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OfflineEquipto


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: desant]
    #14230466 - 04/03/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Haha that sounds good, if only we lived in a world where things could be decided so easily


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: Equipto]
    #14230471 - 04/03/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea, well, we not gonna get it done over night, but hard work over a number of years almost certanly we can get weed and shrooms legalized :mushroom2::rasta:

also dont forget 2012 is coming, if we see a shift - laws will change to anarchy


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: desant]
    #14230481 - 04/03/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

but then you have the problem of the drugs being super easy
for the non licensed to get(Im nuts but my buddy has a card and dosent care)

im not at all trying to shot down the ideas here
but this is so much more complicated then weed legalization


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: desant]
    #14230482 - 04/03/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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desant said:
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Equipto said:
Personally I don't think legalization of hallucinogens is a good idea at all. If you've ever been to a bigger school just think of all the frat boy sheeple idiots that can't even handle alcohol without causing a scene. Now imagine all those people on LSD together in public. No thanks.





In my book i propose that all holotropic drugs are issued to a LICENCE holder only

For example u need a licence of weed to buy weed.

And there should be centers for licence control same as motor vehicle regulations


So to address your problem - only responsible people with high IQ would be allowed access to acid :shrug:





Are you saying people with low IQ's are to stupid to take LSD? Are these centers going to test everyone. What is responsible. Being able to pay a high fee?

How about LSD just go back to how it was decades ago. Or just decriminalize it along with mushrooms and cacti.


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: Micawber]
    #14230503 - 04/03/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Micawber said:
but then you have the problem of the drugs being super easy
for the non licensed to get(Im nuts but my buddy has a card and dosent care)







I remember thinking about  that.

License holder would get his license revoked and banned, if found supplying to non license holders.

Its same with cigs here, under 16 year olds cant get em in shops. You dont see 12 year olds coming to a grown man and asking him to go pick up a packet of cigs... same with weed... once it will be legalized it will loose its appeal to the underage! think about it


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: desant]
    #14230523 - 04/03/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Anyway, anyone interested collaborating with me on this book im writing?

(Holotropic Drugs for Dummies)


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: desant]
    #14230561 - 04/03/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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desant said:
Anyway, anyone interested collaborating with me on this book im writing?

(Holotropic Drugs for Dummies)



no but id love to buy a coppie when it comes out


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: LoveOverAll]
    #14230795 - 04/03/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You've never seen anyone re-dose before?


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: jewunit]
    #14230853 - 04/03/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

theres a thread like this everyday

the world is a massive profit and production scheme


i dont like a lot of people in the world and if they were on drugs that would be worse


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: desant] * 1
    #14230879 - 04/03/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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desant said:
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Equipto said:
Personally I don't think legalization of hallucinogens is a good idea at all. If you've ever been to a bigger school just think of all the frat boy sheeple idiots that can't even handle alcohol without causing a scene. Now imagine all those people on LSD together in public. No thanks.





In my book i propose that all holotropic drugs are issued to a LICENCE holder only

For example u need a licence of weed to buy weed.

And there should be centers for licence control same as motor vehicle regulations


So to address your problem - only responsible people with high IQ would be allowed access to acid :shrug:




Yeah lets only gives licenses to people that can pass an incompetent IQ test :yesnod2:


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: Beanhead]
    #14230889 - 04/03/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

no one can decide if someone can handle psychs

each person knows more about themselves than anyone knows about them


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: LbDub]
    #14230969 - 04/03/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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LbDub said:
Hallucinogenics are absolutely drugs. I bet you're one of those people that praise cannabis & mushrooms because they're "natural" too, right?



Amen


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InvisibleLoveOverAll
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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: Johnnybones]
    #14236119 - 04/04/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Johnnybones said:
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LbDub said:
Hallucinogenics are absolutely drugs. I bet you're one of those people that praise cannabis & mushrooms because they're "natural" too, right?



Amen





All Hallucinogenic drugs were made illegal because one kid on acid jumped out a window, Dmt, psilocybin, lsd, ebogain, were made schedule 1.

Have you researched Hallucinogenic drugs?

Schedule 2 Cocaine


This system has never been handled in a rational and scientific way.


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: Micawber]
    #14236155 - 04/04/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Micawber said:
but then you have the problem of the drugs being super easy
for the non licensed to get(Im nuts but my buddy has a card and dosent care)

im not at all trying to shot down the ideas here
but this is so much more complicated then weed legalization




I wholeheartedly agree.

I think that psychedelics should be legal in a psychiatric setting.

Widespread legalization of psychedelics will lead to irresponsible use.

Irresponsible use of psychedelics has much further reaching consequences than irresponsible use of heroin.
Or even cocaine.


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: LoveOverAll]
    #14236686 - 04/04/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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theblackhole said:
Have all Hallucinations legalized?
Users may choose only one (30 total votes)




I was unaware hallucinations were illegal


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: LoveOverAll]
    #14236729 - 04/04/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think hallucinogens should be regulated at all. I guess that makes me a psychedelic anarchist. :ninja:


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: LoveOverAll] * 2
    #14236752 - 04/04/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I read your post about 5 times and I still can't figure out what the fuck you are talking about.


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: Gumby]
    #14236804 - 04/04/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thanx, it would have been 10x if it was in my hand writing.:wink:


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: Gumby]
    #14236814 - 04/04/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Gumby said:
I read your post about 5 times and I still can't figure out what the fuck you are talking about.




:lol:
Me too.

To the poster that says the licenses would be based on IQ tests, that's absolute bullshit and is one of the worse ways that I could think to hand out "licenses".


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Re: Hallucinations are not a drug. [Re: bryguy27007]
    #14236854 - 04/04/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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bryguy27007 said:

To the poster that says the licenses would be based on IQ tests, that's absolute bullshit and is one of the worse ways that I could think to hand out "licenses".




Seriously.

Also those of you who think keeping certain drugs illegal don't "get it". People will obtain whatever they want regardless of the legality of said item, and why would you want to lock anyone up for any victimless crime?


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