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an erowid experience caught my eye
    #14238579 - 04/04/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here's the story. I thought the first part of the story was really interesting.. Waking up after blacking out, coming down off four hits of acid. I tried to imagine myself in that state of mind; not sure if I was alive or dead; not sure if I was awake or asleep. But his second experience is what grabbed my attention. Several months later, he is smoking some pot and has an incident of psychosis, or a maybe a terrifying flashback. It kind of hit me that maybe this guy was inexperienced, and he mishandled his first trip by getting hammered. The dude makes it sound like his flashback has traumatized him..

I'm about to drop acid for the first time in a few days and I'm excited. I've got a few questions though. Has anyone had a significantly dreamlike or surreal experience that stands out? Anybody ever had an incident like his flashback? Was it frightening or fun? Also, what kind of level will weed take you to after dropping a couple hits? And, how does LSD change you? If you have a good answer to any question, I'd be thankful.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye *DELETED* [Re: smokin427]
    #14238600 - 04/04/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: smokin427]
    #14238620 - 04/04/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

about twice a month (at the max) things will have that acid "glimmer" look to it and I will get very giggily at the smallest things.  This happens for like ten minutes maybe?  This is the closest thing to what I would call an "acid flashback".


Weed will launch you exactly to the next level IMHO.  It intensifies the trip, visually and mentally, and frankly I wouldn't recommend doing that solo.  However if you're with your friends, load up the bong.


Acid reacts wildly between many different people.  Answering the question, how does LSD change you? , is futile.  It can range from total start-of-a-new-life experience or just a day at the carnival.  It's all about how you preceive the experience.


What will be your dose?  Do these hits of yours have any sort of reputation?


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye *DELETED* [Re: justin340]
    #14238622 - 04/04/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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  FINE YOU IMBECILE; SUFFER!! IT IS YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE HURTING. NOTHING IS DETERRING YOU FROM ATTAINING THAT OF WHICH YOU INHERENTLY CRAVE. YOU HAVE LET THEM TAKE OVER YOUR MIND, YOU ARE NO LONGER IN CONTROL, YOU NEVER WERE.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: pescadorabioso]
    #14238673 - 04/04/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I dunno about this whole "Flashback" stuff.. some people claim to get it, while I feel as if I had psychedelic states of mind before I'd ever tried any illicit drug... so to me, it feels like a return home.  Certainly no psychotic episode that bothers me or anything like that.  Perhaps existential crisises from time to time, but I fkn love that shit.

It's all so subjective.....


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: smokin427]
    #14238690 - 04/04/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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smokin427 said:
I'm about to drop acid for the first time in a few days and I'm excited. I've got a few questions though. Has anyone had a significantly dreamlike or surreal experience that stands out? Anybody ever had an incident like his flashback? Was it frightening or fun? Also, what kind of level will weed take you to after dropping a couple hits? And, how does LSD change you? If you have a good answer to any question, I'd be thankful.




Didn't read the story but I'll try to answer a few of your questions. The whole trip could be considered dreamlike and surreal especially during the peak. Never have had a "flashback", though I have had some HPPD type things like seeing subtle swirly things and fuzziness in the dark a few days after a trip. Acid is both frightening and fun, but always worth it and usually more fun than frightening. Weed seems to intensify the visual affects a great deal and is very pleasant on acid, though it might dull the analytical deep thinking part for me. Some of these questions are very subjective, acid affects everyone differently. As for how it has changed me, I would say it's probably made me isolate myself from people a bit more and be more introspective and also have a deeper appreciation and interest in certain things. Sometimes days after a trip I feel noticeably happier and more confident.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: justin340]
    #14238835 - 04/04/11 09:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ha, if you have that real shit, then send me the instructions.

And Oulja, I like your response; there's some good info in there. I'm still confused on where weed could take me, so I guess I'll have to find out.. ha! Any of you get wierded out by inexperienced friends when you're trippin out?


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: smokin427]
    #14238902 - 04/04/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I've been weirded out by a tripping friend before, annoyed is a more appropriate word however. He wouldn't stop pacing back and forth acting franticly like something was deeply bothering him and he wouldn't say what and just kept ranting about his feet being cold. Meanwhile I was staring up at the stars contemplating the universe and he kept distracting me and making me feel weird. This was on shrooms btw.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: smokin427]
    #14238965 - 04/04/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Ha, if you have that real shit, then send me the instructions.

And Oulja, I like your response; there's some good info in there. I'm still confused on where weed could take me, so I guess I'll have to find out.. ha! Any of you get wierded out by inexperienced friends when you're trippin out?



Honestly, I would just save the weed until the comedown.

If you felt like you didn't take enough, a bongload will put you where you want to be :smile:  It's like taking an extra hit.  Or if you are where you want to be, and you start coming down, a good hit will put you back into the peak.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: iamnotadream]
    #14239476 - 04/04/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Have you tripped on anything before?


