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need help to identify please.
    #14232312 - 04/03/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hi i am having a hard time telling what shrooms these are, help please?I can take more pictures if it helps. got them from a friend, want to double check that they are safe.





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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14232403 - 04/03/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You need less blurry pics


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14232513 - 04/03/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Definitely need better pics.Looks like dried lbm so id want to get an id on em for sure.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: avidpicker]
    #14232543 - 04/03/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Take a look here.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: avidpicker]
    #14232576 - 04/03/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i dont have a better camera, is there anything that i can look for to tell what it is? and what do you mean lbm? is that bad? kind of new to this all but i want to learn as much about it all as fast as i can and i found this site but for today im trying to find out if these are safe lol. they are dried so not sure about the spore print, and im in southern california.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14232596 - 04/03/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

lbm means little brown mushroom, which is about all we can tell about them from those pics. Not necessarily bad, they could be active, inactive, or poisonous.  Do you see any blue spots on your mushrooms?


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14232648 - 04/03/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you for helping, its much appreciated. I have been dieing to try these. Anyways back to the blue spots, not so much but i am not sure what part to be looking at. some of them are darker than others, might be a dark blue but kind of looks blackish? the lighter ones are more like a tan. but even the lighter ones have some darker spots, maybe it is just a dark blue.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14232669 - 04/03/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the link i gave you explains the information we are likely to need. we don't always need all of it, but you will almost always want to post all of it that you can. if there are terms you aren't familiar with you should look them up. google is good for that.

assuming you found those in dung or grass i would guess you have a Panaeolus species, but without even the basic information and/or clear pictures this is pretty much a wild guess.

even with the camera that you have (which we can see does not focus well) you can usually get much better pictures by taking the photos in good lighting, and at a little greater distance. you'll notice that the first two pictures are focused a little better.

if your camera does have a macro setting (usually a button with a little flower symbol) then use that, but otherwise, just try backing off bit by bit until the pictures look sharper and make sure you have ample lighting.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: canid]
    #14232714 - 04/03/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What he said ^

Try really hard to get better pictures.  If your friend told you where he found them include that info.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14232792 - 04/03/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I read that page, i tried taking more photos, they are below, i just did the darkest and lightest ones of the 7. southern california is the best i can really say, i think he was saying somewhere between fresno and santa cruz. like on side of freeway i think he said, he started growing them himself but i think they originally came from the ones he found that i describbed the location of.





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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14232837 - 04/03/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I wouldn't eat those. They dont appear to be a magic mushroom.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14232904 - 04/03/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They don't look like anything active, look for a button or setting with this symbol on your camera  :macrofunction:

It will help you take much clearer shots.  Very few digital cameras lack a macro function so it should be there somewhere. Natural lighting will make a big difference also.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Stopwhispering]
    #14232923 - 04/03/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I am using my phone as a camera, digital one broke a while back. i dont care if nothing happens but id prefer that they magic, just as long as they wont kill me lol. anyway to figure that out?


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14232929 - 04/03/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

not readily without all that information you don't have.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: canid]
    #14232950 - 04/03/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

damn alright well thanks for trying.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14232972 - 04/03/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i think they called gold benze or something like that, high altitude mountin type if that helps? called the friend n thats all he could say about em. sounded like gold benze when he said it but he had no idea how to spell it just how it sounded.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14233136 - 04/03/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the only thing close to that look is a paneaoulus tropicalis , but it seems too small for even that. It's highly doubtful that they are active. Feed on to your cat? Someones gonna fet mad I said that:grin:Your cat might die. Tell that guy he's a fag rip-off. Anyone giving away magic mushrooms better know what species they are, and tell you


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14233148 - 04/03/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i think they called gold benze or something like that, high altitude mountin type if that helps? called the friend n thats all he could say about em. sounded like gold benze when he said it but he had no idea how to spell it just how it sounded.




Has he tried them himself? He might be using you as a guinea pig.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14233159 - 04/03/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i wouldnt eat those!! and those pics are tooo ghetto to tell wtf they are.




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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14233165 - 04/03/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

LMAO great idea, not sure where to get a cat though. he says he tried them before, and that other info i said already. i thinking about trusting him but id really rather have some proof. its one thing to od on something on vomit it up but another to actually die if its poison.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233195 - 04/03/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

they remind me of pholiotina filaris, a deadly mushroom


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14233196 - 04/03/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i wouldnt eat those!! and those pics are tooo ghetto to tell wtf they are.




SHROOMERETTE, your sig rules!!:lol::thumbup:




Thanks very much :laugh:.

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LMAO great idea, not sure where to get a cat though. he says he tried them before, and that other info i said already. i thinking about trusting him but id really rather have some proof. its one thing to od on something on vomit it up but another to actually die if its poison.




