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iLuvAF
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Registered: 01/04/11
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Preparing for LSA Extraction! I have some Q's.
#14226537 - 04/02/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright.
- 12g's (approx:550) Heaven Blue Morning Glory Seeds (Getting Soon) - 100% Drinkable Grain alcohol (Everclear) (Will moonshine work?) - 3 medium size (Clean/sterile) glass jars with lids. (Have) - Small bowl to rinse/wash seeds in.(Have) - Dish soap (Have) - 1 1oz Bottle of Peppermint extract (86%Alc) (Is this actually needed?) - Coffee grinder or similar device. (Have) - Petroleum Ether or NAPHTHA (I used Ronsonol: Lighter Fuel in the yellow bottle) (Alright.. This is one of my main questions.. I have a ridiculous amount of kerosene lamp fluid. It says it contains petroleum hydrocarbon on the back side and the front says 99% paraffin. Will this work in place of the Ether or NAPTHA?)
- Coffee Filter (Clean/Sterile ,Preferably one of the reusable kinds that come with some type of coffee makers)(Have) - Clean Metal spoon (Or any other stirring/scraping tool)(Have) - Funnel (Not to big)(Have)
Here are my question if you missed them in red above.. haha This is one of my main questions.. I have a ridiculous amount of kerosene lamp fluid. It says it contains petroleum hydrocarbon on the back side and the front says 99% paraffin. Will this work in place of the Ether or NAPTHA?
Also, "100% Drinkable Grain alcohol (Everclear)" Is it possible to use moonshine in place of Everclear? Its pretty much Straight alcohol and a tiny amount of water but its not a grain alcohol..
Is the 1oz Bottle of Peppermint extract really necessary?
Please get back to me! Much thanks.. -iLuvAF
Edit: I am sorry if these are stupid questions by the way.. I just want to be 100% sure before I waste my time.
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Edited by iLuvAF (04/02/11 03:03 PM)
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Cynosure
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Re: Preparing for LSA Extraction! I have some Q's. [Re: iLuvAF]
#14226616 - 04/02/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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iLuvAF said: - 100% Drinkable Grain alcohol (Everclear) (Will moonshine work?)
You probably could.. but I'd stick with the Everclear.
The Everclear is used at 100% because it's cheap and has the best yields. You can also evaporate it off fairly quickly and be left with a film/powder of LSA. I believe it would be incredibly difficult to know the % alcohol of your Moonshine (thus leaving you with an unknown dosage), it would take longer to evaporate off, and may leave behind a nasty, brown, whiskey goop that I wouldn't want to try to ingest!
I'm sure you could also use 99% ISO (from a pharmacy), or some other form of clear high percentage alcohol.
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iLuvAF said: - 1 1oz Bottle of Peppermint extract (86%Alc) (Is this actually needed?)
This is not necessary. The peppermint extract is hypothesized to convert the LSA to LSH (which apparently more closely resembles LSD).
No one has proven this to be true or false. Your best bet would be to go one round without it and try another round with it then compare your experiences. Be sure to report back! 
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iLuvAF said: - Petroleum Ether or NAPHTHA (I used Ronsonol: Lighter Fuel in the yellow bottle) (Alright.. This is one of my main questions.. I have a ridiculous amount of kerosene lamp fluid. It says it contains petroleum hydrocarbon on the back side and the front says 99% paraffin. Will this work in place of the Ether or NAPTHA?)
I don't know the answer to this question.. sorry! As far as I know you want "petroleum ether" and that doesn't seem to be "petroleum hydrocarbon".
I'd advise sticking to the proven teks. I wouldn't start trying to modify them until after you understand (at least a little) the chemistry behind everything.
That said, I find a CWE to be extremely efficient and much less of a hassle than these alcohol/naptha extractions.
Good luck!
-------------------- "You can peel it [language] off the ceiling and make it dance in front of you" - McKenna <3 .
Edited by Cynosure (04/02/11 03:28 PM)
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iLuvAF
Dont take me seriously!!


Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 514
Loc: FL
Last seen: 12 years, 4 days
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Re: Preparing for LSA Extraction! I have some Q's. [Re: Cynosure]
#14226701 - 04/02/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cynosure said:
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iLuvAF said: - 100% Drinkable Grain alcohol (Everclear) (Will moonshine work?)
You probably could.. but I'd stick with the Everclear.
The Everclear is used at 100% because it's cheap and has the best yields. You can also evaporate it off fairly quickly and be left with a film/powder of LSA. I believe it would be incredibly difficult to know the % alcohol of your Moonshine (thus leaving you with an unknown dosage), it would take longer to evaporate off, and may leave behind a nasty, brown, whiskey goop that I wouldn't want to try to ingest!
I'm sure you could also use 99% ISO (from a pharmacy), or some other form of clear high percentage alcohol.
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iLuvAF said: - 1 1oz Bottle of Peppermint extract (86%Alc) (Is this actually needed?)
This is not necessary. The peppermint extract is hypothesized to convert the LSA to LSH (which apparently more closely resembles LSD).
No one has proven this to be true or false. Your best bet would be to go one round without it and try another round with it then compare your experiences. Be sure to report back! 
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iLuvAF said: - Petroleum Ether or NAPHTHA (I used Ronsonol: Lighter Fuel in the yellow bottle) (Alright.. This is one of my main questions.. I have a ridiculous amount of kerosene lamp fluid. It says it contains petroleum hydrocarbon on the back side and the front says 99% paraffin. Will this work in place of the Ether or NAPTHA?)
I don't know the answer to this question.. sorry! As far as I know you want "petroleum ether" and that doesn't seem to be "petroleum hydrocarbon".
I'd advise sticking to the proven teks. I wouldn't start trying to modify them until after you understand (at least a little) the chemistry behind everything.
That said, I find a CWE to be extremely efficient and much less of a hassle than these alcohol/naptha extractions.
Good luck!
With the CWE, can you get it down to a powder/film? I want to be able to reduce it into a powder so I can stuff them into empty pill shells and let people try them at an upcoming festival.
Also, Should I just use plain ol' zippo lighter fluid?
-------------------- My first attempt at a SUCCESSFUL grow! ------- Total prints donated: 1 Please Donate! -------- Looking for PE prints! I have forever and 4$ stamps to trade! me!
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Cynosure
allow me to be your guide.


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Re: Preparing for LSA Extraction! I have some Q's. [Re: iLuvAF]
#14226728 - 04/02/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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iLuvAF said: With the CWE, can you get it down to a powder/film? I want to be able to reduce it into a powder so I can stuff them into empty pill shells and let people try them at an upcoming festival.
Also, Should I just use plain ol' zippo lighter fluid?
Nope. Technically you could, but you'd lose so much LSA in the process that I don't think it'd be worth it. =P I guess you'll have to stick with this tek.
Yup! Zippo lighter fluid and Naptha are the interchangeable.
-------------------- "You can peel it [language] off the ceiling and make it dance in front of you" - McKenna <3 .
Edited by Cynosure (04/02/11 03:47 PM)
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iLuvAF
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Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 514
Loc: FL
Last seen: 12 years, 4 days
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Re: Preparing for LSA Extraction! I have some Q's. [Re: Cynosure]
#14226951 - 04/02/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cynosure said:
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iLuvAF said: With the CWE, can you get it down to a powder/film? I want to be able to reduce it into a powder so I can stuff them into empty pill shells and let people try them at an upcoming festival.
Also, Should I just use plain ol' zippo lighter fluid?
Nope. Technically you could, but you'd lose so much LSA in the process that I don't think it'd be worth it. =P I guess you'll have to stick with this tek.
Yup! Zippo lighter fluid and Naptha are the interchangeable.
Thanks for the info/help!
-------------------- My first attempt at a SUCCESSFUL grow! ------- Total prints donated: 1 Please Donate! -------- Looking for PE prints! I have forever and 4$ stamps to trade! me!
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