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impossible to break up rye berries after colonization
#14238065 - 04/04/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i just checked my jars after about 14 days of colonization. some of them were about 20% colonized so i shook them up. i shook up 3 or 4 jars and gave up after that. its damn near impossible. i shook it up to discover that the mycelium has grown into giant chunks of rye berries. most stayed about the same size, some of these giant chunks broke up after some rigorous shaking, but not much smaller. this creates air pockets (so to speak) between the glass and the rye berries/mycelium.
it seems to make more sense to just leave the jars alone and let colonize completely by themselves. is this weird? or do some of you do this? i dont see much downside to just letting the mycelium do its thing and not shake the jars. i would have to shake the jars hard enough to damage the mycelium to break up the big pieces, so shaking doesnt seem worth it.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14238078 - 04/04/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've seen people hit the jars against a roll of duct tape that is on the table.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14238085 - 04/04/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ajaxx said: i just checked my jars after about 14 days of colonization. some of them were about 20% colonized so i shook them up. i shook up 3 or 4 jars and gave up after that. its damn near impossible. i shook it up to discover that the mycelium has grown into giant chunks of rye berries. most stayed about the same size, some of these giant chunks broke up after some rigorous shaking, but not much smaller. this creates air pockets (so to speak) between the glass and the rye berries/mycelium.
it seems to make more sense to just leave the jars alone and let colonize completely by themselves. is this weird? or do some of you do this? i dont see much downside to just letting the mycelium do its thing and not shake the jars. i would have to shake the jars hard enough to damage the mycelium to break up the big pieces, so shaking doesnt seem worth it.
The mycelium can recover and colonize the rest of the jar faster than if it just had to grow from the initial innoc. points, so it is worth it time wise.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Psilocyentist]
#14238173 - 04/04/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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im in an apartment and have people living underneath and didnt want to slam them against the floor. the duct tape is a pretty good idea though. ill give it a try.
i have 2 half gallon jars of burmas, and i shook one last week sometime, and looked at it today, and 98% of the jar was covered in new mycelium. not the most rhizomorphic mycelium, but its lookin good. the other one that was just as far along, i didnt shake, and still looked pretty much the same. i shook that one too as much as i could, cause there was a giant chunk of rye berries stuck together with mycelium, so both are shook up, and im guessing theyll both be good enough to spawn to a little tub.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: lemonfuzz]
#14238263 - 04/04/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont hav ea tire handy lol
i have the videos, i cleaned the berries extremely well. none of them stuck together after sterilization. theyre still the same, its just the chunk of mycelium that wont break up. im gonna have to check out that part of the video again.
ill uce a roll of duct tape. that sounds like the best option.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14238289 - 04/04/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use an old car tire. Works well. You want to shake because (a) it doesn't hurt the myc at all (b) the colonization time to reach ALL the grains is faster. But don't wait 14 days, do it after 3-5 days or so.

Or you could just take em outside and bang em on somebodies car's tires... 
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: PrimalSoup]
#14238318 - 04/04/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: I use an old car tire. Works well. You want to shake because (a) it doesn't hurt the myc at all (b) the colonization time to reach ALL the grains is faster. But don't wait 14 days, do it after 3-5 days or so.

Or you could just take em outside and bang em on somebodies car's tires... 
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i was told to wait until 20% colonization before shaking. 3-5 days after inoculation seems waaay too early.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14238334 - 04/04/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If the colonized berries clump into hard, waxy-looking clumps after shaking (and don't recover, as well/quickly as expected), that can be an indication of bacterial contamination.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: andymc]
#14238386 - 04/04/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I beat mine on the back of the couch. I try yo make it sound like I'm driving some nails. whack whack whack. pause whac k whack whack whack
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14238477 - 04/04/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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how would that bacterial infection affect the grow?
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: andymc]
#14238482 - 04/04/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i was told to wait until 20% colonization before shaking. 3-5 days after inoculation seems waaay too early.
Hmmm. Mine must grow faster as that's about 30% for me. It's not critical anyway, but if you don't shake at all it seems there always some spot that gets left out.
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Uhm, sounds good, but it'd scare my cat.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: andymc]
#14238581 - 04/04/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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andymc said: If the colonized berries clump into hard, waxy-looking clumps after shaking (and don't recover, as well/quickly as expected), that can be an indication of bacterial contamination.
possibly due to the large half gallon jars. how long did you pc?
