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XUL
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This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!!
#14236256 - 04/04/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I feel like such a dumbass trying to get into the Navy. I feel like im getting jacked around like a damn fool. I am absolutely clueless and it seems that it may even fuck me over in the long run...
In case you dont know whats going on, I will give you a quick fill in.
I have been found guilty of only one charge in my entire life. Possession of marijuana. I served ARD and the charge was expunged. Supposedly expungment means I never have to tell anybody and the records of my arrest are destroyed.
Well here I go research on the internet a little more and I read that people make it all the way to their ship out dates or even bootcamp and then they are thrown out for fraudulent enlistments. Some of them even got dishonorable discharges! WTF.
I recently went through the medical part of meps and I am waiting on an eye waiver. They took my finger prints and the only thing left to do is pick a job and swear in. Considering I did NOT swear in yet, has my FBI background check started yet? This process is fucking with my sanity. How can my lawyer tell me I never have to say anything yet the military may ruin my life for it. The meps center NEVER said anything about expunged charges!? Maybe they should bring that up???
Son of a bitch...
Edited by XUL (04/04/11 01:55 PM)
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: XUL]
#14236287 - 04/04/11 01:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is dealing with the government ever cut-and-dry? Sounds like a screwed up situation.
Good luck.
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: 4runner] 3
#14236303 - 04/04/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pretty simple solution - don't join the military. It's super fucked.
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: pwnasaurus]
#14236355 - 04/04/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So have you served in the U.S. Military?
I have 2 friend that enlisted into the air force and have made a career out of it. They seem pretty happy well educated and have been all over the world.
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: XUL]
#14236356 - 04/04/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said: Pretty simple solution - don't join the military. It's super fucked.
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: 4runner]
#14236365 - 04/04/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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anunnakian said: So have you served in the U.S. Military?
I have 2 friend that enlisted into the air force and have made a career out of it. They seem pretty happy well educated and have been all over the world.
Simply on the principle of what the military does I would never even entertain the idea of joining.
If people weren't such fucking morons we wouldn't need military.
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XUL
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: pwnasaurus]
#14236410 - 04/04/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said:
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anunnakian said: So have you served in the U.S. Military?
I have 2 friend that enlisted into the air force and have made a career out of it. They seem pretty happy well educated and have been all over the world.
Simply on the principle of what the military does I would never even entertain the idea of joining.
If people weren't such fucking morons we wouldn't need military.
If your talking about morals or whatever then fuck that. Its life and money is money. Its that simple.
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: pwnasaurus]
#14236413 - 04/04/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i would if they still offered 20k signing bonus (back in the day which would be close to 50k with todays standard of living)
10k to sign and 15k for the first 4 years is honestly pitiful
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: the human abstract]
#14236451 - 04/04/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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talk to a recruiter man there gods
i had a similar situation
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: XUL]
#14236593 - 04/04/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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XUL said:
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pwnasaurus said:
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anunnakian said: So have you served in the U.S. Military?
I have 2 friend that enlisted into the air force and have made a career out of it. They seem pretty happy well educated and have been all over the world.
Simply on the principle of what the military does I would never even entertain the idea of joining.
If people weren't such fucking morons we wouldn't need military.
If your talking about morals or whatever then fuck that. Its life and money is money. Its that simple.

                                                       
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: XUL]
#14237345 - 04/04/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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No wonder the military/police are so fucked up. Poeple like XUL join.
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If your talking about morals or whatever then fuck that. Its life and money is money. Its that simple.
That's all kinds of evil man.
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: Shins]
#14238812 - 04/04/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hmm the charge is expunged from your public record not from any gov. entities, f b i, local cops, state agencies, etc. i,d avoid the armed forces like the black plague...
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: 5150]
#14238834 - 04/04/11 09:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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dude ya need to relax.
if its meant to be well, youll be on a boat in no time
if not im sure teh army will take ya
your getting your blood pressure up over nothing bro.. youve gone this far quit stressin over it. it wont do any good
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: rackem]
#14238883 - 04/04/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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juset becombe a botinist and find a new chemical to get high off of give me 5 percent of profit for coming up with idea.
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: XUL]
#14238918 - 04/04/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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XUL said: I feel like such a dumbass trying to get into the Navy. I feel like im getting jacked around like a damn fool. I am absolutely clueless and it seems that it may even fuck me over in the long run...
In case you dont know whats going on, I will give you a quick fill in.
I have been found guilty of only one charge in my entire life. Possession of marijuana. I served ARD and the charge was expunged. Supposedly expungment means I never have to tell anybody and the records of my arrest are destroyed.
Well here I go research on the internet a little more and I read that people make it all the way to their ship out dates or even bootcamp and then they are thrown out for fraudulent enlistments. Some of them even got dishonorable discharges! WTF.
I recently went through the medical part of meps and I am waiting on an eye waiver. They took my finger prints and the only thing left to do is pick a job and swear in. Considering I did NOT swear in yet, has my FBI background check started yet? This process is fucking with my sanity. How can my lawyer tell me I never have to say anything yet the military may ruin my life for it. The meps center NEVER said anything about expunged charges!? Maybe they should bring that up???
Son of a bitch...
you'll be FINE dude. no one's gonna care about that enough to do anything one way or the other...
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Re: This military shit is driving me FUCKING insane!!!!! [Re: owls]
#14238968 - 04/04/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Don't see why you had to lie about that during MEPS in the first place. a little bud would have only prevented you from getting a higher clearance..NOT from actually signing up.
Who knows when exactly the background check kicks in...all records even ones that are "destroyed" can be found, it just depends on how hard one will look.
Put it this way..hundreds of people enlist in the armed forces at a time..do you really think the FBI will go through EVERY single one with a fine tooth comb to find a mild charge like that? nope.
they are mostly checking to make sure you are not a felon or have any warrants or stupid shit like that..you will be FINE. no worries buddy.
also glad to hear you are thinking of serving! be sure to pick some good jobs and score well on the ASVAB
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