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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #14224440 - 04/02/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I agree you would have to leave the U.S. I would only do this if I was looking at 10 years or more which I actually was at one point and South America did not sound like such a bad place to go. Of course you would have to completely start a new but chances are you would not get extradited back unless you committed murder.

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
    #14226109 - 04/02/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't think there is any way to stay in the states and not get caught.  Especially as technology progresses, and the system becomes tougher.  If they want you they will get you.  Every ten years the amount of technology that progresses is unreal.  At this rate you won't make it your whole life, and like said above, you'll do the time when you don't want to even more.


I thought about it a lot, but decided to pay the piper and move along afterwards.  The whole reason I wanted to run was to stay free, but you aren't free leaving everyone you know and looking over your shoulder all the time.


If you were to run, get fake Id.  Social security cards.  Find an ID that has tattoos ( if you dont have any this helps a lot ) and get tattoos that match those.  Whatever identity you take you must take it

New hair cut

New piercings

New tattoos

Change your figure, work out, lose weight, gain weight.

Dress differently, low key, workers man type, try to keep yourself casual.

Stay in houses that are not hot.  Don't kick it in your friend the dope mans house thinking youre safe.

If you go to another country make sure they don't do any finger prints to get in or out of the country.  If you think american jails are bad.....well you know it could be worse.


Like said above stay away at night time, stick to busy times and try to be on foot or on a bus.  I think busses are a good way to travel on the run, but you still run the risk of one getting stopped.


Don't call anyone you know, not even from a third party phone, your friends and family are likely to give up where you are by accident, or you will slip up.


If it's only your second offense, and its an F2 ( same as me but I have a lot more then that ), you will get it pled down.  You won't serve 12 years, and I won't serve 20.  Spend the time and the money to get a good lawyer, and get the best deal you can, and then if you go to prison, just make the best out of it.  I have had a lot of support from "convicts" that are trying to help me learn to make the best of a prison stay, and it seems it can be done.



In any case be careful.  It sounds like you were already sloppy enough to get caught twice, why try running on the third?  Then you def get maxxed out on the charges.




Great post man, and my thoughts are with you in the shit you're dealing with.  I live pretty close to you and it makes me feel ill when I imagine being in your shoes.  I really hope things work out better than you think.  It's crazy how much time has gone by and you've no idea what you're even looking at.  That is the shittiest mind-fuck ever. 

Technology has made everything impossible.  You can't get shit anymore without ID's, social security #, credit cards, etc... Like you said, in a decade or two there will be some fingerprint/optical scan bullshit to authenticate you at a Convenient store for a pack of smokes. 

The positive thing about doing time, and I'm just speculating from all the shit I watch on TV about prison (like Locked Up Abroad) and talking to ex-cons, is the immense appreciation for life after you get out.  Just like the scene in "Fight Club" where the store clerk has the gun to his head... the mundane shit that drives most people crazy will be a joke to you.  It'll be like being born again. 

Best wishes to everyone facing so much time for ridiculous drug offenses.  It's so fucking ignorant to me that possession of a drug can give someone so much time behind bars when assault, rape, and murder/manslaughter seem to carry such weak sentences in comparison (or equal).


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
    #14307631 - 04/17/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

fuuck the  police

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: ar1es]
    #14310832 - 04/18/11 08:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Alright..so

Firstly, I would listen to the many people who are saying that you can not stay in US. There are many countries the USA has no extradition treaties with. These countries are mostly shit holes, and an average westerner wouldn't survive there longer than 6-10 months imo.

The following countries DO NOT have extradition treaties with US.

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, China (People's Republic of China), the Union of the Comoros, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Cote d' Ivoire, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Jordan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Madagascar, the Maldives, Mali, the Marshall Islands, Mauritania, the Federated States of Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, the Russian Federation, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, Vanuatu, Vietnam, Yemen, and Zimbabwe.


If I lived in the states and was on the run, I would do the following:

Modify my appearance.

Get inked. Covering as much skin/facial area as reasonable. Gaining/losing weight is bloody stupid. Unless you're over or under don't fuck with the weight. A fugitive must stay healthier and in better shape than the law (duhhh?) in order to survive this ordeal.

Secondly, I would read as much outdoor survival literature as possible. The safest place is to be away from people, rather than blend in with the people.

I would purchase a crossbow (not a gun - you don't want to go into town to get ammo), machete, hatchet, small shovel, knife and any other applicable tools that would come in handy on a permanent camping trip.

Since I would consider staying in US to be stupid, my next step would probably be to figure out where is the best location to cross into Canada. There are 27 counties that share a land border with Canada...aiming for Manitoba/Saskatchewan would be good...I do know for a fact that you can just literally walk into Canada like it's nothing through Montana. I am sure that 98% of the entire border is the same.




Make your way to Ontario and camp out in the vast Boreal Forest.

That's what I would do, anyway.

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade]
    #14312092 - 04/18/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

@ op
I suggest you find or develop a new profession, because you clearly have a bad track record with getting caught. If I were in the business, the only way I would deal with someone like you is indirectly through a middle man.

Maybe you'll learn a few tricks in prison. I hear making drugs is "skilled work", so easy time.


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: maug]
    #14338104 - 04/23/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldn't expect extradition to be a problem as long as we are talking about relatively drug charges that don't involve large scale manufacturing.


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: 4896744]
    #14378119 - 04/30/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Statistics show that 1 out of 5 inmates get raped(or maybe it's just sexuslly assaulted).

Not sure if that is for state, federal, or both.

What I have heard from reliable sources is that if you're straight and you're willing to physically fight to stand up for yourself, you most likely wont be raped in a state prison(gang or no gang).  I've also heard that rape is unheard of in a lot of state prisons.

I've heard federal is worse and I would imagine that is where the 1 out of 5 statistic comes from.

1 out of 5 is probley the '19 year old virgin who got caught growing shrooms', 'drunkrn pastor that killed someone in a dui car accident', or 'bussiness man who involved himself with some illegal stock trading'....if any of 'these types' go to prison, they'll be much more likely to be raped(obviously) because they lack the understanding of the 'criminal element'.

OP, sorry, but you're a fuck up.  You got caught twice on serious charges.  I bet if you run, you'll fuck up and get caught quickly.

Get a good attotney(not court appointed), get it plead down, and you'll do your first(I bet not last) prison term, in a state prison.


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