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Fungal growth]
#14238625 - 04/04/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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andymc said: If the colonized berries clump into hard, waxy-looking clumps after shaking (and don't recover, as well/quickly as expected), that can be an indication of bacterial contamination.
possibly due to the large half gallon jars. how long did you pc?
60 minutes. i dont see any signs of contamination from those or the 50 quart jars. the half gallon jars broke up better than the quart jars seemed to. there was one or two of the quart jars where it was a bit harder to break up. idk, i didnt spend too much time shakin them, i gave up. ill try tomorrow. i did everything as precise as possible, so i cant see it being a contamination.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14240190 - 04/05/11 03:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ajaxx said: how would that bacterial infection affect the grow?
That would be the end of that jar, in all likelihood.
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Fungal growth said: how long did you pc?
60 minutes.
That's not long enough even for a quart jar (90 mins). I do my quarts for 2 hours. Those half-gallon jars would need at least 2 hours, I'd think.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14240224 - 04/05/11 04:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Are you using gypsum with your rye? Not only does it add a nice nutritional boost but it also aids greatly in preventing clumping. Also of great importance to prevent sticky/clumpy grains is proper preparation of the grain. With several very thorough rinses/warm water agitation to flood out all the dirt and crap before the soak. I do the rinse/x6, soak w/ gypsum for 4-12, rolling boil for 10 minutes, drain and steam dry until done.
The grain should break up fairly easy .. the roll of duct tape works good if you don't have anything else. I only shake once, at about ~30 colonization
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: andymc]
#14240555 - 04/05/11 07:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ajaxx said: how would that bacterial infection affect the grow?
That would be the end of that jar, in all likelihood.
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Fungal growth said: how long did you pc?
60 minutes.
That's not long enough even for a quart jar (90 mins). I do my quarts for 2 hours. Those half-gallon jars would need at least 2 hours, I'd think.
ive seen other people on here say they do 60 minutes and they dont have any problems.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14240570 - 04/05/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Post a link to this claim, 60 mins for half gallon jars. I want to rate that poster appropriately.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Shroomism]
#14240586 - 04/05/11 07:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Are you using gypsum with your rye? Not only does it add a nice nutritional boost but it also aids greatly in preventing clumping. Also of great importance to prevent sticky/clumpy grains is proper preparation of the grain. With several very thorough rinses/warm water agitation to flood out all the dirt and crap before the soak. I do the rinse/x6, soak w/ gypsum for 4-12, rolling boil for 10 minutes, drain and steam dry until done.
The grain should break up fairly easy .. the roll of duct tape works good if you don't have anything else. I only shake once, at about ~30 colonization
i did not use gypsum when prepping the jars.
i think there might be a misunderstanding, im not sure. but the rye berries themselves are not stuck together. they break apart freely. but the colonized rye berries are more difficult to break up. ill shake up the jar and get the top colonized chunk flipped over and shake more and its a bit hard to get that broken up.
idk, im pretty sure theyre fine. i doubt theres any bacterial infection.
the 2 half gallon jars broke up pretty easily. i didnt fill them up. theyre both half full of rye berries. the one i shook last week is looking great and shows no signs of contamination. i shook the other one last night, so im a week or 2 im going to put together a small tub test tub.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Doc_T]
#14240595 - 04/05/11 07:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Post a link to this claim, 60 mins for half gallon jars. I want to rate that poster appropriately.
i dont bookmark everything i see... and i was talking about quart jars not half gallons. im not too worried about the half gallons goin to shit on me since i have 50 quart jars also going.
this shit is getting me frustrated. i see nothing wrong in the jars. its hard to get a chunk of mycelium colonized on rye berries broken up with its like a hockey puck stuck inside a jar. it breaks up, just not as easy as id like. this grow is in an apartment with people living upstairs and downstairs so im trying not to be so loud to piss them off. i just shook with my hands and they would break up, but then when idk how much to mix around. its kind of difficult to not have spaces between the sides of the glass and the rye berries.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14240603 - 04/05/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ajaxx said: i just checked my jars after about 14 days of colonization. some of them were about 20% colonized so i shook them up. i shook up 3 or 4 jars and gave up after that. its damn near impossible. i shook it up to discover that the mycelium has grown into giant chunks of rye berries. most stayed about the same size, some of these giant chunks broke up after some rigorous shaking, but not much smaller. this creates air pockets (so to speak) between the glass and the rye berries/mycelium.
it seems to make more sense to just leave the jars alone and let colonize completely by themselves. is this weird? or do some of you do this? i dont see much downside to just letting the mycelium do its thing and not shake the jars. i would have to shake the jars hard enough to damage the mycelium to break up the big pieces, so shaking doesnt seem worth it.