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14239633 - 04/05/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, I've had more than my fair share of experiences.

Or were you referring to OP?


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: iamnotadream]
    #14239653 - 04/05/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yes, I've had more than my fair share of experiences.

Or were you referring to OP?




Ha! I was referring to OP.  If he has done any other psychs then he will have a flavor of what he is in for.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14240017 - 04/05/11 02:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Weed definitely kicks it up a notch. You can go from hardly feeling anything to 'holy shit' in a couple minutes if you smoke some weed.

Id say avoid it if you get anxious when you smoke weed. But honestly...Most people love to smoke weed while they are tripping. Smoke a lot less than you usually would. You will seem to be able to take much bigger hits and you may find yourself a little too high for comfort if you smoke too much.

I usually just wait until the effects are subsiding to smoke any pot. And even then, usually after smoking pot, things get more intense than before.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: drr]
    #14240054 - 04/05/11 02:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Would almost call bullshit on that erowid story.

That weed must have been laced.

Or some kind of anti-acid ad.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: HeiligBoomerz]
    #14240355 - 04/05/11 06:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I've tried a few thingss... ha. I smoked after taking 2ce once and it fucked me up! I'll try a hit or two after the peak to see how I like it. I don't mind some radical visuals, I'm just not sure I'll be in the mood for a huge mindfuck. Or is it more relaxing..? I know acid is supposed to be pretty analytical, so will weed blast me off or chill things out?


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: smokin427]
    #14240466 - 04/05/11 06:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeah, I've tried a few thingss... ha. I smoked after taking 2ce once and it fucked me up! I'll try a hit or two after the peak to see how I like it. I don't mind some radical visuals, I'm just not sure I'll be in the mood for a huge mindfuck. Or is it more relaxing..? I know acid is supposed to be pretty analytical, so will weed blast me off or chill things out?




I always avoid weed on the peak of mushrooms or LSD. (2C-x chemicals are different - their headspace is very clear so weed makes it more psychedelic). It tends to really cloud the trip, making it "fuzzy". Instead when I start coming down I take some giant hits and get right back up there, sometimes even higher than I was at the peak.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: smokin427]
    #14240855 - 04/05/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Weed is like a burst of nos for your trip. It can really intensify your visuals, which can be a lot of fun. As for flashbacks... well it seems like different people have different ideas of what constitutes a "flashback". Experiencing full-on flashbacks like a war veteran with PTSD where you're so engulfed in the memory that you're totally disconnected from reality is VERY unlikely to happen from psychedelic use.

Sometimes in the weeks to months after a good trip, I will have moments of nostalgia for the trip where I feel a mild body high and sometimes get slight visuals - like seeing the wall breathing if I stare at it. It doesn't interfere with my life at all, and I actually really appreciate it.

I also get fantastic afterglows after a good trip. For at least a few weeks after the experience I will usually appreciate little details a lot more, and feel more at peace. I find that I become more effective at living my life to the fullest after a good trip.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14242430 - 04/05/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Something to keep in mind is that at the end of that erowid report, the author says that he is a psychiatric patient, and had been told not to smoke marijuana or do drugs. A lot of people say that smoking weed is different for them after doing psychedelics, and I'm sure the fact that the author of that report was already a psychiatric patient, plus the LSD, AND smoking what sounds like a lot of pot all in one sitting certainly has a lot to do with what he experienced.

I wouldn't be too worried about flashbacks. There might be lingering effects for a bit, depending on the drug. Flashbacks like what the author experienced seem rare, and when they happen, they seem to happen to people who probably shouldn't have dosed.


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: pyl91]
    #14246210 - 04/06/11 05:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the help!


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Re: an erowid experience caught my eye [Re: smokin427]
    #14248238 - 04/06/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

After my first experience with mimosa and rue, I had a several month period of nightly flashbacks triggered by cannabis.

This trip was a real eye-opener. It was a journey into the amazonian shamanic underworld, and I was unprepared and deeply frightened by my experience. It caused some kind of trauma which took many months (years even) to integrate. I am quite thankful for it however....

The flashbacks were most often triggered by cannabis, but occasionally would surface on their own. They usually lasted 20 minutes to an hour, and consisted of intense '3rd-eye' style visuals. Not quite open-eyed, but internal.

These would be visions/memories of the experience I had, and usually helped to illustrate a spiritual cosmology incorporating the realms I had now visited first-hand. They also related to the evolution of life, the purpose of DNA, ancient humans and their relationship to this spiritual world, and the now verified existence of discarnate entities.

Occasionally these flashbacks would include full-blown entity contact, though these episodes were more brief and were not as vivid as the entity contact on the mimosa.

They also would occasionally exhibit a 'schizophrenic' quality with light purple and magenta hues at the borders of everything and a quality of unexplainable significance to seemingly meaningless things.

This kind of crap never really went away, but I was eventually able to build my ego around my new style of awareness.


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