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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233154 - 04/03/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Atheists do not attempt to create "powerful and long-lasting meaning".  Atheists establish no symbols, and do not relate humanity to beliefs and values.  Atheists generally believe that reality is how they perceive it, and don't believe in things that they can't see and have no evidence for.  That is not a religion.




bullshit. see marx and freud for two "long lasting" examples of arguments for atheism.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: millzy]
    #14233174 - 04/03/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Do you think every atheist has read them? I doubt that very many have, to be honest.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233183 - 04/03/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

so you're saying that there are people out there who hold belief systems in which they aren't very educated? hmmm...


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: millzy] * 2
    #14233204 - 04/03/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Atheism requires no education.  Atheism is not a belief system.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Poid]
    #14233216 - 04/03/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why do some people think this?





maybe because some people live their lives religiously atheist? or, maybe because the concept of 'religion' is far too narrowed down by the Judeo-Christian-Islamic embellishment of 'religion'?


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233222 - 04/03/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Atheism requires no education.  Atheism is not a belief system.




it is a belief that could easily become the foundation to an established belief system with atheist ideals at its core.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: meatcakeman]
    #14233234 - 04/03/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It is not a belief.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233254 - 04/03/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

atheism is not a religion, but that doesn't mean it doesn't define philosophical framework in which to contemplate your ideology. atheism's lack of liturgy and symbolism don't inhibit its ability to influence your world view, which last i checked is the same way a belief system functions.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: meatcakeman]
    #14233262 - 04/03/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Atheism requires no education.  Atheism is not a belief system.




it is a belief that could easily become the foundation to an established belief system with atheist ideals at its core.




see also: marxism


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233274 - 04/03/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This thread must not drone on any longer.

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Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4][5] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[5][6]







The actual wiki page goes on to describe all the different types of rejection of god there are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233292 - 04/03/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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It is not a belief.




atheism is a belief.
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–noun
1.
the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
2.
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.




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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: meatcakeman]
    #14233378 - 04/03/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think definition 2 is more accurate.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: millzy]
    #14233409 - 04/03/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"so where exactly do the ideas of perfect mathematical forms, moral perfection originate from?"

They don't originate from anywhere. Each person who grasps these concepts has a brain state to match.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: xFrockx]
    #14233433 - 04/03/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

so you're saying that these "brain states" exists in material reality, correct?


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233455 - 04/03/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I think definition 2 is more accurate.




well your opinion is nice and all, but it's your opinion.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: meatcakeman]
    #14233477 - 04/03/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I think definition 2 is more accurate.




well your opinion is nice and all, but it's your opinion.




:shrug: Even if definition one is right it still doesn't qualify as  religion.


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: millzy]
    #14233517 - 04/03/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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see also: marxism




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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233600 - 04/03/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Depends on what you define religion as.

For fucks sake are we just gonna have to keep repeating this shit? RTMFT


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: xFrockx]
    #14233631 - 04/03/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I think I've said about everything I want to say, peace out :peace:


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Re: "Atheism is a religion." [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14233636 - 04/03/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Then why did you say more?


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