If nothing seem to work, use a spoon to scrape em out.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Luger0815]
#14240618 - 04/05/11 08:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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thats kind of a given. but im not to the point of scraping jars out to make tubs.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14240645 - 04/05/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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1. place jar on couch. 2. Whack with old sneaker. 3. ???? 4. Profit
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: The_Outsider]
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Luger0815]
#14240680 - 04/05/11 08:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Luger0815 said: The myc of Amazonian is that kind of dense that i can hardly break it, in order to spawn. I always use a spoon to scrape it out, and it works like a charm.
He's not trying to spawn them yet, just the shake at partial colonization.
As I said though, clumps that won't break up with shaking are kind of a bad sign (of bacteria) especially if the mycelium looks a bit waxy. You'll know in a few days if the mycelium doesn't seem to recover.
Shaking is worth doing IMO, if you used MS inoculation (and therefore didn't do an initial shake the way you would with LC).
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Luger0815]
#14240682 - 04/05/11 08:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Luger0815 said: The myc of Amazonian is that kind of dense that i can hardly break it, in order to spawn.
Also 'Amazonian' mycelium is the same density as all other cubensis mycelium.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: andymc]
#14240688 - 04/05/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh, okay...
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Luger0815]
#14240711 - 04/05/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ya i probably fucked up the whole grow again. ill check it later today.
that half gallon probably got raped by cobweb mold now that i think of it. AWESOME!!! there goes a shit load of time and money down the fuckin drain.
fuck growing mushrooms. weed is so much easier to grow.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14240741 - 04/05/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are pretty easy once you learn good technique and get the hang of it. Especially cubensis.
It's like anything that's worthwhile, I suppose. Takes some learning and practice.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: andymc]
#14240808 - 04/05/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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As others suggested adding gypsum to the soak water will coat the grains and they'll separate easier or grab yourself a fork and dig in
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: HybridprX]
#14240828 - 04/05/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i understand that breaking up the semi-colonized rye berries might initially seem impossible, but it is seriously worth the effort now rather than later.
inflated tires are great, but i have found that an inflated football held between the knees on a bed will get the job done. just have a few beers and start pounding the hell out of those jars. it will take some time and energy; however, i guarantee it will work
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14240908 - 04/05/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ajaxx said: i just shook with my hands
That is not the proper procedure, nor is 60 minutes at 15 psi the procedure, even for quart jars. Before you claim failure from reading bad advice from noobs, perform the correct procedures. This isn't rocket science. Everything you're doing wrong has been posted here so many times the rest of us have lost count. RR
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14241292 - 04/05/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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awesome. looks like my dumbass spent a shit load of money on rye berries and spores. now im going to have to redo a bunch of jars.
i did 60 minutes after reading someone saying thats what they do and have never had a problem, and have heard others say that 90 is overkill. i remember fucking jars up after PCing them for 90 minutes or so.
oh well, there goes a bunch of money and time. another expensive learning experience.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14241551 - 04/05/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive made terrible mistakes on my first grow because I figured I could stray away from the TEK a bit. I followed the TEK after that with results. Be calm smoke a bowl and start over. I found my rye berries at an organic food store, they had it in a bin for 99 cents a pound. Buy a syringe and make an agar/LC and some jars. Its all about the research.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14241663 - 04/05/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ajaxx said: awesome. looks like my dumbass spent a shit load of money on rye berries and spores. now im going to have to redo a bunch of jars.
i did 60 minutes after reading someone saying thats what they do and have never had a problem, and have heard others say that 90 is overkill. i remember fucking jars up after PCing them for 90 minutes or so.
oh well, there goes a bunch of money and time. another expensive learning experience.
I always like to check how the experts work, and then model my own activities after theirs. Stamets, for example, clearly writes in Chapter 15 of GGMM that "I sterilize quart jars for only 1 hour at 15 PSI, the 1/2 gallons for 90 minutes, the gallons for 2 hours, and the standard spawn bags for four hours." Stamets also notes that "as the spawn container is increased in volume, slightly less water is added proportionately."
