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super high dose of 2c-e
    #14234395 - 04/04/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i'm wondering what's gonna happen if i do a mega dose of a psychedelic? how would the experience differ from a normal dose?


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: evenbreak]
    #14234407 - 04/04/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

of course it would differ in length and intensity,
but if I was to do a massive dose of psychedelia it would be LSD or Psilocybin as these are the most safe/studied hallucinogens.


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: SalviNate]
    #14234416 - 04/04/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you could die, see Shroomery News Service article


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14234434 - 04/04/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_experience

so far i've only got to level 3 even after taking like 40mg. maybe a little bit of level 4 but i've never experienced anything too crazy

so i guess im just wondering if taking more 2c-e will get me to level 4 or higher? i only have access to 2c-e atm.


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: evenbreak]
    #14234496 - 04/04/11 01:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

More? Why more? Maybe try to change the ROA. Try IM or snorting? Perhaps combine it with ketamine ,mxe. Or blast a DMT pipe and a nos baloon at the peak :awecid:


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: Damkina]
    #14234608 - 04/04/11 02:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah mon, 40 mgs is up there, your not going to expereince any higher of a trip by eating more.... youve just maxxed out that chem... Its surprisingly easy to do if your levelheaded enough.
The downside is that you can KILL YOURSELF if your a hardhead like me and want to do a hundred mgs of 2c-e in a day, or a gram and a half of crystal mdma.
be easy man, just get yourself in a better mindset or experiment with SAFER chems than RCs
They are RESEARCH CHEMICALS and every time you ingest one, your conducting research on that chem.... don't be one of the few that takes a mega dose and dies of cardiac arrest or hypertensive vasoconstriction or some shit...


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: evenbreak]
    #14234873 - 04/04/11 05:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i think a lot of people here who think they have 2c-e dont really have 2c-e or they have very impure shit.

when i take 20mg's i can barely go for a walk. i usually just lay in my bed thinking "holy shiiiiiiiiit this is intense"


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14235110 - 04/04/11 08:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i think a lot of people here who think they have 2c-e dont really have 2c-e or they have very impure shit.

when i take 20mg's i can barely go for a walk. i usually just lay in my bed thinking "holy shiiiiiiiiit this is intense"




I did 37mgs before, from a very good source. Different people have different limits. But yeah, I wasn't going anywhere on that 37 lol. The 37 of 2c-e by its self put me on my ass when a over 50mg combo of E and I was pure candy on the boardwalk. Don't swim tripping lol.

But back to the OPs question. If phenethylamines like 2c's aren't getting you to where you want to go, switch to tryptamines. Tryptamines, in my opinion, offer much deeper trips. I'd recommend 4-aco-dmt... because it's just the best. Well not the best, but my favorite out of all the RC's I've tried. It'll get you there...


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: Drugstore Cowboy]
    #14235136 - 04/04/11 08:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

2c-X are known to react different on people. Some have a verry high `natural` tolerance to phenetylamines,while others can be sensitive. I would never oral it again. I`ll stick to snorting/IMing it :smile: Way better control over the trip. You can always add 1-2 mgs and keep going.


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hehe [Re: Drugstore Cowboy]
    #14239559 - 04/04/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tryptamines, in my opinion, offer much deeper trips.



Well thank you for that tidbit peggy hill


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: Damkina]
    #14239700 - 04/05/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I`ll stick to snorting/IMing it :smile: Way better control over the trip. You can always add 1-2 mgs and keep going.




me too... I liked it snorted, burns, but comes on fast and hard... love it

way easier to adjust dose.

but yeah... the burn :tongue:

I like to pop my initial dose, let that settle in, then sniff 5 mg bumps until I'm where I wanna be


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: LuSiD9]
    #14239749 - 04/05/11 12:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

shit will get fucked up OP


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Re: hehe [Re: drr]
    #14240930 - 04/05/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tryptamines, in my opinion, offer much deeper trips.



Well thank you for that tidbit peggy hill




Don't be a dick, I know some someone who has to take like 40mgs of aco to get where I go on 25 and with the same person goes batshit on moderate doses on 2ce. Different people have different thresholds for different substances, ya goober.


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Re: hehe [Re: Drugstore Cowboy]
    #14245883 - 04/06/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Drugstore Cowboy said:
Tryptamines, in my opinion, offer much deeper trips.



Well thank you for that tidbit peggy hill




Don't be a dick, I know some someone who has to take like 40mgs of aco to get where I go on 25 and with the same person goes batshit on moderate doses on 2ce. Different people have different thresholds for different substances, ya goober.



