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OfflineSprezzatura
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That's woman's work
    #14236191 - 04/04/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How come people get offended when I say that? 

My girlfriend of almost 5 years moved in with me, she does the dishes, cleaning and laundry and does most of the cooking (I like cooking so I Do some) and I do the laborious jobs that require more physical strength. 

There's men work and women work... it's not to say no woman could do the job that a man does, and that men can't do the job that women do, it's just called PRACTICALITY in a home where both a male and female are living and are in a relationship.

My girl is cool with it, I just don't get why other people find this wrong or offensive, it boggles my mind. 

I do all the dangerous repairs to the house (rerouting gas lines, electrical work etc.), the snow shoveling, the grass cutting, the roof repairs, the bathroom repairs etc.  all the yard work and shit and if someone breaks in the house, I'm the one that's going to shoot the person.... it seems fair to me that she does the less physically demanding work.

I think it all started when men started calling repair men to do work instead of doing it themselves... every time you dial 1-800-repairman your dick is symbolically getting punier.


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14236202 - 04/04/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think it started when girls started burning their bras.

If a man could also do the work, it's not "woman's work."
If a woman could also do the work, it's not "man's work."


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OfflineSprezzatura
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Re: That's woman's work [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14236223 - 04/04/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
I think it started when girls started burning their bras.

If a man could also do the work, it's not "woman's work."
If a woman could also do the work, it's not "man's work."




Nah, it's like kids having to clean their rooms, yeah, the parents could do it, but it's their responsibility... just like dishes are the responsibility of women, and labor jobs are the responsibility of men.


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14236247 - 04/04/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

there's some merit to that. growing up with a single mom, i ended up doing most of the labor intensive tasks (and still do when i'm home) with my brother. some things are just better suited for men.

however, there are plenty of laborious tasks that women are also perfectly capable of doing. your attitude is highly biased. it's all about teamwork, on both types of work. help her do the dishes sometimes, don't EXPECT her to do them, and she'll help you sometimes on the repair projects.


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14236253 - 04/04/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Sprezzatura said:

I think it all started when men started calling repair men to do work instead of doing it themselves... every time you dial 1-800-repairman your dick is symbolically getting punier.




Truer words have never been spoken.  The only time i've ever said something was "womanswork", was when i was being sarcastic or just trying to mess with somebody. 
Don't get me wrong here i agree with almost everything you said above man.  Women just realize that the work they do is generally more time consuming; work that men do is generally quicker but more physically demanding.  I've always found that time consuming work is the more aggravating.


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14236293 - 04/04/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think because in (supposedly) more modern, progressive times people try not to stereotype, or label people based on gender, ethnicity, race, etc.  But I'm sure you know this and trying to engage debate.


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: badchad]
    #14236310 - 04/04/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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badchad said:
I think because in (supposedly) more modern, progressive times people try not to stereotype, or label people based on gender, ethnicity, race, etc.  But I'm sure you know this and trying to engage debate.




Precisely.

That's like saying...

There's white person work and there's black person work.
White people work on our tans.
Black people pick our fuckin' cotton.

What? It makes sense to me.

Anyway, this whole thread is :trolldance:.


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14236329 - 04/04/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's generally only offensive when you use the term in a derogatory fashion.  As if the task is beneath you, and that you refuse to do it if there is a woman who can do it.

How often do you have to reroute gas lines?  If you're doing your "man's work" once ever 4 years, you should be doing some "woman's work" as well.  And in this case, it's just work.

Obviously if you're mowing the lawn and shoveling snow, and are spending roughly the same amount of your time doing the work, then I feel it's completely fair.  But if you have someone to cut your grass, then you should be doing the dishes while she does the laundry.  That's assuming you both work.


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: BothHands]
    #14236358 - 04/04/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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BothHands said:
It's generally only offensive when you use the term in a derogatory fashion.  As if the task is beneath you, and that you refuse to do it if there is a woman who can do it.

How often do you have to reroute gas lines?  If you're doing your "man's work" once ever 4 years, you should be doing some "woman's work" as well.  And in this case, it's just work.

Obviously if you're mowing the lawn and shoveling snow, and are spending roughly the same amount of your time doing the work, then I feel it's completely fair.  But if you have someone to cut your grass, then you should be doing the dishes while she does the laundry.  That's assuming you both work.



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Re: That's woman's work [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14236424 - 04/04/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: That's woman's work [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #14236652 - 04/04/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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BothHands said:
It's generally only offensive when you use the term in a derogatory fashion.  As if the task is beneath you, and that you refuse to do it if there is a woman who can do it.

