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Arcturus17

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Doc_T
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Arcturus17]
#14228737 - 04/02/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Perhaps later we could compile a list of the various shapes that wheels come in.
Every day is post after post of somebody with imperfect conditions getting advice leading to better conditions. You seriously don't even need to use the search engine, just read the threads that are posted.
Also, buy a copy of TMC.
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Arcturus17

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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems *DELETED* [Re: Doc_T]
#14228762 - 04/02/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Primal Call
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Arcturus17]
#14228846 - 04/02/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Personally, I consider the parameters a circular balance of preference and/or what's possible to pull off in a grower's particular scenario. FAE causes evaporation, which is possible because of high humidity and moisture in the substrate/casing.
I don't yet have tons of experience behind me, but I read a lot, and here's some of what I see others write about when troubleshooting.
too little humidity: small mushrooms, disappointing pin-set because of lacking evaporation from the sub
too much humidity: "white-feet" 100% would hypothetically lead to no evaporation, but getting a surface and the entirety of the chamber to hold 100% would be pretty amazing IMO.
too little FAE: skinny shrooms, early opening caps, "white-feet" because less FAE usually ups the humidity if moisture is right
too much FAE: drying out the substrate. low/no humidity = no evaporation
see what I mean with the circles? I'm probably missing some symptoms in my noobness, but hopefully this is what you're LF. hopefully this will turn into a one-stop-shop for pinning strategy/fruiting condition troubleshooting.
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biologys
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Primal Call]
#14228859 - 04/02/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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small caps is normally due to insufficient lighting.
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Doc_T
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Arcturus17]
#14228867 - 04/02/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Arcturus17 said: Oh, I use the search function quite a bit. The "only trusted cultivators" check box is handy.
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Damion5050
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Doc_T]
#14228917 - 04/02/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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Arcturus17 said: Oh, I use the search function quite a bit. The "only trusted cultivators" check box is handy.

lol did he strike a nerve lmao..
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biologys
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Damion5050]
#14228929 - 04/02/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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so funny how even the newer members know how to get on doc's bad side....i love it :-x
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Damion5050
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Damion5050]
#14228944 - 04/02/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Too little humidity?
Too much humidity?
Too little FAE?
Too much FAE?
Too little RH would mean your substrate is drying out which would me little shrooms or poor pinsets.. Also small thick shrooms can mean your temps are too low..
Too much, well you can't have to much per say, as long as they are getting fresh air 100% Rh is fine, only down side really is puddeling
Too little fresh air will make poor pinsets as well as tall skinny shrooms because they are usually reaching to try and get out of the high concentration of CO2 and get to the fresh air..
To much fresh air exchange, well like to much Rh, there really isn't to much fresh air exchange, you can give constant fresh air as long as you maintain a high Rh level. To much fresh air that lowers your rh can cause your sub to dry out and cause small shrooms and poor pinsets as in your first ?
Also as in light, the right light is very important, you will get bigger caps, healthier shrooms, and better pinsets..
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Arcturus17]
#14228963 - 04/02/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Too little humidity? Substrate dries out too much between misting. Pins form, but then abort right away. Mushrooms that do grow have cracked caps.
Too much humidity? There is no such thing, provided there's sufficient fresh air supply.
Too little FAE? Poor fruiting performance, high incidence of molds, long stems with tiny caps.
Too much FAE? Will reduce humidity. RR
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Arcturus17

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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems *DELETED* [Re: Damion5050]
#14229060 - 04/02/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Primal Call
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: biologys]
#14229072 - 04/02/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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biologys said: small caps is normally due to insufficient lighting.
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Damion5050
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Arcturus17]
#14229075 - 04/02/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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opposite of what I already stated..
Little under developed caps, Poor pinset are the main things..
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jokefox
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Re: Guide to Symptoms of Fruiting Condition Problems [Re: Damion5050]
#14229641 - 04/03/11 01:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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no such thing as to much fae, as long as its moist,
given there will be some humidity dropped from the moving air, but nothing that some fanning and misting wont fix,
i believe fanning and misting will always help if balanced right,
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