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Bottled water vs. tap
    #14235566 - 04/04/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So in my health class we watched more of a documentary on that. It said tap is much healthier, the bottles aren't healthy, etc.

Do you think a lot of it is bullshit, all true, or partially?

Sure, it sounds like it has a lot of truth to it, but you know how a lot of environmentalists are.

And what about non-water bottled drinks? What's the alternative for that? There are..., but I imagine it'd cost more and more time consuming.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14235590 - 04/04/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'd be very curious to see the evidence.

I doubt there is any evidence whatsoever suggesting a difference in morbidity and mortality with respect to drinking bottled versus tap water.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: badchad]
    #14235601 - 04/04/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Tap water is the best... No pollution from plastic bottle.

As for healthy, well, the only cases of sickness from drinking water comes from infected water.

Nobody drink water for its nutrients lol...

water is water... people have ben living off river water, lake water for thousands of years... im pretty sure the tad bit difference beteween the meniral content doesn't do shit in the long run....


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: badchad]
    #14235606 - 04/04/11 10:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i drink tap water all the time.

ive got 4 water bottles that i fill up and put in the fridge. ive got a little rotation going, so im never out of cold water to drink.

im not sure if its less healthy or not, but i know its a lot cheaper than buying bottled water. :thumbup:


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: Patlal]
    #14235610 - 04/04/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

watch this.



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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14235612 - 04/04/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think something in the plastic can catalyse the formation of free radicals (if not the plastic itself making them)

Tap is good or bad depending on where you at. My town has very high standards when it comes to tap water so I drink it often.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: mellowparty]
    #14235632 - 04/04/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've seen a documentary on Netflix Play-it-now called Tapped and it was really eye-opening. Apparently there is only ONE person in the FDA in charge of ALL bottled water regulation and monitoring, and that is only a part of her job, so she has other things to worry about as well.

The FDA does no testing on bottled water, and any testing that is done, comes directly from the manufacturers. All kinds of toxins show up in independent testing of bottled water off the shelf. And if you leave it in a hot car for a week and test again - of course there are even more detectable toxins.

I've been a life-long water drinker (as in, pretty much no other liquids other than coffee/juice) and always - and I always believed tap = terrible and bottled = wonderful.

Apparently the tap water facilities go through rigorous and mandated daily testing to ensure safety.

So we went and bought a water filter and now use that on tap water. The monetary savings is pretty significant in our household.

Anyway, before I saw that movie I had no idea - I had always heard sketchy things about how bad bottled water is for the planet, but I hadn't realized how it also harbors so much toxicity for one's body also :frown:

I would image that all plastic bottled drinks have the same issues raised in Tapped...


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: dwpineal]
    #14235643 - 04/04/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

tap is tested daily in most areas if not more. Bottled is tested rarely if at all. The only thing bottled water people have a chance at arguing is fluoride content if it really is bad for you or not but most bottled is filtered tap water from their area anyway.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14235706 - 04/04/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They're both bad but plastic is more toxic than chlorine and fluoride. Spring water in glass is the best but it's expensive. buy a high quality water filter.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: s240779] * 1
    #14235754 - 04/04/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The reason behind this is the EPA tracks all the pollutants in tap water and have stronger standards to pass than the FDA which looks over bottled water.

So it is in fact safer.

The only thing that people prefer is the taste of bottled water, and that's only because they add minerals.

The safest water is to get the brita filter for your tap water.

edit: well I didnt read the thread looks like people already pointed the fact out.