Hey buddy I'm sorry I wasnt trying to be a dick I've just been watching king of the hill for the past 36 hours straight


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Re: hehe [Re: drr]
    #14246064 - 04/06/11 03:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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drr said:
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Tryptamines, in my opinion, offer much deeper trips.



Well thank you for that tidbit peggy hill




Don't be a dick, I know some someone who has to take like 40mgs of aco to get where I go on 25 and with the same person goes batshit on moderate doses on 2ce. Different people have different thresholds for different substances, ya goober.



Hey buddy I'm sorry I wasnt trying to be a dick I've just been watching king of the hill for the past 36 hours straight





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Re: hehe [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #14246192 - 04/06/11 05:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

RESEARCH chemical.


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Re: hehe [Re: drr]
    #14247011 - 04/06/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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drr said:
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Drugstore Cowboy said:
Tryptamines, in my opinion, offer much deeper trips.



Well thank you for that tidbit peggy hill




Don't be a dick, I know some someone who has to take like 40mgs of aco to get where I go on 25 and with the same person goes batshit on moderate doses on 2ce. Different people have different thresholds for different substances, ya goober.



Hey buddy I'm sorry I wasnt trying to be a dick I've just been watching king of the hill for the past 36 hours straight




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Re: hehe [Re: Drugstore Cowboy]
    #14249429 - 04/06/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Phenethylamines are not suitable for "super high" doses. They have far greater physical side effects and are far easier to overdose on.


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Re: hehe [Re: doses]
    #14249563 - 04/06/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

honestly, I wouldn't increase the dose of 2C-E, it's a research chemical and it's very easy to overdose if not careful, but then again I get no reaction at all to 2C-E and I did 30mg in pill form and 20mg snorted


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Re: hehe *DELETED* [Re: doses]
    #14251741 - 04/07/11 06:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: hehe [Re: Drugstore Cowboy]
    #14251742 - 04/07/11 06:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Phenethylamines are not suitable for "super high" doses. They have far greater physical side effects and are far easier to overdose on.





Yeah dude I agree with you in retrospect. On that 37mgs I was a puddle of quivering humanity lol. I could feel my thoughts forming ideas and it kinda hurt. I guess it was just a trippy headache. But all I had to do to stop it was stop thinking and just roll with it... which is hard in a dark hard trip like that. I never bugged out, but I had some serious anxiety bubbling up inside me. And it's pretty hard on the GI tract...

If you want to trip hard on 2c's I'd recommend moderate doses of I and E mixed... visually... better than acid. But I never super dosed on acid.

I was at a national park and the entire world looked like a living breathing warping Van Gogh portrait of Wonderland...


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Re: hehe [Re: Drugstore Cowboy]
    #14251746 - 04/07/11 06:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:lol: quoting your own post so it doesnt rot at the bottom of the page.

i consider doing that sometimes, but never have.


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Re: hehe [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14251748 - 04/07/11 06:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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:lol: quoting your own post so it doesnt rot at the bottom of the page.

i consider doing that sometimes, but never have.




It was an accident. I hit quote instead of edit. My bad.


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Re: hehe [Re: Drugstore Cowboy]
    #14251756 - 04/07/11 06:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

pfft its not like it takes away from the experience of this thread or anything.

no need to apologize.


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Re: hehe [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14251766 - 04/07/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There's is a difference between apologizing and admitting fault. I'm not sorry lol

Just like saying "I understand" when your boss gives you shit, I don't agree with the soggy old bastard :crazy2:


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    #14251770 - 04/07/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

same difference. i say "my bad" instead of "im sorry".

its an apology but you dont have to feel guilty for it :lol:

but now we are detracting from the thread. but its not like i really care.


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Re: hehe [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14251818 - 04/07/11 07:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I can't say I ever really had a profound experience on 2c-e or any phens. I want to try mescaline, aren't all phens derived from that at some level?

And something I never understood, what's the difference between peyote and san pedro? I know I could just look it up but..butbut...bu-bububu-buuu. oooh boo boo, my sweet boo booo!

Don't feel like it.


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Re: hehe [Re: Drugstore Cowboy]
    #14252402 - 04/07/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They are two completely different cactus. They have one thing in common and that is mescaline.


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    #14252494 - 04/07/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Alright I was just wondering why san pedro is quasi-legal (if you're a church member) and peyote is not. Just odd to me. Or am I altogether misinformed?


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    #14252505 - 04/07/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Alright I was just wondering why san pedro is quasi-legal (if you're a church member) and peyote is not. Just odd to me. Or am I altogether misinformed?




thats another one of the blatant examples of how the drug war is failing.


