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Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!)
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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1120567/1/.html
Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea Posted: 04 April 2011 1558 hrs Leaking radioactive contaminated water drain through crack of a maintenance pit into the sea, near the Unit 2 reactor of Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant (AP Photo/Tokyo Electric Power Co.) Photos of
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TOKYO: Japan plans to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea to free up storage space for more highly contaminated water at its crippled nuclear plant, the plant's operator said on Monday.
A spokesman for Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), operator of the crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, said the water was only weakly radioactive.
"Highly radioactive waste water has been accumulated at turbine buildings at Fukushima Daiichi, especially at the reactor unit 2," the official told reporters.
"There is a need to release already stored water in order to accept the additional waste water."
About 10,000 tons of radioactive waste water currently stored at a facility at Fukushima will be released into the ocean along with 1,500 tons of water from pits under reactor units 5 and 6 in the six-reactor plant, he said.
He said the release would take place "as soon as necessary preparations are made".
Government spokesman Yukio Edano confirmed the plan at a televised press conference, saying it was the only available option.
"We have no choice but to release water tainted with radioactive materials into the ocean as a safety measure," Edano said.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: henk600]
#14234620 - 04/04/11 02:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I suppose they'll dump water with low/mild levels of radioactivity in order to be able to store water that is dangerously radioactive. Unfortunately, vital information such as degree and type of contamination of the water are rarely if ever mentioned by the popular media.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: koraks]
#14234627 - 04/04/11 02:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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now would be a good time for those spaceships to neutralize the radioactivity... maybe they want to keep hands off?
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: sleepy]
#14234656 - 04/04/11 02:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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the aliens who are superior to us in morals and technology will save us. they are watching us all the time like big brothers, we are stupid and need punishment oops i meant saving.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: Bridgeburner]
#14234685 - 04/04/11 03:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think dumping the water at sea is a good way to get rid of it. Not sure what else they would do. The sea will dilute it enough so its not a problem. All of this radioactive metal came from the earth so it is a good idea to put it back there.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14234705 - 04/04/11 03:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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what would be nice is if they could put something in that water that would scare away fish so they don't get tainted with it until it gets properly diluted, hmmm....i wonder if an oil spill would work where's bp when u need them, another cool thing about the oil is it might trap it all along japans costline instead of potentially killing lots and lots of fish since all they are really saying is they need more room instead of posting numbers on the radioactivity, its like they are pulling a quick one and saying here this is your guys problem not ours.
They could at least put the water in barrels and let them float on there costline, im sure we could get them some super quick if they don't already have them. it might be more practical to just dump it in the ocean, i just feel they should do the "right" thing nomatter how much it costs, and then have the barrels floating around to remind them why they shouldn't rebuild them
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14234720 - 04/04/11 03:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: I think dumping the water at sea is a good way to get rid of it. Not sure what else they would do. The sea will dilute it enough so its not a problem. All of this radioactive metal came from the earth so it is a good idea to put it back there.
Yeah that's what I was thinking, I don't know what else they would do with it.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: Shroomerette]
#14234733 - 04/04/11 03:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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great... it might dilute but really now... just dump it in the ocean? isn't that what we always resort too? agh... oh well...
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: akira_akuma]
#14234758 - 04/04/11 04:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If they scatter it and don't dump it all in one spot it will probably dilute down to unnoticeable amounts really fast. They either have to put it in the ocean or in the ground and japan has much more ocean to work with than they do land.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: Shroomerette]
#14234763 - 04/04/11 04:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The northern hemisphere will be uninhabitable soon. Time to start saving up for a ticket to Australia
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: Shroomerette]
#14234772 - 04/04/11 04:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomerette said: If they scatter it and don't dump it all in one spot it will probably dilute down to unnoticeable amounts really fast. They either have to put it in the ocean or in the ground and japan has much more ocean to work with than they do land.
unnoticeable to us and the world stage... but not to the environment nor sea animals. i mean ,the proper measures, for sure, would have to be taken in any event but the Japanese government... has a bad reputation on their hands for environment issues and political backlash, so i'd wager that'd be willing to go behind the backs of people to limit the "backlash" and/or "embarrassment" of their handling of the situation.
so lets just say... my hopes are high that Japan will make the RIGHT desicions, and not fuck it up. but i believe that it's possible they might fuck it up for themselves.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: akira_akuma]
#14234780 - 04/04/11 04:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure the radioactive stuff they've been talking about has a raelly short half-life, like 6 days or so. So if this radioactive water is the same way then it should clear out in a few weeks, especially if it was only weakly radioactive to start with.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: Shroomerette]
#14234788 - 04/04/11 04:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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well, if that's the supposed level of radioactivity, then maybe it's not a big deal for our waters... and i supposed we can't launch the shit into space. 
oh well...
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: Shroomerette]
#14234799 - 04/04/11 04:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomerette said: . Yeah that's what I was thinking, I don't know what else they would do with it.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: vinsue]
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: vinsue] 1
#14234807 - 04/04/11 04:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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so if it only has a halflife of 6 days why don't they just put it in barrels,wait, then bottle it up and sell it to us and label it aquagreen
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14234810 - 04/04/11 04:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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What if a given isotope has a short half life but its fission products (presumably radioactive) are significantly longer-lived?
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14234812 - 04/04/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It doesn't have a half life of 6 days. Some elements do, and they have decayed for the large part by now (in particular iodine 131, which indeed has a half life of about 8 days), but for example cesium 137 has a half life of about 30 years, and it's bound to be present in the water about to be dumped into the ocean.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14234815 - 04/04/11 04:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: so if it only has a halflife of 6 days why don't they just put it in barrels,wait, then bottle it up and sell it to us and label it aquagreen
good call.
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koraks said: It doesn't have a half life of 6 days. Some elements do, and they have decayed for the large part by now (in particular iodine 131, which indeed has a half life of about 8 days), but for example cesium 137 has a half life of about 30 years, and it's bound to be present in the water about to be dumped into the ocean.
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Re: Japan to dump 11,500 tons of radioactive water at sea(WTF!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14234821 - 04/04/11 04:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: I think dumping the water at sea is a good way to get rid of it. Not sure what else they would do. The sea will dilute it enough so its not a problem. All of this radioactive metal came from the earth so it is a good idea to put it back there.
The metal did come from the Earth, indeed. However, nuclear waste is typically a fission product formed after the initial reaction, and results in isotopes that are far from natural. As these unnatural isotopes attempt to stabilize, they release extra energy in the form of radiation.
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