The great advice available on this site and in books and videos makes growing mushrooms easier than ever, but nothing teaches like experience. So what feels like failure and wastage now is just paying your dues and will benefit you in the end. But if you're getting frustrated with it, then maybe you're growing mushrooms for the wrong reasons. Growing mushrooms is a never-ending adventure in learning, and of interacting with strange fungal life forms, and it's this process (not the eventual yields) that makes it so enjoyable (at least for me).
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Puma]
#14241729 - 04/05/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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dont be so negative bro, as was said once you get the basics down its really pretty easy. battling contams is a constant in this hobby. theyre everywhere.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Fungal growth]
#14241772 - 04/05/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Growing mushrooms is a never-ending adventure in learning, and of interacting with strange fungal life forms, and it's this process (not the eventual yields) that makes it so enjoyable (at least for me).
Yeah. And I've never once seen mycelium covered with scale, which used to piss me off no end when I grew weed. Much easier process once the basics sink in. And no hangover either.  
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: PrimalSoup]
#14242939 - 04/05/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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sorry to be so negative here. ive had a few shitty days.
the grow isnt going on at my house, so i cant just go check stuff when i want to.
so anyway, i went to the grow house today and checked the jars. the neighbor underneath the apartment was gone, so i just slammed the jars on the floor. everything broke up and mixed together quite well.
the half gallon mason jars both look great. definitely not cobweb mold. im guessin in another week to 2 ill be putting them all in tubs. so, i freaked out over nothing. my bad everyone. ive had a shitty couple of days.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14243702 - 04/05/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ajaxx said: sorry to be so negative here. ive had a few shitty days.
the grow isnt going on at my house, so i cant just go check stuff when i want to.
so anyway, i went to the grow house today and checked the jars. the neighbor underneath the apartment was gone, so i just slammed the jars on the floor. everything broke up and mixed together quite well.
the half gallon mason jars both look great. definitely not cobweb mold. im guessin in another week to 2 ill be putting them all in tubs. so, i freaked out over nothing. my bad everyone. ive had a shitty couple of days.
If you're worried about the neighbor downstairs, you can really just use anything that's soft on the outside but hard behind it... for example, I've been using the armrest for my couch, which is wooden with fabric and cushioning over it, and it breaks up the mycelium pretty well
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Onox]
#14246147 - 04/06/11 05:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use my thigh. For like 1 jar or 2. I'd find something with fewer pain receptors if I were going to be doing a bunch of jars.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: andymc]
#14246397 - 04/06/11 08:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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well i dont have to worry about that anymore. shaking is taken care of. now im waiting for full colonization before spawning to tubs.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14246503 - 04/06/11 08:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol, just remember when shaking and banging that these are GLASS jars. i've broken 2 on the arm of the couch and 1 of a cheap knockoff regular mouth on the palm of my hand. did'nt get cut TOO bad, i mean definately not as bad as it could have been. if its too hard to break up i'm not above just breaking it up with a gloved hand when i spawn.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14247316 - 04/06/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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well i dont have to worry about that anymore. shaking is taken care of. now im waiting for full colonization before spawning to tubs.

All this and no
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: PrimalSoup]
#14247322 - 04/06/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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50 quarts of golden teachers

 
taken yesterday

before shaking:

after shaking:
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#14247394 - 04/06/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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's good.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: PrimalSoup]
#14249394 - 04/06/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, at a quick look, they all look good to me.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: PrimalSoup]
#15811613 - 02/15/12 12:52 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've found another thing that works well for this. (don't have an old tire handy.) But, one of those foam rollers they use to do deep trigger point work works well. I found one at a local "factory seconds & returns" store with the yoga, pilates, and other workout equipment. 6" diameter, 2 foot long foam roller on the floor does the trick in 3 to 5 wacks of the jar. Works like a charm.
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Re: impossible to break up rye berries after colonization [Re: Ajaxx]
#28118841 - 12/31/22 02:03 PM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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Yo I tried a spoon to scoop it but it broke the spoon so I was like shit I just reached in there and dug my fingers in it lol I had gloves and isop spray hope it's ok lol fun watching this stuff next time I'ma get a dead blow hammer smack it or sumthin
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