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myc color change
    #14235668 - 04/04/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The myc on a tray of Brazil (rye berries in breadpan tupperware) has turned a light bluish color @ the tray's edge. Right where the casing layer has pulled away slightly from the tray. It's the myc itself that has turned a little blue, nowhere else on the surface. Also in the same area, tiny white dots are appearing. They're all over the tray, but are much more prevalent in the blue zone. Could these be knots? They're tiny. Pinhead sized. First bulk attempt (obviously lol). Thanks all. PS: They're in a sgfc


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Re: myc color change [Re: Shamrocker]
    #14235687 - 04/04/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sound like hyphal knots to me...pictures would help though.

Do they look like this?
The little white protrusions from the substrate that are about 1/2" long are hyphal knots. (obviously not the mushies)

The blue is bruising. Your sub maybe a bit dry.

What's your misting+fanning schedule like?


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Re: myc color change [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14235724 - 04/04/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'd kill for it to look like that lol! Fan and mist 3 times on work days, 5 times weekend days. The white dots are exactly as described. Pinhead sized,though there are a few half inch rope like things as you described on the other tray in the fc


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Re: myc color change [Re: Shamrocker] * 1
    #14235773 - 04/04/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, it sounds like you're doing everything right.

You have a 6500k light on a 12/12 schedule, right?

Just be patient & it will come.

The reason I have so much knotting on the picture above is due to leaving it in colonization for too long. Thus, I restricted the FAE causing high levels of CO2, which caused the knots.


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Re: myc color change [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14235828 - 04/04/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks but I think I did a couple things wrong. I cased a cube and didn't put into FC until casing was about 40% colonized. This might have contributed to this. Also the myc on the other tray is getting a bluish tinge. Should I give them an extra heavy misting next time I fan?


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Re: myc color change [Re: Shamrocker]
    #14235839 - 04/04/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you didn't do anything WRONG by casing, you can case and have great success, its just not an absolute must for cubes...


as for the bluing, it could be several reasons causing it, one of most common is from substrate drying out..


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Re: myc color change [Re: Shamrocker]
    #14235853 - 04/04/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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When doing a casing layer, you case as you're putting them into fruiting conditions.

You should be able to tell how much misting you need to do by the weight of the substrate. It should be heavy when put into fruiting conditions then after the first flush lose a significant amount of weight. Then dunk for 4-6 hours (for bulk) & put back into fruiting conditions. If you're going to put another casing layer on it, you'd put it on right after the dunk.


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Re: myc color change [Re: biologys]
    #14235863 - 04/04/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thus, I restricted the FAE causing high levels of CO2, which caused the knots.




High levels of CO2 don't cause knots, they impede their formation.  Providing fresh air after high CO2 exposure will cause lots of knots to form.

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Thanks but I think I did a couple things wrong. I cased a cube and didn't put into FC until casing was about 40% colonized. This might have contributed to this.




That was the correct method if one is using a casing layer.  If it's blue around the edges, it implies the substrate needs to be misted more often to make up for moisture which is evaporating away.  Bear in mind, an overly wet or dry substrate will both bruise.  You can determine visually which is causing your bluing reaction.
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Re: myc color change [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14235877 - 04/04/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thus, I restricted the FAE causing high levels of CO2, which caused the knots.




High levels of CO2 don't cause knots, they impede their formation.  Providing fresh air after high CO2 exposure will cause lots of knots to form.






Ahh, I stand corrected...I got some bad info. Sorry OP. & thanks RR


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Re: myc color change [Re: biologys]
    #14235893 - 04/04/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks everyone! I think I may have under misted for fear of over saturation.  As for the light, they're get a days worth of indirect sunlight supplemented with an incandescent lamp for roughly
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Re: myc color change [Re: Shamrocker]
    #14254172 - 04/07/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There are tons of tiny bright white dots/bumps appearing all over the casing surface. Is this a good sign?


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