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what is the difference between shrooms and acid
    #14226399 - 04/02/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

and which one should i take for my first time
shrooms or acid
You may choose only one


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: grizzlynick]
    #14226402 - 04/02/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Use the search function and you will find this question answered about 10,000 times


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: grizzlynick]
    #14226403 - 04/02/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Length, and shrooms are a bit more dreamy feeling.


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: grizzlynick]
    #14226686 - 04/02/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Vibes/Headspace

For me shrooms feel very spiritual. Being a spiritual person myself, shrooms help me connect with the universe.

Acid is very stimulating. It makes you want to get up dance and enjoy things. But I find it less spiritual and far more egotistical.

Shrooms feel more like a dream, while acid feel more like mania.

Visuals

Shroom visuals are very hyperspace'esque, the visuals are like a slow version of DMT. Being in nature rocks too.



Acid visuals are crazy and weird. Acid seems to bring my imagination in to reality, and I will will see effects like in CGI films happing to regular objects. As well as fractals and all sorts of wonderful shit.




Duration

Shrooms: 6-8 hours
Acid: 8-12 hours

Shrooms are far shorter lasting than acid. Shrooms have one solid peak, as in you come up, feel it and then start cruising down. Acid can come in waves and if you're not ready for that you may think you're permafried and freak out :P




Bottom line

It's a lot harder to have a bad trip on shrooms and it can really prepare you for the psychedelic headspace. I'd say start with shrooms a couple of times and get a feel for them then try lucy and see how you go. If you love having a good time I'm sure you'll like lucy more - but if you're very spiritual/philosophical then shrooms may be your cup of tea... pun intended :crazy2:


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: Dawks] * 1
    #14227035 - 04/02/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've always gone by the "Acid is about you"  Mushrooms are more earthy feeling, more organic. 

Interestingly the active drug in mushroom is 4-HO-DMT... so a tweek on the DMT molecule. I think this is important to understand because it helps explain why the experience is different from LSD.  It makes them have a dreamy and spiritual feeling. I always get hit on the peak and am on my ass or laying down taking it all in.


LSD where mushrooms would be analog LSD is digital.  It can still be very spiritual but may not.  Its a drug thats all about you, your life, your perception, your fears, your pleasure, what your doing wrong what your doing right.  I like LSD visuals ALOT...  if you take enough you will see morphing of objects (think that scene in the matrix when he touches the mirror after taking the pill) breathing  of walls, wood grain is awesome.  The pattern in the wood grain melts and swirls and moves like water all around itself. A "matrix" or a grid of every color at the same time forms overlaying everything and has patterns in it, it waves and moves and sways and breaths and ripples. Nature is awesome seeing a bird fly by can look like 5 birds one after the other after the other in bright colors(tracers), you will notice all the geometry in nature and patterns and see fractals in tree leafs or bush's, or in stone walk way. Or if your lucky you may become an infinate fractal and experience ego death. 

    Music!  You can become the music. You can see music. Closed eyed visuals can be very geometric but also I have seen a woman belly dancing for me, I have flown through my mind while listening and experiencing the most amazing music I could fathom.  I have had religious visuals/experiences with my eyes closed in a meditative space.  I see a lot of single eyes look at me.  There are synchronicity that happen which just make you laugh because its just so absurd. 
  Oh and your sense of smell is heightened or you pay more attention to it.  You may smell a sound or see a smell.  I get a lot of saliva when on l.  Things can look like there melting, I had a nug melt through my hand once, text is hard to read because it swirls around like little electrons orbiting atoms. 
  But I can function better on L, like going to get a water, navigating a crowd at a concert, maintain some semblance of sobriety can be possible.  There is less of a head-fuck.  At times you can feel like even though your tripping your not.  Then you look at the sky and clouds are detailed picture of faces or angels or you look at you hand and it looks like all your veins are moving around under your skin.


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: Dawks]
    #14227448 - 04/02/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dawks said:
Duration

Shrooms: 6-8 hours
Acid: 8-12 hours

Shrooms are far shorter lasting than acid. Shrooms have one solid peak, as in you come up, feel it and then start cruising down. Acid can come in waves and if you're not ready for that you may think you're permafried and freak out :P




Bottom line

It's a lot harder to have a bad trip on shrooms and it can really prepare you for the psychedelic headspace. I'd say start with shrooms a couple of times and get a feel for them then try lucy and see how you go. If you love having a good time I'm sure you'll like lucy more - but if you're very spiritual/philosophical then shrooms may be your cup of tea... pun intended :crazy2:




Nice post, but I disagree with you with regards to the mushroom peak. In my experience, mushrooms can also come at you in waves of intensity (at least when eaten). I wonder if this effect has some pharmacological suggestion (i.e. as psilocin builds up in the synapse, more an more of it binds to serotonin receptors. But I think that maybe it's a bind-and-release t action, and as the concentration of psilocin builds, more of it binds and is released). Mind you, this is only my subjective experience. I wonder how those charts were made.

