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how do i know when to pick them?(More pics, Update)
    #14236050 - 04/04/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

some of the gills of my shrooms are brown, and some are white. some caps are opened up and flushed
while others have not not



for instance the far back left corner, there is a cap that is bent upwards, and brown gills.

i'm not sure of the strain because my friend gave me one colonized jar, and a random syringe.
so i wouldn't be sure of the genetics(as to how much higher/further they will grow), unless someone could provide some insight?


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14236076 - 04/04/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pick them as they mature.

It's best to pick right as the veil begins to tear unless you're making prints. In that case, you should wait for the veil to tear completely and the cap to flatten out a bit more.


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: Boozie]
    #14236082 - 04/04/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

si si si.. i pick them right when the veil tears.. although, sometimes, i let the cap expand all the way out, just to have a nice pretty one.. but right when the veil tears, you are good to go..

pull out with a twisting motion.. they should come out fairly easy


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14236084 - 04/04/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pick when the veil tears, if you want prints wait until the caps flatens some(like the ones in the back corner).
It looks like your tub could use more air and better light.
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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: CH HELL]
    #14236099 - 04/04/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Pick when the veil tears, if you want prints wait until the caps flatens some(like the ones in the back corner).
It looks like your tub could use more air and better light.
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this, or i've also seen tub's fruit that way from temps being a bit high...


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: biologys]
    #14236137 - 04/04/11 01:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pick them when the veil tears...
I personally also pick them whenever the shrooms seem to come off easy


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: CH HELL]
    #14236715 - 04/04/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Pick when the veil tears, if you want prints wait until the caps flatens some(like the ones in the back corner).
It looks like your tub could use more air and better light.
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thank you everyone.
a veil tear is pretty much this, http://www.mushroomexpert.com/images/glossary_universal_veil.jpg ?

yeah i just changed my setup, i put my tub in the insulation room. there is a draft coming from an open vent throughout the insulation, seems plausible thus far. am i right?



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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14236887 - 04/04/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is right before the veils are about to tear...



I try to pick at or around this time, maybe wait a few hours longer. Unless i'm making prints of course.


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: Boozie]
    #14236946 - 04/04/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ahh okay gotcha. i guess i'll wait about 5 days or so, before i see better results with my new setup.
i've got a damn while till i have to pull my shrooms out.
i'm hoping larger fruits, though! :mushroom2:

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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14236990 - 04/04/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well you can always let them grow out fully, they will grow quite a bit larger. But keep in mind that after the veil tears and they begin to sporulate, they are just gaining water weight for the most part, and not much more of the magic alkaloids.

You also risk covering your FC (and other mushrooms) in purple-y spores, plus they can look a little deformed after the cap has completely expanded.


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: Boozie]
    #14237062 - 04/04/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well you can always let them grow out fully, they will grow quite a bit larger. But keep in mind that after the veil tears and they begin to sporulate, they are just gaining water weight for the most part, and not much more of the magic alkaloids.

You also risk covering your FC (and other mushrooms) in purple-y spores, plus they can look a little deformed after the cap has completely expanded.




nice , great information to know. thank you!

i'll see where my harvest is at in about 4-5 days, but i can already foresee me picking some fruits earlier than that. probably?
i realize that i won't be picking all of my fruits at the same time, due to my premature pins...


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14237220 - 04/04/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pick the ones that are ready and leave the rest to mature.
Make prints out of the ones that are flattend, Quickly while they still have spores left in them.


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: mabachko]
    #14242635 - 04/05/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

here is an update on my tub..




i also picked a bunch yesterday.



should i keep on picking them out? some of them are attached to pins, and some fruits are clusters of 4-6 lol..


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14242662 - 04/05/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If the 1st 2 pics are what is left then u should keep picking


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: mabachko]
    #14242733 - 04/05/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If the 1st 2 pics are what is left then u should keep picking




in the second pic, do you believe those big clusters should be plucked? or wait a wee bit more?

also what is a plausible idea to do; about picking the shrooms on the side of the tub? they are big fruits :shrug:


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14242766 - 04/05/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pick Pick Pick,,,Pick all that you can get your hands on that are close to maturity. Pull on the ones that are along the side.
So you lose a few pins when plucking clusters.
There will be other flushes


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: mabachko]
    #14242841 - 04/05/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

In my opinion.

