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OfflineI AM SWIM
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Re: What causes one to want others to suffer? [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14194434 - 03/27/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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IYO, is the desire for others to suffer (physically or otherwise) a sign of bad health, good health, or neither? :septemberlol:





i think it's a sign of bad health, both physically and mentally.



Why?




Because whenever I have a desire for something, I instantly set myself up into a stage of suffering for wanting something I do not have. Instead, when I am happy with what I have right now, that's when I am free from the suffering of desire.

Now a desire for other people to suffer doesn't quite mix well with the belief that 'desire is a form of suffering.'

As for being a physical and mental health issue.
It's interrelated in the sense that, if I'm depressed, then that will affect my body.
If I am mentally depressed, my physical body will reflect that through the difficulty of getting out of bed or sleeping too much, not exercising (causing muscle atrophy),
not eating, or eating too much. (overweight - obesity/underweight - lack of nutrition) which affects both the health of the mind and body.

I don't think it is always like that though. I'm sure there are cases of very physically healthy people that are severely mentally unhealthy too.


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Re: What causes one to want others to suffer? [Re: Poid]
    #14233706 - 04/03/11 10:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Most of the time when I see someone like that it's because it's happened to them and they like the control it makes them feel, compared to the out of control feeling when it has happened to them if it makes sense. It's not healthy behavior. Not to say everyone who has that desire must have had that happen to them though.

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Re: What causes one to want others to suffer? [Re: foliocb]
    #14234658 - 04/04/11 03:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wanting others to suffer is simple ego based defense mechanism psychology. Projection to be more specific, you are suffering deep down inside, but the ego does not want to acknowledge this. Thus, it projects its suffering onto other people, by making other people suffer, thus trying to rid itself of it's internal suffering. Provides temporary relief to a permanent problem... and down goes the spiral...




The ego is unable to acknowledge suffering deep down as this is subconscious stuff now.  As the protector and barrier it is not a question of want for the ego, but of just doing its job.

As for the notion that pissing off people and being a dick is somehow trying to rid oneself of internal suffering, well bullshit.  More like misery loves company.   

And let's face it, it takes far more muscles to frown, so by wiping off their silly grins you are actually helping them burn calories.  Plus most people are so stupid and stuck in their fucking ruts they deserve a little wake up call in the form of some asshole fucking with them.  And let's face it it can be fun to fuck with people unless they pull a weapon out or do something back that isn't fun for you.  So be careful kids who you fuck with.

Of course, I am talking about being a general nuisance and pain in the ass, and not real suffering like physically hurting someone.  That shit is just uncalled for and can lead to an assault charge and who needs that on their record even if the dumb fuck needed an ass whipping?  Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me.  As some on here would agree with this bullshit too I spout it out for their head bobbing.

Words can't hurt are you kidding me?  What you never heard of emotional abuse?  Now, you can say "toughen up" and take all that shit like a man but come on, should you really have to?

But let's say you really should toughen up and take all that emotional abuse like it really wasn't suffering.  Or maybe you get to the point where you can poke a needle through your skin and it hurts a lot but at some point you get used to it and wow your friends are really sickened by it so you do it to impress them.  Who is suffering in that situation?

Do we make others suffer because they let us and then can whine because we made them suffer so much that they let us do it again and again?  I think the term is co-dependency which likely goes beyond the scope of this discussion.  Or perhaps not.


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Re: What causes one to want others to suffer? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14234674 - 04/04/11 03:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Actually most defense mechanisms are subconscious as well so it doesn't matter. The ego will try until the day it's dead to prove its existence, some people do this by projecting their suffering onto other people, whether it be physical and/or mental pain. The ego is very tricky... then you can dwindle in shadow psychology if you dare but thats a lecture in itself.


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Re: What causes one to want others to suffer? [Re: Poid]
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