/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Would it still have been much easier to use a CFL bulb on battery power?  If so could you tell me how.  I dont know much about electricity as you can tell but given proper instructions i am quite confident i could figure it out. The basic problem is how to get light on tubs using battery power and either a remote or timer.  I am open for suggestions.

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Re: Lighting/wiring question [Re: deantheking]
    #14239415 - 04/04/11 11:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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deantheking said:
Would it still have been much easier to use a CFL bulb on battery power?  If so could you tell me how.  I dont know much about electricity as you can tell but given proper instructions i am quite confident i could figure it out. The basic problem is how to get light on tubs using battery power and either a remote or timer.  I am open for suggestions.




a CFL bulb requires AC current. batteries offer DC current. you would have to convert DC to AC which is a whole different ballgame.

why are you so focused on using battery power? because the tent is in an area that is hard to get to? well, easy way to solve that problem: extension cord and timer.

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Re: Lighting/wiring question [Re: chinamon]
    #14239464 - 04/04/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Simply get the largest battery you can afford.  Most DC LEDs run on 12 volts.  If that's the case, get a car battery.  Once a month or so, take the battery into the garage and put a charger on it overnight.
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Re: Lighting/wiring question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14239623 - 04/05/11 12:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Simply get the largest battery you can afford.  Most DC LEDs run on 12 volts.  If that's the case, get a car battery.  Once a month or so, take the battery into the garage and put a charger on it overnight.
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Or if you want to use a CFL, get a 12V tractor battery, they last much longer than reg car batteries, get a replacement car lighter assembly, and a dc/ac power inverter that plugs into the cig lighter. Wire the car lighter socket to the battery, plug in the power inverter to the lighter socket and then plug your light into the power inverter.

Tractor batteries are the shit, I have one in my truck I have had for 7 years, I occasionally leave the interior lights on overnight (not on purpose) but every time the truck starts right up with the light still on. I think tractor batteries are made better because they are made to sit all winter and still work.

Here is a good link for a 12V LED foglamp you could hook right to a car battery. http://www.dealextreme.com/p/h7-5w-102-smd-led-6500k-460-lumen-white-fog-lights-for-car-pair-51062 They come in a pair so you could hook them both to one battery if you wanted. And, if you are big on stealth consider trying something like this to keep the electric away from the moisture.

PS: I have one of those remote tap lights, its great, but I wouldn't be putting it inside a 100% humidity environment, especially adding batteries and all. Battery operated things can start fires too.

PPS: Leds change color temperature or burn out with changes in current, I wouldn't be trying to wire something in series unless you have engineering experience. You can buy after market battery packs from radio shack or similar place that would have the same voltage output with more batteries if you still want to burn out your cool remote tap lights. On the bright side the one I have that is exactly like the one in your pic looks to be in the right color temp range judging it by comparing with my 6500k CFL, but they aren't very bright in lumens.


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