Im too lazy to delete my post.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: argg]
    #14235778 - 04/04/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I mostly drink sparkling water...so I have the luxury of not caring...:lol:
But I also drink tap water...from time to time since I need to organize finances
now and then (=money running out) and tbh, it's ok, until I get a whiff o chlorine,
then I dart to the store and buy me a big old non-sustainable ecologically
disastrous bottle of water...:shrug:


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: 13.step]
    #14235886 - 04/04/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's all about reverse osmosis filters.
Although you don't get any minerals.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: 13.step]
    #14235911 - 04/04/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I mostly drink sparkling water...so I have the luxury of not caring...:lol:
But I also drink tap water...from time to time since I need to organize finances
now and then (=money running out) and tbh, it's ok, until I get a whiff o chlorine,
then I dart to the store and buy me a big old non-sustainable ecologically
disastrous bottle of water...:shrug:





get a pitcher and keep it in the fridge. When it sits for a bit the chlorine evaporates pretty fast. I have a glass pitcher and a ceramic one for my kool aid.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: argg]
    #14236048 - 04/04/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'll probably do that in the near future...it's also a pretty stylish way
to drink your water...


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: 13.step]
    #14237421 - 04/04/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think it depends on where you live, tap water on the south shore of Louisiana is pretty bad, while the north shore has the best spring water in the country. I use a filter and drink the tap water mainly because buying several gallon jugs of Kentwood or Abita spring water every time I go to the grocery is a pain in the ass.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: argg]
    #14237503 - 04/04/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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13.step said:
I mostly drink sparkling water...so I have the luxury of not caring...:lol:
But I also drink tap water...from time to time since I need to organize finances
now and then (=money running out) and tbh, it's ok, until I get a whiff o chlorine,
then I dart to the store and buy me a big old non-sustainable ecologically
disastrous bottle of water...:shrug:





get a pitcher and keep it in the fridge. When it sits for a bit the chlorine evaporates pretty fast. I have a glass pitcher and a ceramic one for my kool aid.





exactly what i do.  i guarantee that anybody who wastes their money on bottled water would never be able to tell the difference between the two.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: dwpineal]
    #14237515 - 04/04/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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boondigi said:
watch this.





Good video. Said a lot of what the documentary in class said without being ridiculous with the music and drama:lol:.

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dwpineal said:
I've seen a documentary on Netflix Play-it-now called Tapped and it was really eye-opening. Apparently there is only ONE person in the FDA in charge of ALL bottled water regulation and monitoring, and that is only a part of her job, so she has other things to worry about as well.

The FDA does no testing on bottled water, and any testing that is done, comes directly from the manufacturers. All kinds of toxins show up in independent testing of bottled water off the shelf. And if you leave it in a hot car for a week and test again - of course there are even more detectable toxins.



This might be the one we're watching in class.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: blood4blood]
    #14237695 - 04/04/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm gonna get some number 1 plastic 3 or 5 gallon jugs and start going to an artesian well here in town.  I recently found the water quality reports for this spring and it's one of the best springs in North America.

I hate tap because it smells and tastes like a swimming pool and because I don't want the fluoride treatment.  Also, tap picks up stuff in the pipes which, depending on the pipes, is bad news. Plus there are residuals from pharmaceuticals at detectable levels. Also, a recent study analyzed the drinking water in 35 cities around the country found that most contained hexavalent chromium, a probable carcinogen.  Who knows what else is present that we aren't even looking for.

Tap water tastes/smells like shit and contains shit I don't want to drink, so I source spring water.  This whole idea that tap is better quality than bottled is really laughable since the chlorine alone in a glass of tap makes it a shitty glass of water unless I boil it first or let it sit out for hours.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14237704 - 04/04/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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SprewellSleeve said:
So in my health class we watched more of a documentary on that. It said tap is much healthier, the bottles aren't healthy, etc.

Do you think a lot of it is bullshit, all true, or partially?

Sure, it sounds like it has a lot of truth to it, but you know how a lot of environmentalists are.



Um.. no it doesnt.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14237705 - 04/04/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is a debate that I think has been beaten to death, and even after it was dead people fuck with its corpse.  If you think tap water is better, drink tap water. If you think bottled water is better, than drink bottled water.  EASY FUCKING PROBLEM TO SOLVE.  All these people make it a big deal and it pisses me off because its NOT a big deal at all. Plastic is fucking awesome and will be used no matter how many people protest against it.

I understand where the people against plastic are coming from, however.  But honestly people c'mon. If used responsibly (reuse plastic containers as much as possible) and disposed of properly its fine.

