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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14225374 - 04/02/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Plenty of people are born into wealth and never work a day in their life, unless you're counting the tennis court at the country club as work.




these people get fucked karmically.  There's absolutely no way to be happy on this world if you aren't honest with yourself and able to stay in the moment.  But hey, they might have been born with less karmic requirements and in that cause their work will be very different then the kind of work you're generally referring to.

That's why children of comfort and privilege often make really good artists...spirituality and art do require leisure time in many respects.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: g00ru]
    #14225978 - 04/02/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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guruu said:
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Plenty of people are born into wealth and never work a day in their life, unless you're counting the tennis court at the country club as work.




these people get fucked karmically.


Even if they've never done anything "wrong"?


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guruu said:
There's absolutely no way to be happy on this world if you aren't honest with yourself and able to stay in the moment.


What in the fuck does that have to do with what's being discussed here? :levitate:


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guruu said:
But hey, they might have been born with less karmic requirements and in that cause their work will be very different then the kind of work you're generally referring to.


In what way(s) would it be different?


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That's why children of comfort and privilege often make really good artists...spirituality and art do require leisure time in many respects.


What do you mean by "spirituality"? Do you have any proof that children of comfort often make really good artists? What do you mean by often? How often?


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Poid]
    #14226248 - 04/02/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

summarize then respond, poid, summarize then respond. What I mean is that many people that don't do shit with their time are often unhappy, and that being comfortable isn't enough to make a happy life, and that this is why, even though Diploid doesn't like working hard, he really has to if he wants to be happy because that is just the nature of things, you get out what you put in.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Poid]
    #14226335 - 04/02/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I hate working, & I'm glad I don't have to work. :mexican:

:slaves:




It's allright, it's not like you're in the danger of being offered a job. :lol:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: DisoRDeR]
    #14226347 - 04/02/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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DisoRDeR said:
What about working for yourself?




I think that might just be the most selfish thing possible, I'm pretty sure you don't want that.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Toltecatl]
    #14226360 - 04/02/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Lack of work ethic is bad in any culture at any time.




The culture of the bums would disagree.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14226363 - 04/02/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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My garage will still need cleaning.




Too lazy to clean it? :lol:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #14226531 - 04/02/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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MushroomTrip said:
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Poid said:
I hate working, & I'm glad I don't have to work. :mexican:

:slaves:




It's allright, it's not like you're in the danger of being offered a job. :lol:


*alright:nerd:
Maybe I could use my typo-noticing skills to make something of myself some day. :Awemazing:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Work Ethic [Re: g00ru]
    #14226546 - 04/02/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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guruu said:
What I mean is that many people that don't do shit with their time are often unhappy...


And many people who do "do shit" (whatever that means...) with their time are also often unhappy; what's your point?


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guruu said:
...and that being comfortable isn't enough to make a happy life...


Maybe it isn't for some.


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guruu said:
...and that this is why, even though Diploid doesn't like working hard, he really has to if he wants to be happy because that is just the nature of things, you get out what you put in.


:lol:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Poid]
    #14226583 - 04/02/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Poid said:
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What I mean is that many people that don't do shit with their time are often unhappy...


And many people who do "do shit" (whatever that means...) with their time are also often unhappy; what's your point?






some are, but I would say generally more happy, because they are putting their energy to a constructive purpose which naturally makes you a more balanced person


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Poid]
    #14226632 - 04/02/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Poid said:

Maybe I could use my typo-noticing skills to make something of myself some day. :Awemazing:





I just found out how much the business world pays you if you are a good editor.

I was always told that writers don't make shit. I guess that's if you write stories about unicorns flying robotic dinosaurs to battle the evil spirits of Netru.

Apparently there is a shortage of competent writers who are willing to write/edit business material.

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Re: Work Ethic [Re: g00ru]
    #14226663 - 04/02/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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these people get fucked karmically




You know this how? :wow:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Freedom]
    #14226727 - 04/02/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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guruu said:
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Poid said:
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guruu said:
What I mean is that many people that don't do shit with their time are often unhappy...


And many people who do "do shit" (whatever that means...) with their time are also often unhappy; what's your point?






some are, but I would say generally more happy, because they are putting their energy to a constructive purpose which naturally makes you a more balanced person


What do you mean by "do shit"? I don't think there is a single human being who does absolutely nothing at all; some people like being "constructive", and others prefer spending the entirety of their lives relaxing, or having fun. You haven't provided any evidence for your claim that people who "do shit" are generally more happy than people who don't (not that I'm surprised, just pointing it out).


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Poid said:

Maybe I could use my typo-noticing skills to make something of myself some day. :Awemazing:





I just found out how much the business world pays you if you are a good editor.

I was always told that writers don't make shit. I guess that's if you write stories about unicorns flying robotic dinosaurs to battle the evil spirits of Netru.

Apparently there is a shortage of competent writers who are willing to write/edit business material.


Yeah, there's this editing class in one of the community colleges in my area; the description says something like "If you're the type of person who always notices spelling errors, then this is the class for you!"; I may just sign up for it some day in the near future...:strokebeard:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14226769 - 04/02/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

then you'll need to meet someone who knows someone who needs an editor.

And then you'll find yourself in the business subculture and probably be thinking, "what the hell am I doing here?"

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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Freedom] * 1
    #14226809 - 04/02/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

But then he'll be thinking: I am avoiding a karmic fucking.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: 13.step]
    #14227714 - 04/02/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

my bad that was directed at hippiechick:raphael:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14227779 - 04/02/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Some time ago, us humans figured out that if we work together, and form "societies", "clans" or whatever, that life could become better for the collective whole.

A society of people who work hard, and try increase their chances of a better standard of living.  Generally speaking, this holds true for the individual, regardless of whether or not he gets his/her boss rich in the process.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Toltecatl]
    #14229988 - 04/03/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:..well that's ironic...:lol:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Toltecatl]
    #14230156 - 04/03/11 08:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Diploid said:My guess is you're young and haven't been in the workforce long. Time will teach you though, unfortunately.

Wrong, your guess is, grasshopper. Much to learn you have.




Ah well, my bad. It was a guess born out of the lack of maturity in your insulting posts where you opt for saying nasty things about me instead of debating the topic.

Nevermind then.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14230181 - 04/03/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think everyone primarily has their own work ethics. The employee will do good stuff to the employers company as long as the employee gets something back from the work he does. That's the employees work ethic, as it's up to him what it is that he gains. He sets his own standards.
The employers work ethic not always is to get the most profit on all 'costs'. If he decides wisely, both ethics can meet somewhere in the middle to become a fruitful coexistence, so they can share a 'similar' work ethic.


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