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What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths?
    #14231962 - 04/03/11 04:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

?

Is this a legitimate concern, a practical concern, for the government of the US, one of the US states, or government in general?

Should we evaluate policy on this ground?

What about the kind of message we send to murderous lunatics?  Should we endeavor to send them the "right message"?


This seems to be an unstated presupposition of a significant amount of public discourse in US politics.  Is it a legitimate one or not?  Do the proponents of such arguments as presuppose these factors urge them upon others in good faith, or is it a cynical, dishonest, argument?

What do you think?  Why?

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: johnm214]
    #14232143 - 04/03/11 05:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I am Spartacus.


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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14232209 - 04/03/11 05:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You should answer: after all, its your rhetoric that drove that congressman (woman) to get shot.

I've been assured of this by many: you just can't go on with this "tone" and not expect random people to be assassinated because of it.

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: johnm214]
    #14232224 - 04/03/11 05:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/HarryReid-QuranBurning-Afghanistan-/2011/04/03/id/391567

I live close enough.  I'm going to shred a Koran on the steps of the UN.  Maybe I'll eat it.

I refuse to accede to the murderers' veto, unlike the cowards Parker and Stone.


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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14232270 - 04/03/11 05:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

OMG, I seriously cannot believe what those people quoted in the article are saying.

They refer to WWII era laws against giving aid to the enemy as suggesting Koran burning might be worthy of a ban?  How the hell do they do that?  That's the (stereotypical) enemy's book, not (stereotypically) ours.  This is like banning people from making Hitler jokes because he might get mad and hurt us.  What kinda wimps are these people?

I love the "I support free speech, but...."  That's always bullshit.  That they enemy attacked seemed to indicate they got the message, hence it was speech.

Go burn a bible too, just so the idiots like that pastor won't think your on his side (I love listening to those christians criticize the Koran with logic that almost always applies to the bible as well... other than the fact that christians generally don't fall out of the sky blowing themselves up if you chriticize christ).



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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: johnm214]
    #14232337 - 04/03/11 05:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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OMG, I seriously cannot believe what those people quoted in the article are saying.

They refer to WWII era laws against giving aid to the enemy as suggesting Koran burning might be worthy of a ban?  How the hell do they do that?  That's the (stereotypical) enemy's book, not (stereotypically) ours.  This is like banning people from making Hitler jokes because he might get mad and hurt us.  What kinda wimps are these people?

I love the "I support free speech, but...."  That's always bullshit.  That they enemy attacked seemed to indicate they got the message, hence it was speech.

Go burn a bible too, just so the idiots like that pastor won't think your on his side (I love listening to those christians criticize the Koran with logic that almost always applies to the bible as well... other than the fact that christians generally don't fall out of the sky blowing themselves up if you chriticize christ).







One of the hottest tickets in town is "Book of Mormon".  Parker and Stone make fun of Mormons.  My wife asked me if I wanted to go see it.  I said I wouldn't willingly put one fucking nickel in the pockets of those two cowardly cunts.  Either you are willing to ridicule all religions or you SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU EMPTY PANTS CUNTS.


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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14232444 - 04/03/11 06:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I think they were pretty equal.  My understanding is that their network censored their stuff at broadcast (despite allowing in the same episodes for Jesus to be made fun of- the ultimate double standard empowering act for violent retards).

Is there some evidence the creators themselves, those responsible for the musical, discriminated?  Everything I've heard about them seems to reveal that they pretty much agree with you (and me): that religion in general is pretty stupid.  Its  not like they had to decide to criticize muslims or show muhamed- that was their choice.

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: johnm214]
    #14234809 - 04/04/11 04:50 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

it's two dudes trying to run an idea that they created all by themselves and are capitilizing on it, themselves... simple?

throwing stones at a couple of regular dudes for what, zappa? LOL:lol:

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: johnm214]
    #14235001 - 04/04/11 07:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, they agree with us.  But they censor themselves.  They are cowards.  They put themselves in that position by smacking other religions.  Smack one, smack all.  I have no use for any religion but I find myself defending religious people more and more because I am utterly disgusted at the disparate application of politically correct ridicule.  That includes telling the Jews I live with and around that there is nothing weirder about any Christians than there is about them.  They look at me like I farted.  I don't care.  "No, pumpkin, Islam is not a religion of peace.  Give me a call when someone puts a price on your head for burning ink squiggles about Moses and Jesus and Buddha, etfuckingcetera."


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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14236120 - 04/04/11 01:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

After what you have said do you think it is morally correct for Israeli intelligence assets to continue manipulating the American people into defending Israel using religion as an excuse?

:sherlock:

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: Mr.Al]
    #14236134 - 04/04/11 01:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

not a good idea, obviously.