There is a documentary out there about this "garbage island" where all this garbage gathers in the pacific and forms kind of this island like landmass of garbage and plastic (kinda nasty yes). But anyway, the captain of the boat in the documentary is against the use of plastic so he keeps his shit in glass. Well... at one point when the crew is on their way BACK from the island (mind you it takes DAYS to get there)... ALL OF HIS VALUABLE SCIENCE SAMPLES KEPT IN GLASS FALL OF THE SHELF AND BREAK and he looses ALL OF THAT IMPORTANT data.  I FUCKING LOL'D MY ASS OFF. Idiot should have used plastic he throws a little whiny bitch fit over it of course, but it was funny as hell.  It takes like DAYS to get out there and all his shit broke making his adventure basically a waste of time. COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME. FUCKING DUMB SHIT!!!! ROFL!!! DAYS OF THIS IDIOTS TIME WASTED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE FUCKING PLASTIC!

But anyway...

I drink bottled water because the tap water where I live tastes like shit.  I can't drink it; it tastes awful.  My mother drinks it and sees no problem with it but I can't do it, so I drink my bottled water. 

Also, you can only re-use a plastic bottle (like a water bottle) so many times.  So I re-use the bottle (we have a water cooler) as much as it allows.  Usually I reuse a bottle about five times, or until the water starts to taste different.  But it has been proven that the plastic in bottles does degrade after time.  Its safe to use until it degrades, but once you notice it degrading (water taste different / bottle becomes "soft") recycle that shit and get a new bottle.

EDIT...

Yeah, some research shows more toxins and shit in plastic bottles... but who really cares. WHO REALLY FUCKING CARES.  I don't and I know many other people don't, it probably doesn't matter the toxin level is probably SO ACUTE that it doesn't effect us unless exposed to HIGH LEVELS of it for years.  Anything will scare anyone, lets scare people away from bottles.  I have drank bottled water for literally as long as I remember and I will continue doing so.  I am fine.  Everyone else I know who does the same is fine. 


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: Funguspants]
    #14237737 - 04/04/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What's the number in a circle/triangle on the bottom of your jug?


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: Viveka]
    #14237743 - 04/04/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm gonna get some number 1 plastic 3 or 5 gallon jugs and start going to an artesian well here in town.  I recently found the water quality reports for this spring and it's one of the best springs in North America.

I hate tap because it smells and tastes like a swimming pool and because I don't want the fluoride treatment.  Also, tap picks up stuff in the pipes which, depending on the pipes, is bad news. Plus there are residuals from pharmaceuticals at detectable levels. Also, a recent study analyzed the drinking water in 35 cities around the country found that most contained hexavalent chromium, a probable carcinogen.  Who knows what else is present that we aren't even looking for.

Tap water tastes/smells like shit and contains shit I don't want to drink, so I source spring water.  This whole idea that tap is better quality than bottled is really laughable since the chlorine alone in a glass of tap makes it a shitty glass of water unless I boil it first or let it sit out for hours.





if the source is a good spring with proper reports and you have shittier tap water by you that is cool but for most urban areas tap water way better but bottled is hit or miss. The chlorine can be evaporated without boiling by just letting it sit and the pipes get coated with the minerals in the water so the argument about picking up whats in the pipes is valid for a few weeks when the pipes get installed but that is about it. Most bottled goes through the same pipes then through a filter then into bottles to a truck and into a store then into your car to the fridge then in your tummy. I just would rather use the pipes the whole way as its kinda neat some people though " lets pipe water direct to people so they do not have to lug it anymore like savages"



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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: argg]
    #14238031 - 04/04/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

tap water is a horrible idea. makes life way more complicatred. people overuse water and use water in odd waYS. GOOD TO HAVE HOLY WATER SUPER PREMIUM MODIFIED NOT COMING FROM ANY PIPES NOT SURE HOW CLEAN PLastic is.  maybe better to make it materilized via magic or smoee shit. super pure holy water almost as good as weed, it'll save ya, baptied in teh faith of infant jesus born wig wam th eholy alackan polar bear with a systemetic styem for world domination in the form of talent slavery via worsihp edition fatih vs, tv vs technology vs massie dose of plant mistures, nitrous oxide.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14238043 - 04/04/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: Viveka]
    #14238058 - 04/04/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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What's the number in a circle/triangle on the bottom of your jug?