Not a good idea to feed them to a cat :mad2:.  At least use a mouse or something instead.  Anyway, the evidence seems to suggest that you probably shouldn't eat them.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233205 - 04/03/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

damn that sucks. i wanted magic ones. least they were free. no one here would happen to be of help would they? lol


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14233217 - 04/03/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They are easy to grow or find yourself. Lots of info on this site for doing both.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14233225 - 04/03/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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they remind me of pholiotina filaris, a deadly mushroom




This is my opinion as well. Any time someone gives you free "magic" mushrooms, they better know the species. If the species can't be provided, they would go into my trash IMO. Sorry man.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233235 - 04/03/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

AWESOME. yeah i was already planning on growning eventually but for now its not the best idea. but i will check out how to find some, any tips besides what the site has? ill search around n find it. also thanks again for your help!


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233240 - 04/03/11 08:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Didn't you say you were in Cali? I'm sure you can find some wild with some searching. There is plenty of info on this site to help. Get out there and find some!


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14233245 - 04/03/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

At the top of the page, look under Mushroom Info > Find Mushrooms and look through that stuff.  Focus on the ones that are known to grow in the region you live in.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14233266 - 04/03/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This site and google really have all the info you will ever need, and some of the best help, fungi wise, on the internet. Just spend lots of your free time researching, reading, and looking at pictures. You'll start to understand what you wanna look for, and where. But for this time of year, your best bet would be Panaeolus cinctulus IMO. Make sure you know what actives grow in your area http://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area, and research the hell out of them. Best of luck to ya. :cheers:


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14234009 - 04/03/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i think they called gold benze



You find random mushrooms and think they are called a made up phantasy name but nevertheless want to eat them? Really? Wow. Your approach to mycology is bound to end you up in hospital.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14234039 - 04/03/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Don't be too harsh, his friend gave them to him and told him to eat them.  At least he come on here for ID first, that's :thumbup: in my book.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14234185 - 04/03/11 11:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thanks Shroomerette. anyways i not sure if anyone is still on but one of my friends just ate one cap like 15 mins ago. said they tasted right, lmao he is alive. how long do they take if they are bad or is one not enough? not so sure. if its still questionable then o well i am going to try huntin some tomorrow :laugh:


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14234235 - 04/04/11 12:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Um mushroom poisoning can take a day or 2 to show up and cause your liver and/or kidneys to fail...

I don't know if 1 cap is enough to cause poisoning, if it is an active species then 1 cap will probably not be enough to feel effects.  I strongly suggest you don't eat them, and if your friend gets any food-poisoning like symptoms then he should go the hospital.

I hope you didn't encourage him to do that, there are lbms that are deadly poisonous.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14234242 - 04/04/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

no he not only offered but insisted. once again thanks for the info lol. this is one area im lost in. and advice taken, im just going to hunt my own startin tomorrow after some research tonight. drinkin a bottle o wine n a eatin a green brownie so i at least got something for the night lol.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14234270 - 04/04/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Borrow a nice digital camera from a friend and get some good pictures please.


What color of the gills?


You don't have Psilocybe cubensis, maybe something from Panaeolus like Panaeolus cinctulus or P. cyanescens.


If the gills are jet black then its ok to eat and the mushrooms are not toxic.  If the gills are brown don't eat them.


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    #14234323 - 04/04/11 12:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

they are really small so kind of hard to tell but seems more brownish. Thank you for the easy spot method :laugh:


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14234383 - 04/04/11 12:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

DO NOT EAT


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    #14234398 - 04/04/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It is not an easy spot method. while no particularly dangerous mushrooms have black spores, it is on step in a network of observations which are used to tell different groups of mushrooms from one another.

Also remember from this that black is not relative. e.g. on this board, we see constant references from people to features being 'blackish brown' or 'blackish purple', etc. there is no such thing as blackish.

If your friend truly ate one of these, you should do him/her a favor and issue at least a little bit of a backhand.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14234560 - 04/04/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Don't be too harsh, his friend gave them to him and told him to eat them.



My mistake. I must have missed that bit. I thought he picked them himself. Apologies, OP.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14237095 - 04/04/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Borrow a nice digital camera from a friend and get some good pictures please.


What color of the gills?


You don't have Psilocybe cubensis, maybe something from Panaeolus like Panaeolus cinctulus or P. cyanescens.


If the gills are jet black then its ok to eat and the mushrooms are not toxic.  If the gills are brown don't eat them.




Thats what I was thinking.... leaning toward pan cinc.  Thats what they looked like to me.  Hard to tell with the bad pictures.


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Re: need help to identify please. [Re: Chalemi]
    #14237183 - 04/04/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im no shroom expert but i live in santa cruz and im 99% sure they have no effect but i dont know if their poisinous ive never seen anyone eat them and i wouldnt recomend eating them


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