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realfuzzhead



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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: Apostle]
#14242014 - 04/05/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hopeless would be a good way to describe how i feel right now. Even if we get him off it now, its always gunna be there for him. He's only 16, and he doesnt realize how good life is for him now.
whats he guna do when life starts piling ontop of him? when he needs a job.. to go to college.. to get a car idk mang.
Thats why i fucking hate heroin, its ALWAYS gunna be there for him.
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yea
to be honest
its gonna take alot of hard work
a tradgedy, really
i'll pray for you and your family
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realfuzzhead



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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: Apostle]
#14242058 - 04/05/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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that what it feels like man. Like, i know he is truly sorry and he'll go through the motions of rehab and what not, but when i move out up state and my other sister moves out and my dad's gunna be 76-80 YO and he isnt gunna have the will power nor time nor energy to watch what he is doing and my mom works all day..
dman. i just cant seem to add this equation up to a positive result..
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Sucks man...I dunno what to say really, i think the best thing to do now is to just talk to him, be there for him, help him to not get into the usual shit addiction gets people into,it's all about damage-control now, he must want to quit and only he can get over it...until then I don't think that anybody can get him to really quit...
Not to be rude, but does he have any psychological problems? a lot of people medicate their problems away, I know I did, maybe there is an underlying cause to his addiction, or is heroin really that strong a drug?
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im sorry man
my best advice would be to just live your life then
all junkies hit a point where they want to clena up
most dont make it and relapse somthing over 90%
but some do
have faith
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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: 13.step]
#14242109 - 04/05/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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13.step said: Sucks man...I dunno what to say really, i think the best thing to do now is to just talk to him, be there for him, help him to not get into the usual shit addiction gets people into,it's all about damage-control now, he must want to quit and only he can get over it...until then I don't think that anybody can get him to really quit...
Not to be rude, but does he have any psychological problems? a lot of people medicate their problems away, I know I did, maybe there is an underlying cause to his addiction, or is heroin really that strong a drug?
he has always been really anti-social. And he has been known to have extreme anger issues, but both of those seemed to kinda go away around the time he started using. Wierd.. never really thought of that before. But as a child he had the worst temper ive ever seen and really didnt have any friends..
I think damage control is the right thin to do... idk man thinking about how hard he is gunna have it later in life makes me want to be super succesfull so i could at least get him a job later on if he decides to stay clean..
thanks hologram. Ill keep ma chin up
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Buy some ibogaine off the net and trip sit him, if he's gonna have a kid it's prolly a decent idea...
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realfuzzhead



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no he isnt gunna have a kid, my ex friend who he was cuaght with is gnna have a kid. And i fucking hate that guy right now, i want to rip out his entrails and hang him from a bridge, so im just gunna avoid him at all costs.
as far as my bro goes, ibogaine would actually be a good idea.
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Tough break Realfuzzhead. I know what its like to have a close family member struggle with addiction. You're right when you say the only person who can make a change is the addict. You gotta keep trying to get through to him, though. Even if it feels like you might as well be talking to a brick wall.
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Be really careful with the ibogaine, it's really seems to help a huge lot (for a couple of months at least) but there are also big risks associated with it, do your homework real good if you decide to go down that road
Also try to get him to a counselor or something like that, he sounds like he has some issues, or talk to him about it, maybe he'll open up and tell you what he is running away from, that would help him I imagine...
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didn't read the whole thread, but send his ass to jail. it'll be like rehab. hell, i could've quit cigs permanently after i stayed in jail for a month.
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take him to peru, cook him some ayahusaca? I've also heard about ibogaine being used to treat opiate addiction.
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eastcoastremedy said: take him to Peru, cook him some ayahuasca? I've also heard about ibogaine being used to treat opiate addiction.
Large dose of DMT might scare him straight.
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how did he get arrested shooting up in a car? was he being stupid and attracting attention?
Either way that is way too young to be dealing with this sort of thing already, he will probably have to endure probation that will send him to rehab
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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: misled]
#14244252 - 04/05/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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misled said:
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eastcoastremedy said: take him to Peru, cook him some ayahuasca? I've also heard about ibogaine being used to treat opiate addiction.
Large dose of DMT might scare him straight.
i dont get when ppl say this
i got my mind blown on dmt then shot up on the come down
i kinda see wat ur getting at but even IF it does work it will probably be temporary
much like all the other sensations you think you'll be able to take with u after the trip but dont
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Re: fucking Heroin [Re: Apostle]
#14244375 - 04/05/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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All addicts need to truly bottom out before they can get clean.
Suboxone will give him some clarity, but won't fix the problem. it allows you to come to back reality, so I would look into that.
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Cannabischarlie said: how did he get arrested shooting up in a car? was he being stupid and attracting attention?
Either way that is way too young to be dealing with this sort of thing already, he will probably have to endure probation that will send him to rehab
i guess if you do it enough times one time things line up you get caught. He's only 16 so he doesnt have a pad to do it at.
he actually looks really good today, not in his bed sick or all moody or anything. Bought him an edible from the dispensary today, i know alot of H addicts who did so much H they began to not like the THC high at all. Thats terrible because once your at that point, you dont even have the luxury or still having some sort of intoxicant to smoke pleasurably. Its either alcohol, other drugs or sobriety. im glad he still likes weed
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Cannabischarlie said: how did he get arrested shooting up in a car? was he being stupid and attracting attention?
Either way that is way too young to be dealing with this sort of thing already, he will probably have to endure probation that will send him to rehab
i guess if you do it enough times one time things line up you get caught. He's only 16 so he doesnt have a pad to do it at.
It just seems odd that he would just encounter the police while thats happening. It is pretty inconspicuous is it not?
Your story has kind of a lot of vagueness in it, just trying to help
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? vague as seems appropriate on a forum, theyhad just got done shooting up in his friends car and got pulled over. NOticed they were both fucked up and found the rig and what not
brother seems to be detoxing fine and whatnot
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That's some serious stuff. I might sound a bit rude but a shock treatment is the best option IMHO.
Just close him somewhere he can't run away for a week. Feed him as he needs but most important nurture him and show you're really worried about his condition. Otherwise you'll be fooling him and yourself.
There's no "magic" drug for heroin addicts. Consuming heroin is a culture in itself and must be purged first. Then you can use some substance people are referring and show him the way. But first, do the hard cleansing. Really, it's the only way.
Btw, he might be lying when he says he's not consuming. Be aware of that.
Cheers, Maia
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