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Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed
#14226793 - 04/02/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The True Believers will give a dozen or so of the standard 48 excuses, but behind all the bluster and noise, there is only ONE reason:
Not one human being can alter physics with his mind.
That's it. No conspiracy. No Cosmic Spiritual Laws preventing such an exhibition. No government boogie men.
Just plain old self-delusion followed by abject failure.
Of course, this is why the weak-minded head over to M&P where close examination is seen as poison. But ignorance is the real poison. A question never hurts a non-rigid mind. Never.
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I can move my arms with my mind
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Freedom]
#14226821 - 04/02/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Now move your mind with your arms and you will have reached the Tenth Level, Grasshopper.
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I've been working on doing Tai chi while drinking Chai tea so I can get to the next level
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Freedom]
#14226859 - 04/02/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hope you have mastered the art of heating your tea with your hands. Otherwise you are not as far along as I thought.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Freedom]
#14226969 - 04/02/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have a chia pet. Does that count?
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Diploid]
#14227027 - 04/02/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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is it a thai chia?
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Freedom]
#14227049 - 04/02/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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People can use telekenis and can alter physics with their mind, but not if there are any skeptics watching.. it's the S-rays man.
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I can move my arms with my mind
Simple point yet profound IMO.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: soldatheero]
#14229169 - 04/03/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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How is that profound?
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Poid]
#14229185 - 04/03/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's thought manifested as physical action. Even greater than our ability to think thoughts is our ability to change the world around us, the world of others, with those thoughts.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Poid]
#14229187 - 04/03/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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because the self which has no specific centre or location in the brain or body can take control of matter.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: soldatheero]
#14229234 - 04/03/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: It's thought manifested as physical action. Even greater than our ability to think thoughts is our ability to change the world around us, the world of others, with those thoughts.
That's not very profound IMO, it's actually quite ordinary.
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soldatheero said: because the self which has no specific centre or location in the brain or body can take control of matter.
If this "self" has no specific center or location in the brain or body, then it doesn't exist in the brain or body; if it doesn't exist in the brain or body, then no human possesses it.
IOW, this "self" concept is a load of shit.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Poid]
#14229256 - 04/03/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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How could someone posess themselves? possesion of something implies posession of something other then yourself.
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IOW, this "self" concept is a load of shit.
Sure but even then do you deny that you exist right now? Being exists and being is not the brain it is being not brain, being can control matter just like he said we can move our bodies that is being controlling matter.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: soldatheero]
#14229314 - 04/03/11 12:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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soldatheero said:
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IOW, this "self" concept is a load of shit.
Sure but even then do you deny that you exist right now? Being exists...
This is the same thing as saying existence exists.
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soldatheero said: ...and being is not the brain it is being not brain, being can control matter just like he said we can move our bodies that is being controlling matter.
Everything that exists has the quality of existing, and some existent things can control other existent things; saying that being can control matter is like saying that existence can control matter. Doesn't make any sense.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Poid]
#14229393 - 04/03/11 12:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I could say being is the mind or it is consciousness however it is neither of these but something of its own. The point is that being is not matter.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: soldatheero]
#14229434 - 04/03/11 12:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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How are you defining "being"? Are you defining it in a way that is synonymous with "existence"?
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: soldatheero]
#14229439 - 04/03/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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and some existent things can control other existent things
Like what? What matter can control other matter? It is true that forces can control matter. However the only matter I can see controlling matter is in living things which is apparently according to you matter controling itself? The only matter controlling itself are plants, insects animals etc and they all happen to have consciousness or "being" in common. Perhaps only being can really control matter.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: soldatheero]
#14229476 - 04/03/11 01:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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and some existent things can control other existent things
Like what? What matter can control other matter?
Humans, and other creatures.
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soldatheero said: It is true that forces can control matter. However the only matter I can see controlling matter is in living things which is apparently according to you matter controling itself?
Yes; creatures can exercise control over other things besides themselves.
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soldatheero said: The only matter controlling itself are plants, insects animals etc and they all happen to have consciousness or "being" in common. Perhaps only being can really control matter.
Please tell me how you're defining being.
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Re: Why the Randi Millions remain unclaimed [Re: Poid] 1
#14229523 - 04/03/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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soldatheero said: because the self which has no specific centre or location in the brain or body can take control of matter.
If this "self" has no specific center or location in the brain or body, then it doesn't exist in the brain or body; if it doesn't exist in the brain or body, then no human possesses it.
IOW, this "self" concept is a load of shit.
 
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