When you see a few open caps in the tub, thats when you pick them all.

Then proceed to the second flush. Otherwise you will constantly wait cause there will always be a few that are coming along.

Its better to pick them all, dunk then go to second flush right away then to pick a few everyday

P.S. Everything in your tub is ready to be picked right away.


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: Patlal]
    #14242931 - 04/05/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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In my opinion.

When you see a few open caps in the tub, thats when you pick them all.

Then proceed to the second flush. Otherwise you will constantly wait cause there will always be a few that are coming along.

Its better to pick them all, dunk then go to second flush right away then to pick a few everyday

P.S. Everything in your tub is ready to be picked right away.




Arghhhhhhh:mushroom2:

thank you guys. looks like i'll have some nice fruits to dry off today:omgawesome:

i'll pick the majority, that look mature and i'll post back a picture!


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: Patlal]
    #14247518 - 04/06/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

should i keep on picking? alot more pins have come through, and i picked a ton as well.
1 ounce dry so far (from the previous day(s))

in these pictures you will notice some of the tops of the shrooms have black/brown spots on the tops, is this normal?


in this picture in the bottom middle half of the tub, the colonization has turned into a somewhat almost purplish color, wtf is this? should i be concerned?

Keep on picking them?

any input would be much appreciated guys:mushroom2:


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14247522 - 04/06/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the purp could be from spores dropping.. pick pick pick


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14247528 - 04/06/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pick them as they mature and are ready. Once you're left with nothing but pins, leave them in place and dunk, those will be the beginning of your second flush.

The purple on your substrate is spores dude.


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: Smokey-hitz]
    #14247533 - 04/06/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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the purp could be from spores dropping.. pick pick pick




some of the fruits are miniature if that, i know they look bigger in the picture. but some are puny!

i'm thinking of waiting for some of them to get bigger(?)


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14247545 - 04/06/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea wait till the veil is about to pop. then pick


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14247553 - 04/06/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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the purp could be from spores dropping.. pick pick pick




some of the fruits are miniature if that, i know they look bigger in the picture. but some are puny!

i'm thinking of waiting for some of them to get bigger(?)




No matter how tiny they appear, once the veils have broken, caps begin to flatten and spores begin to drop they will not grow much larger.


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: bourndead]
    #14247568 - 04/06/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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the purp could be from spores dropping.. pick pick pick




some of the fruits are miniature if that, i know they look bigger in the picture. but some are puny!

i'm thinking of waiting for some of them to get bigger(?)




No matter how tiny they appear, once the veils have broken, caps begin to flatten and spores begin to drop they will not grow much larger.




ahh this is what i was looking for, thanks! ima pick my heart out :lol:

after i pick these bad boys(including all shrooms on the side of tub, pain in the ass BTW), and wait for the upcoming pins to pop up and sprout, should i dunk then?
..create another casing layer, or no?


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14247573 - 04/06/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

dunk, dont recase.. giggity.. good stuff..


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    #14247611 - 04/06/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I told you yesterday to pick them all and move to the second flush...


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    #14247702 - 04/06/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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dunk, dont recase.. giggity.. good stuff..



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I told you yesterday to pick them all and move to the second flush...





some of the veils have not torn yet though, although i just picked all that have torn. still working on the sides of the tub..

pick even though veils aren't torn? and still continue with dunk>>>second flush?


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: i95fl]
    #14247732 - 04/06/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

pick anything that is not a pin, dunk, and put back into fruiting conditions..


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    #14247765 - 04/06/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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pick anything that is not a pin, dunk, and put back into fruiting conditions..




thank you good sir
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    #14247775 - 04/06/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

giggity goo


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Re: how do i know when to pick them? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #14248000 - 04/06/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pick Pick Pick. Read above, for another flush. PICK, PICK PICK.


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