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    #14252538 - 04/07/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Alright I was just wondering why san pedro is quasi-legal (if you're a church member) and peyote is not. Just odd to me. Or am I altogether misinformed?




thats another one of the blatant examples of how the drug war is failing.




I don't follow. :confused:


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: evenbreak]
    #14252555 - 04/07/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've taken some pretty big doses of 2C-E, and have tried it from many different legit vendors people can vouch for regarding quality. I have an unusually high tolerance to psychedelics I think, for example 1/8th of mushrooms doesn't do much for me from the times I have bought them and grown them, while my fellow psychonaut I usually journey with gets utterly mindfucked and has crazy visuals. I took 5 g of dried mushrooms I had grown and it was a decent giggly trip, my comrade said the couch we were on's patterns were morphing and making a sort of movie.  Anywho my first time taking 2C-E I took about 32 mg and it was a pretty MILD trip, just a few clouds morphing here and there and some CEV's. I have also taken 50 mg of 4-AcO-MIPT and it wasn't anything special save for some visuals for like an hour, and 46 mg of 4-AcO-DIPT, and none of these are really worth trying again, for me at least because I apparently have to take insanely high doses to get where I want to go, and it's treading on dangerous territory if I up the dose if the doses I already take are considered high by normal standards. ANYWHO I wasnted to be fully immersed in the 2C-E experience one day, further than our frail human senses can experience. I eyeballed a dose from a 250 mg baggie, I reckon it was between 120-140 mg. Monstrous. I ingested it and felt the anxious jittery psychedelic come-up feeling instantly, and within 20 minutes I was vomiting the chocolate donuts I had eaten. I always throw up on phenethylamine RC's. Tryptamines, not so much. So after I vomited it took me like 5 seconds to realize I was tripping insanely hard because the tree I was staring at was melting before my eyes. I walked to the park and I was a bit scared [I had dosed 2 of my friends] because I didn't know how much I had taken at the time. I sat in the grass and when I would look at something, the afterimage would stay far after I had looked away, my friends face, the school in front of the park. I had a bad feeling and thought I would be physiologically fucked up forever, I would be tripping forever and that I had messed up my visual cortex. I felt very weak because of the bodyload. I eased my mind when I realized it wasn't that bad at all; I guided my trip toward joviality. I was having the most amazing trails when I moved my hands, infinitely complex. I had the urge to do mathematics for some reason, the whole time I was on this. I felt like an Aztec [I'm Mexican] and doing ancient geometry or some shit. Forward to 2 hours later,. the trip greatly intensified and I am starting to see my friend's pixels, they were looking pretty 8-bit. Like a multitude of vastly colored squares corresponding to their skin color and shadows, etc. The soccer ball was looking like 1 giant pixel. I now knew what people meant when they said it feels "synthetic". I would describe it more as "mechanical" with some very mathematical visuals. Fast forward to a few hours later: I was peaking! I walked to the soccer field by my school and started to play with some friends. The ball was trailing some beautiful, magnificent tracers. I stopped playing because of the tachycardia I was experiencing which kind of bothered me and made me believe I was having a mini-stroke, and because of cardio vaso-constriction.  I lied down and looked at the sky. FUCKING. AMAZING. There were translucent serpent-like beings all over the sky, like completely covering the fucking sky. They were complex as fuck and to this they, I still find them impossible to draw. They looked kind of like this: http://imgur.com/NtoNZ but A LOT more in depth and complex. The whole fuckng sky. I was peaking for like 4 hours. The concrete was like another dimension, there was like ancient mayan or aztec hieroglyphs rising and swirling and whatnot on the floors. I thought about the relation between visuals and culture. I thought about a lot of things. I died and  was spread across the universe simultaneously. The trip ended at around 3 AM, 12 hours. I have HPPD and for a week after I had minor heart problems.


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Re: super high dose of 2c-e [Re: aconsumingvoid]
    #14252574 - 04/07/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So I think it's safe to say the LD50 of 2C-E is very high, though the accompanying problems with having too high of a dose aren't very worth it although this was the experience of a lifetime. I would do it again if I wasn't too pussy. But doses of 60-80 mg are beautiful. Pure beauty.


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Re: hehe [Re: Drugstore Cowboy]
    #14252608 - 04/07/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Alright I was just wondering why san pedro is quasi-legal (if you're a church member) and peyote is not. Just odd to me. Or am I altogether misinformed?




thats another one of the blatant examples of how the drug war is failing.




I don't follow. :confused:




attempting to control certain substances is supposed to be impossible and america is supposed to be drug free.

quite the opposite is true, drugs are insanely easy to obtain and tons of americans do drugs.


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