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Re: Another 55g Pasteurizer Setup... Advice Wanted from local Straw Ninjas [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14228307 - 04/02/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, sounds horrible though. I bet mold grows on your testicles.:laugh:


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Re: Another 55g Pasteurizer Setup... Advice Wanted from local Straw Ninjas [Re: punkin]
    #14229214 - 04/03/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Nope. It's too cold for mold to grow here.  It's actually a very dry climate once the snow melts.  I wouldn't trade this place for anywhere else I've ever lived.  There's a grand total of only 9 people living within 100 square miles around us.
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Re: Another 55g Pasteurizer Setup... Advice Wanted from local Straw Ninjas [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14229302 - 04/03/11 12:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Probably moss then.

I see the beauty, but i reckon there's a reason there's so few [people living there.

We got places like that too.

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Re: Another 55g Pasteurizer Setup... Advice Wanted from local Straw Ninjas [Re: M8M]
    #14230001 - 04/03/11 06:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Why not mount a sheet of sheet metal out about 6 inches around your burner.  Wood stoves usually have a piece of sheet metal out about an inch or so from the back of the stove which enables you to decrease the distance to combustibles by at least 50%.  Would also serve as a wind break for your burner.




I wish I already had the tools and knowledge to work with metal. 

Maybe an old metal trashcan and tin snips...

I guess I will just have to do some surface temperature tests.

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Re: Another 55g Pasteurizer Setup... Advice Wanted from local Straw Ninjas [Re: aris]
    #14230424 - 04/03/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Old stoves, washers, dryers and refrigerators have good panels of sheet metal, many of which only require a screwdriver or wrench to remove.

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Re: Another 55g Pasteurizer Setup... Advice Wanted from local Straw Ninjas [Re: M8M]
    #14230570 - 04/03/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)





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Nope. It's too cold for mold to grow here.  It's actually a very dry climate once the snow melts.  I wouldn't trade this place for anywhere else I've ever lived.  There's a grand total of only 9 people living within 100 square miles around us.
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You can't beat the woods and the mountains!

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Gloves and insulation for barrel [Re: aris]
    #14241716 - 04/05/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Its still raining and has been for awhile so it was nice safe time to try this thing.  Im glad the manual pointed out that its wise to check gas seals with soapy water.
It was a pretty anticlimactic 20 min test.  No problems yet.  I need some nice gloves.  I will do a real test when I have the hoist set up.






Hmm figuring out this whole regulator air mix thing will take some tinkering to get just right.  I can't tell whats un burned gas and whats heat distorting the air around the burner.  The flame looks pretty blue to me but for all I know this thing is at a fraction of its potential.  The burner has a 30 psi regulator and I've got that set to about a half turn in these pics. The air mix is 1/3 open.

I'm feeling pretty safe.

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Re: Gloves and insulation for barrel [Re: aris]
    #14241943 - 04/05/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That's a good flame so your air adjustment is fine.  What you need to do is enclose the burner with bricks, which you'll take halfway up the pasteurizing barrel to direct the heat from the flame into the water, instead of paying to heat the air all around.

In other words, force the heat up and along the sides of the barrel, allowing the fumes to escape half way up.  Wrap the top half with insulation.  This will reduce gas use by over 50%, and also greatly reduce time to reach temperature.
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Re: Gloves and insulation for barrel [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14243317 - 04/05/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Good Thinking.


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Re: Gloves and insulation for barrel [Re: aris]
    #14243819 - 04/05/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Using bricks is safe?  I thought bricks had the potential to explode or something if heated? 

Maybe the temperatures we're working with wouldn't cause that to be a problem?


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Re: Gloves and insulation for barrel [Re: Humility]
    #14245898 - 04/06/11 02:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bricks are fine, they are fired in a kiln when made so they will not explode here.  After lots of cooks tey may degrade and crumble a bit.

It's river rocks you have to be careful of, the water that has soaked into them expands when hot and cracks or violently fractures them.  But they're a pain to stack so they wouldn't get used.


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Straw Log Jig and other updates.... [Re: aris]
    #14560908 - 06/04/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1 Straw log tubing made the perfect winch water-proofer


2 Teh straw log making jig... for this test wet straw and perlite were used in place of spawn and pasteurized straw.


3 a neon orange collar made of construction cone fits snugly in this orange funnel made of a modified cement foot mold.


4 a few clamps..  When the bag cavity is filled to capacity the whole funnel rig is winched up another foot higher and the base collar slides down the tube. The spawn in the core remains undisturbed somewhat like a twinkie filling.  The packer never has to reach very deep in to the tube.


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6 at the base of the log there is a sliding collar made of juice bottle, wood and zip ties


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9 A 5 foot log is compacted into a 3' log after its removed from the jig.


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13 Wallah!!  I dont think it will be that hard to adapt this design to one that uses the 400-800 lb winch to mechanically pack the log.  A piston that attaches to the wooden arm.

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Re: Straw Log Jig and other updates.... [Re: aris]
    #14560910 - 06/04/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

16  Here's the pasteurizer's sweater...

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20 Everything wrapped up nice and dry.....

21 Some new bolts to keep everything held down

22 My winch control water shield gelcap made out of plastic bottles... fingers can get in water not so much!

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Re: Straw Log Jig and other updates.... [Re: aris]
    #14562149 - 06/04/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice job.  I especially like your straw log jig. :thumbup:
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Re: Straw Log Jig and other updates.... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14562163 - 06/04/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks!

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1 PSI PC lid conversion.... [Re: aris]
    #14562485 - 06/04/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Im considering the best way to adapt this pasteurizer on a budget so that it can also be used as a 1 psi PC.  Wax paper is a start...  I have 14 dozen 1.5 pint jars that aren't in use because the volume limitations of the pc's I have now deside if im using quart jars or a spawn bag instead.  I don't have very many quart jars..

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this looks good...

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Re: 1 PSI PC lid conversion.... [Re: aris]
    #14562542 - 06/04/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice work! It really looks like everything's coming together! +5 :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: 1 PSI PC lid conversion.... [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #14562575 - 06/04/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for all the help Pitcher.  The burner you recommended works great!

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Re: 1 PSI PC lid conversion.... [Re: aris]
    #14563046 - 06/05/11 02:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

superb :super: great ideas!

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Re: 1 PSI PC lid conversion.... [Re: FractalXplora]
    #14564113 - 06/05/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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superb :super: great ideas!

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