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: Mr.Al]
    #14236141 - 04/04/11 01:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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After what you have said do you think it is morally correct for Israeli intelligence assets to continue manipulating the American people into defending Israel using religion as an excuse?

:sherlock:



:flowstone:

Stop pestering the forum with your Paulbot anti-semitism and just go out and gas some Jews already.  You know you want to.

Everybody has the right to try to manipulate the American people, Al.  And my defense of Israel has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the rule of law and common decency.


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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14236194 - 04/04/11 01:41 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

lets nuke everybody. there ya go problem solved. the us has the best system, even the people inside it are not perfect... so we need to focus on just US and making are AWESOME SYSTEM better, for US. and nuke everybody else... it's the only way. :yesnod:


ooorrrr... maybe we can just see to the end that we all know the insider secrets and THAT'll help MORE... :sadyes:

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: johnm214]
    #14236206 - 04/04/11 01:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Where's the link? :confused:

Who's sending what message to our children?

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14236235 - 04/04/11 01:49 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Mr.Al said:
After what you have said do you think it is morally correct for Israeli intelligence assets to continue manipulating the American people into defending Israel using religion as an excuse?

:sherlock:



:flowstone:

Stop pestering the forum with your Paulbot anti-semitism and just go out and gas some Jews already.  You know you want to.

Everybody has the right to try to manipulate the American people, Al.  And my defense of Israel has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the rule of law and common decency.





Showing your true colors aren't you?

Antisemitism blah blah blah.

I see that the U.S. has been arming various groups of semites, some jewish, muslim, and others for the purposes of setting up puppet governments and getting involved in matters that are not our business.


YOUR STANCE:  Anyone who doesn't support actively arming and supporting Israel must hate jews.

You sir are a racist.

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: Mr.Al]
    #14236238 - 04/04/11 01:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

no wa. puppet government? during times of war? NOO?! you can't be serious!1 :awesome:

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: Mr.Al]
    #14236273 - 04/04/11 01:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Mr.Al said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Mr.Al said:
After what you have said do you think it is morally correct for Israeli intelligence assets to continue manipulating the American people into defending Israel using religion as an excuse?

:sherlock:



:flowstone:

Stop pestering the forum with your Paulbot anti-semitism and just go out and gas some Jews already.  You know you want to.

Everybody has the right to try to manipulate the American people, Al.  And my defense of Israel has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the rule of law and common decency.





Showing your true colors aren't you?

Antisemitism blah blah blah.

I see that the U.S. has been arming various groups of semites, some jewish, muslim, and others for the purposes of setting up puppet governments and getting involved in matters that are not our business.


YOUR STANCE:  Anyone who doesn't support actively arming and supporting Israel must hate jews.

You sir are a racist.




:rofl2:

No, Al, there are reasonable people who wouldn't want to fund Israel who aren't Jew-hating punks.  I just don't think you belong to that group.  And what goes on in the Middle East most certainly is our business.  Only ostrich-like retards deny that.


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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14236312 - 04/04/11 02:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Mr.Al said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Mr.Al said:
After what you have said do you think it is morally correct for Israeli intelligence assets to continue manipulating the American people into defending Israel using religion as an excuse?

:sherlock:



:flowstone:

Stop pestering the forum with your Paulbot anti-semitism and just go out and gas some Jews already.  You know you want to.

Everybody has the right to try to manipulate the American people, Al.  And my defense of Israel has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the rule of law and common decency.





Showing your true colors aren't you?

Antisemitism blah blah blah.

I see that the U.S. has been arming various groups of semites, some jewish, muslim, and others for the purposes of setting up puppet governments and getting involved in matters that are not our business.


YOUR STANCE:  Anyone who doesn't support actively arming and supporting Israel must hate jews.

You sir are a racist.




:rofl2:

No, Al, there are reasonable people who wouldn't want to fund Israel who aren't Jew-hating punks.  I just don't think you belong to that group.  And what goes on in the Middle East most certainly is our business.  Only ostrich-like retards deny that.







You are also an intellectual coward.

How am I racist, exactly.

Who's buying the U.S. T-bills zap?

You are the ostrich.



I don't agree with your foreign policy views therefore I must be racist.


That is the weakest sauce dude.

Fucking pathetic.

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: Mr.Al]
    #14236322 - 04/04/11 02:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

he has had enough of people not agreeing with him, so he just don't give a fuck anymore! :emo:

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Re: What kind of message does this send to our children? Our murderous pschopaths? [Re: Mr.Al]
    #14236331 - 04/04/11 02:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

No, Al.  I have nailed you for an anti Semite long ago.  Although we give billions in aid all over the world the one that always sticks in your craw is Israel.  Israel this, Israel that, and BANKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who cares who's buying US T-Bills?  You got a xenophobia over T-Bills now?


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