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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: ShockValue]
    #14239485 - 04/04/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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All the wars end when we ALL decide they do.




And see, there it is.  You just typed it.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14239489 - 04/04/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You act like I want to be right, I don't want to be right but I believe I am and that's unfortunate. I'm all for world peace like you but it just simply won't happen.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: PreparationH]
    #14239497 - 04/04/11 11:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You act like I want to be right, I don't want to be right but I believe I am and that's unfortunate. I'm all for world peace like you but it just simply won't happen.





yet you claim to be "optimistic" how can this be so?? Change comes from within man :grin:


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: Blend]
    #14239507 - 04/04/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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deadendeavor said:
Quote:

ShockValue said:
All the wars end when we ALL decide they do.




And see, there it is.  You just typed it.




What's your point?


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14239512 - 04/04/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not saying it's impossible, only unlikely.
It all rests on becoming this unified, singular entity that can make a choice.  The problem here is we are not one unified organism.  We are at the complete other end of the spectrum.  As simple as it may seem to one of us, we do not understand ourselves as a whole -- You can not possibly know the way in which my brain operates.

So yes, it is theoretically possible for BILLIONS of people to make the same decision.  The odds just aren't there.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: Blend]
    #14239530 - 04/04/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

TL;DW


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: PreparationH]
    #14239531 - 04/04/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You act like I want to be right, I don't want to be right but I believe I am and that's unfortunate. I'm all for world peace like you but it just simply won't happen.



:awewtf:

It's this type of mindset that keeps world peace from happening

I really don't see any reason why we cannot rise above war, it's such a petty and illogical thing to be doing. This is evident to more and more people as time goes on, it's only a matter of time before we give up on it as a society.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: ShockValue]
    #14239533 - 04/04/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe you're confused, I am optimistic about this countries future, my future, my families future, job prospects and etc. 

Pessimistic about waking up one day and reading WORLD AT PEACE in the paper.  It doesn't bother me one bit though, the world has gotten smaller, it seems like a bigger deal but go back years and years and there was always pockets of shit storms on this planet, so?  There always will be. I don't care and that's not me closing my eyes and putting my fingers in my ears it's me realizing that factions will always butt heads and blood will be spilled.  Doesn't keep me awake at night.


Very optimistic though for the future of our human race.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: Blend]
    #14239536 - 04/04/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Billions of people laugh at jokes, eat breakfast, wonder if we're alone, and miss a dead loved one every day.

Every single one of these people are different humans that don't understand exactly how they work themselves, let alone other people.


Let's add "not kill or maim" to this list of things that billions of unique people do every day.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: Blend]
    #14239541 - 04/04/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not saying it's impossible, only unlikely.
It all rests on becoming this unified, singular entity that can make a choice.  The problem here is we are not one unified organism.  We are at the complete other end of the spectrum.  As simple as it may seem to one of us, we do not understand ourselves as a whole -- You can not possibly know the way in which my brain operates.

So yes, it is theoretically possible for BILLIONS of people to make the same decision.  The odds just aren't there.








It wont be easy but it can be done and is indeed taking place right now.
More people are coming to grips that this "reality" we live in is a joke.
We have been lead astray for so long many people just do not see the forest
for the tress until others bring it to their attention. Shit there was a time
when even I said this was all complete bullshit. It was a process that took years.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: ShockValue]
    #14239563 - 04/04/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Billions of people laugh at jokes, eat breakfast, wonder if we're alone, and miss a dead loved one every day.

Every single one of these people are different humans that don't understand exactly how they work themselves, let alone other people.


Let's add "not kill or maim" to this list of things that billions of unique people do every day.




I really like this type of thinking, and I consider myself at least hopeful that people, as a species, will learn someday not to kill one another.  I'm not in complete disagreement with you.  But is it not clear when someone posts something like this that there is Always an argument.  It literally does not fail. 
Surely you can't disregard the very thing that goes against your best hopes when it happens EVERY time?
I'm a hopeless romantic when it comes to world peace.  We're just so very, very far from it.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: Blend]
    #14239593 - 04/04/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't disagree that we have a LONG way to go. 

But the pitfall is to just keep doing the same stupid shit we've been doing for millenia just because "it's human nature". 

It's hard to judge, becuase I've only seen 37 years of our entire human history, but perhaps we ARE getting slowly less violent as the generations march forward.  Or perhaps we're getting worse.  More people, less resources to go around.  I can't say I get a good feel for what the general trend is.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: ShockValue]
    #14239608 - 04/05/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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But the pitfall is to just keep doing the same stupid shit we've been doing for millenia just because "it's human nature". 





Please define "the same stupid shit."


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: Blend]
    #14239614 - 04/05/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

he means war.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: ShockValue]
    #14239617 - 04/05/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well I've got no war.  I doubt you do either.  Or anyone reading this, for that matter.

If you're looking for a monster, you should study money.

edit: And the thread goes bored....


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: PreparationH]
    #14239671 - 04/05/11 12:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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All the allies had to do was just be at peace with themselves and Hitler would have just chilled out I suppose.




If they had been from the beginning they wouldn't have followed a policy of appeasement and Hitler would never have gained so much power.  They would have had less fear and just seen Hitler for what he was from the beginning.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: g00ru]
    #14239676 - 04/05/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

O yea, and what was that?


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: PreparationH]
    #14239690 - 04/05/11 12:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Free from the indoctrination, and therefore a completely different person.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: PreparationH]
    #14239702 - 04/05/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Somebody taking advantage of all the anger and humiliation Germany was feeling.  They fucked Germany really hard after WWI, naturally i suppose, but the consequence of that was a humiliated nation that was easily remobilized by a charismatic leader. I guess hindsight is 20/20, but I find that the more chill I am the more foresight i have so idk, I think a little peace could have helped the world out with WWII. I mean when I write it that way it's ridiculous...

I think you're imagining being all peaceful and docile and then just getting murdered.  But that's just an image you've got, in reality being peaceful makes you more safe.  If only more nations on this planet could start to figure that out.


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Re: MUST SEE - 2012 A Message of Hope. [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14239737 - 04/05/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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this video reminds me of this concept...

http://www.crystalinks.com/childrensic.html


The answeres on whats up are right here:lol:. We are at war with evolution. :makewar: And conscious levels play a big part in how were evolving. The star children :aliendance:  concept is still pretty cool idea if it wasnt so absurd it could be taken seriously.:awesomenod:


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