How often do you have to reroute gas lines?  If you're doing your "man's work" once ever 4 years, you should be doing some "woman's work" as well.  And in this case, it's just work.

Obviously if you're mowing the lawn and shoveling snow, and are spending roughly the same amount of your time doing the work, then I feel it's completely fair.  But if you have someone to cut your grass, then you should be doing the dishes while she does the laundry.  That's assuming you both work.



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Re: That's woman's work [Re: BothHands]
    #14239139 - 04/04/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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BothHands said:
It's generally only offensive when you use the term in a derogatory fashion.  As if the task is beneath you, and that you refuse to do it if there is a woman who can do it.

How often do you have to reroute gas lines?  If you're doing your "man's work" once ever 4 years, you should be doing some "woman's work" as well.  And in this case, it's just work.

Obviously if you're mowing the lawn and shoveling snow, and are spending roughly the same amount of your time doing the work, then I feel it's completely fair.  But if you have someone to cut your grass, then you should be doing the dishes while she does the laundry.  That's assuming you both work.




yeah, haha, I don't reroute gas lines very often, but it's just an example of what type of jobs I do when they come up.  I am a work horse, however, and I stay rather busy.  Aside from repairs on the house and normal tasks I do, I also do cool things per request... for example, she asked me to build a picnic table for her Dad and offered to pay for the materials and labor... of course, I refused to take money for labor, she bought the materials, and I built it for her.

When I say "That's women's work", it is in a humorous context, but people still get offended because even with the humor involved, I still believe it to be true. 

I might not do work every day, but the work I do, I feel, evens out the responsibilities, and at the risk of sounding like a misogynist asshole, I think in my case specifically, the woman in this equation has the better end of the deal considering I work more hours at my day job and I'm old fashioned and I pay for everything. :smile:

What pisses me off more than neo-feminism, for the record, is the fact that  a large portion of Men these days and young guys have gotten soft and have neglected or disdained the concept of doing hard work and being a man, rejecting the very nature of themselves.


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14239164 - 04/04/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

women are so hypocritical when it comes to such things.

want to be treated equally....only in certain circumstances.

wtf bitches? beggers cant be choosers


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14239176 - 04/04/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Sprezzatura said:
When I say "That's women's work", it is in a humorous context, but people still get offended because even with the humor involved, I still believe it to be true.




I'm saying this in a humorous context:  You're sexist.


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Re: That's woman's work [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14239215 - 04/04/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Sprezzatura said:
Quote:

BothHands said:
It's generally only offensive when you use the term in a derogatory fashion.  As if the task is beneath you, and that you refuse to do it if there is a woman who can do it.

How often do you have to reroute gas lines?  If you're doing your "man's work" once ever 4 years, you should be doing some "woman's work" as well.  And in this case, it's just work.

Obviously if you're mowing the lawn and shoveling snow, and are spending roughly the same amount of your time doing the work, then I feel it's completely fair.  But if you have someone to cut your grass, then you should be doing the dishes while she does the laundry.  That's assuming you both work.




yeah, haha, I don't reroute gas lines very often, but it's just an example of what type of jobs I do when they come up.  I am a work horse, however, and I stay rather busy.  Aside from repairs on the house and normal tasks I do, I also do cool things per request... for example, she asked me to build a picnic table for her Dad and offered to pay for the materials and labor... of course, I refused to take money for labor, she bought the materials, and I built it for her.

When I say "That's women's work", it is in a humorous context, but people still get offended because even with the humor involved, I still believe it to be true. 

I might not do work every day, but the work I do, I feel, evens out the responsibilities, and at the risk of sounding like a misogynist asshole, I think in my case specifically, the woman in this equation has the better end of the deal considering I work more hours at my day job and I'm old fashioned and I pay for everything. :smile:

What pisses me off more than neo-feminism, for the record, is the fact that  a large portion of Men these days and young guys have gotten soft and have neglected or disdained the concept of doing hard work and being a man, rejecting the very nature of themselves.




I don't think it's so much that, as society has softened. Nowadays people spend money like it's going out of style...i mean, look at how many people pay to get their oil changed when it is an insanely easy task. It's become commonplace to pay for services that in the past you would have done yourself. I think we also have more wealthy people now, though I'm not positive of that, so people can pay for things to be done.

It's like one of my friends said...she makes a ton of money and works hard as hell, she's the kind of girl that wouldn't mind changing her oil, but when I asked her why she does since it's so easy she said "I work hard enough that I can pay someone else to do that. I have better things to do with my time."


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