Also, a lot of people say that it's easier to have a bad trip on shrooms. Many people have said that shrooms can be confusing, or that "you don't do shrooms, shrooms do you." Then again, I have heard that the length alone of LSD can make you want it to be over much sooner than you start to come down. The key thing that needs to be remembered is, and I will repeat the mantra: set and setting. Be in a good frame of mind (not doubtful about what you are doing, not stressed or upset for example) and dose in a place where you feel safe and comfortable (and in good company, if having any).


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: pyl91]
    #14227645 - 04/02/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Its weird how that chart above shows a total come down from shrooms at like 9 hours but it doesn't  show a totaal come down from LSD. At 12 hours the line is still above the total come down point.


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #14228010 - 04/02/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would agree with Dawks' post for the most part, however I would say that it is much easier to have a bad trip on mushrooms than on LSD.

Perhaps I say that because most of my mushroom experiences have been on 3-4 grams, while my LSD trips have been predominately 2-3 tab experiences, with the higher doses (the highest being 4) being more recently, after having had plenty of experience with psychedelics.


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: Met]
    #14228597 - 04/02/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I haven't done LSD, but I have always heard from people that the trip is easier to control than mushrooms.


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: Dawks]
    #14229744 - 04/03/11 02:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dawks said:
Visuals

Shroom visuals are very hyperspace'esque, the visuals are like a slow version of DMT. Being in nature rocks too.



Acid visuals are crazy and weird. Acid seems to bring my imagination in to reality, and I will will see effects like in CGI films happing to regular objects. As well as fractals and all sorts of wonderful shit.







Haven't tried shrooms yet, but for me the LSD visuals were very close to the picture you got here for shroom visuals. Of course, I can't compare them, but lots of kaleidoscopic patterns, which is quite awesome, yet not many visuals concerning objects, mainly just lots of patterns, colors, and blobs of light (don't know how you call them, but when the lighting appears to be dynamic and moving around the room, this might be a synesthetic feeling, I don't know :laugh:). But that might change in the future experiences, as almost reaching level 4 trip is quite strong for a first timer, you don't even know what to look at :laugh:
One of the best things about lucy, contrary to what most people say, is the sheer length of the trip. Such an amazing experience lasting for so much, what's not to like, huh? :P


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: pyl91]
    #14231868 - 04/03/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Nice post, but I disagree with you with regards to the mushroom peak. In my experience, mushrooms can also come at you in waves of intensity (at least when eaten). I wonder if this effect has some pharmacological suggestion (i.e. as psilocin builds up in the synapse, more an more of it binds to serotonin receptors. But I think that maybe it's a bind-and-release t action, and as the concentration of psilocin builds, more of it binds and is released). Mind you, this is only my subjective experience. I wonder how those charts were made.

Also, a lot of people say that it's easier to have a bad trip on shrooms. Many people have said that shrooms can be confusing, or that "you don't do shrooms, shrooms do you." Then again, I have heard that the length alone of LSD can make you want it to be over much sooner than you start to come down. The key thing that needs to be remembered is, and I will repeat the mantra: set and setting. Be in a good frame of mind (not doubtful about what you are doing, not stressed or upset for example) and dose in a place where you feel safe and comfortable (and in good company, if having any).




IME the peak of a mushroom trip comes in waves every time.  I suppose this is subjective though.  I have always had better experiences with mushrooms.  I find it easier to get negative on LSD.  But, it is different for everyone.  I suggest that for a first trip, take about 1 gram of cubensis.  this will give you a taste of the psychedelic experience without overwhelming you.  It is much harder to segway into psychs with Lucy since it is difficult to determine what dosage you will get.


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14232825 - 04/03/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A moderate dose of shrooms... it should only be like a 6 hour experience as opposed to like 10-12 with LSD.

I love both, but mushrooms are MUCH kinder to me... even on ridiculous doses. To me they feel a lot more laid back, and relaxed... even as reality is being totally deconstructed around me it still feels like it's happening slowly, or at least on at a manageable pace. It's hard to describe but the experience just feels more laid back.

On the other hand... a high dose of LSD is just pure insanity. I'll be overwhelmed with waves of energy... my mind will be racing and I will be having a million thoughts a second. My heart will be beating out of my chest, I'll be sweating profusely. The pacing of an LSD trip just feels a lot more frantic and crazy for me.

Your experience may differ. :shrug: Most people I know have an easier time with LSD.


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: grizzlynick]
    #14234575 - 04/04/11 02:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

lsd has always been a breeze for me , ive never had more than 3 blotters at once or one microdot . always a fine experience . shrooms can "turn" on you without warning at moderate to high doses , the dreamy/delerious effects of shrooms can seem to be the opposite of the ability to focus the mind whilst on a decent hit of acid . the main worry with lucy is the "waves" that can be experienced on speed based and regular acid .


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Re: what is the difference between shrooms and acid [Re: atomicshaman]
    #14234753 - 04/04/11 03:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I honestly just eat shrooms or acid. Whatever I find is fine with me. :raveface:


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