Are you talking water bottle or water-cooler jug? Bottles are 1, not going downstairs right now to check on the water jug.  I took an environmental science class and learned all about these numbers but I don't care about them... and I probably never will.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: Funguspants]
    #14238125 - 04/04/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Tap water has fluoride in it. Hormones in it and god knows what else possible. Just think bout this countrys infrastructure deteriorating. That shows me how well public facilities take care of their resources. Not to mention out here in riverside they had a chemical used in making rocket fuel seep into the system. Thats some healthy drinking. :cheers:


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14238154 - 04/04/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tap water has fluoride in it. Hormones in it and god knows what else possible. Just think bout this countrys infrastructure deteriorating. That shows me how well public facilities take care of their resources. Not to mention out here in riverside they had a chemical used in making rocket fuel seep into the system. Thats some healthy drinking. :cheers:




at least they tested it to fin d that rocket fuel ingredient. I bet a bunch of bottled has it in there but since they don't have to test it you never know and even if it gets tested they do not have to report it or recall it. Tap has to be reported and boil orders given if needed.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: argg]
    #14238199 - 04/04/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tap water has fluoride in it. Hormones in it and god knows what else possible. Just think bout this countrys infrastructure deteriorating. That shows me how well public facilities take care of their resources. Not to mention out here in riverside they had a chemical used in making rocket fuel seep into the system. Thats some healthy drinking. :cheers:




at least they tested it to fin d that rocket fuel ingredient. I bet a bunch of bottled has it in there but since they don't have to test it you never know and even if it gets tested they do not have to report it or recall it. Tap has to be reported and boil orders given if needed.


Actually people in the area that got contaminated were drinking it for a few weeks before they discovered it. Google it if ya want. Im sure there is a article on it, was in the news.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14238225 - 04/04/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

at least they found out. That shit would go out in bottles for years.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: argg]
    #14238236 - 04/04/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ill stick to bottled osmosis made water. I get enough contaminate chemicals from my food. :lol:


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14238244 - 04/04/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if its cleaned like that then its good but the costs are insane. I live in a area of really good lake michigan water so its fine.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14238248 - 04/04/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What if I put out a class when it's raining and drink that?


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14238249 - 04/04/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Does nobody else have a well to drink from?  At my house the tap water comes from a well in my yard...

Bottled water is too expensive and wasteful.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14238283 - 04/04/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

In the hills and mountains people have wells but even those are undrinkable. But there are alot of horse ranches up there. Im pretty sure it goes by how toxic the ground water is tho for wells. But i am no specialist.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14238297 - 04/04/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah that makes sense, my house is out in the boondocks so I'm pretty sure the water is clean.  There's no flouride or chlorine either.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14238345 - 04/04/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There one positive of livin in the sticks. :yesnod:


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14238402 - 04/04/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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There one positive of livin in the sticks. :yesnod:




There are tons of positives, I'd rather live in the sticks than in a city any day.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14238432 - 04/04/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if there was an old mine around or even natural arsenic deposits the well could be bad but most of the time its tested when property is bought and sold IIRC. A lot of the time well water tastes shitty but its just extra minerals.Well water can be good or bad due to the source just like bottled can be. City tap water is at least tested on the regular that is why you do hear about bad water sometimes but when you see the bad test results on bottled they never report it publicly like city tap has to by law so certain brands might have to much bacteria or poisons in it but they never really have to recall or report. If you are 100% against tap water at least look up the results of testing on the brand you prefer.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: argg]
    #14238467 - 04/04/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I personally think tap water is disgusting, mine taste like the metal it comes out of.


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Re: Bottled water vs. tap [Re: Connor4050]
    #14238483 - 04/04/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Bottled water tastes like plastic, my tap water just tastes like water.


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