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InvisibleAbstraKt_I_Am

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Dear Joe Molloy *DELETED* * 7
    #14225269 - 04/02/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Reason for deletion: Just want to move on. Let by gones be by gones.



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OfflineJoolz
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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14225274 - 04/02/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Who the fuck is Joe Molly? :justdontknow:


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InvisibleAbstraKt_I_Am

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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: Joolz]
    #14225287 - 04/02/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Joolz said:
Who the fuck is Joe Molly? :justdontknow:



go down and read the thread about the 9 gram trip and the guy no longer being athiest, you'll see who Im talking about.


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Offlinejvm
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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14225320 - 04/02/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Haha, goddamn right. I was reading the thread and getting angry.

He seems to have a bitterness to his experiences or lack there of on dmt. I don't know what you're searching for Joe, but i hope you are looking within. Trying to find meaning to everything out there and in your mind while on these things isn't where you should be looking, if you can't even find stability or some sort of peace within yourself.

After many experiences i've learned it's pointless to try to connect anything outwardly to try to find some ultimate meaning or truth. It just doesn't exist in this material world, and the electric world around us. Just be happy things are somewhat stable for you to even have such experiences. Once you are able to balance yourself inwardly and successfully ground yourself while still being unique in thought, heart and mind, then search outwards. But it won't be what you're expecting.

IF you haven't already joe, i would suggest ayahuasca. Smoking dmt to try to find your personal answers to something is like trying to read an entire book and quickly flipping through the pages, only vaguely getting a glance at what you're seeing.

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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14225322 - 04/02/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, yeah, that guy. Idk, I haven't read any of that thread except his one post about how he was chasing psychs and got bummed out because he didn't see what he wanted to see. Sounds like another case of another person not understanding that when you take mind altering drugs, your experiences are based on what you are feeling inside. Therefore, if you have pent up anger or sadness or whatever that is what you are going to feel. If you're a genuinely happy person and you just let the drug take ahold and go with it, you're gonna have a fun trip.

This is of course my opinion, and all spiritual mumbo-jumbo that he won't believe in, so I just skipped over him like dust in the wind.

"You're a stranger, so, what do I care?" :mjk:


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OfflineCynosure
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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: Joolz]
    #14225427 - 04/02/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The psychedelic experience really does make you susceptible to almost any input and I believe he let his mom influence his trips too much. :shrug:  ..but I don't know what else he expected to gain by calling his mom during the middle of his trips to "talk rationally" to him.  I feel that somehow he isn't sharing his own views, but rather relaying his mom's. :crazy2:

Either way, I don't mind reading his (or his mom's) opinions.  I don't think it's necessary for him to keep trying to convince everyone that all of the substances are "bullshit".  He tends to come off as a avid church-goer trying to convert the public.

Aside from that, a lot of his posts are very interesting and often do have good points.. so I say keep on doin' your thangs, joemolly. :thumbup:


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InvisibleAbstraKt_I_Am

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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: Cynosure]
    #14225478 - 04/02/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Cynosure said: He tends to come off as a avid church-goer trying to convert the public.

Aside from that, a lot of his posts are very interesting and often do have good points.. so I say keep on doin' your thangs, joemolly. :thumbup:




First, I agree with the latter (which is partially why I haven't said anything for a long time) on the condition he did alot less of the aforementioned.


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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14225622 - 04/02/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"DMT is bullshit"

:feelsweirdman: = joe


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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: HyperSpaceMaggot]
    #14225681 - 04/02/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No shit. My first few times with deems I fucked up, cause of coughing and being a n00b and all that good stuff. All it took was some good deems and one solid hit man, and I was in space. :feelshighman:


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Invisibleifoundwaldo


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Re: Dear Joe Molloy [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am] * 1
    #14225752 - 04/02/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ha. I love this thread. Joe Molloy is the most annoying poster ever. He's the only person that's made me think, "Ignore?"


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Invisiblejoemolloy
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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: Joolz] * 1
    #14225849 - 04/02/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys, sorry.  You are enlightened because you take this particular class of drugs.  DMT is a source of truth, mushrooms treat you with respect if you treat them with respect, and cactus is an ancient soul.  Jesus Christ rose from the dead, Muhammed met an angel, and if you believe, you inherit the kingdom.  Alcohol curiously though doesn't have a spirit.  Neither does the coca plant.  This is perplexing.  Only certain plants and drugs have spirit.

My mom influenced me about drugs?  She is an open-minded woman in her sixties who smoked changa with me, and asked me to give my dad both a shroom trip and an oral DMT trip to help him with some issues.  I hope your mom is as open-minded about drugs.  The fact that she talked me out of some delusions/strange ideas that I was having is a testament to her love.  She never tells me what to do, only gives her observations and her thoughts.  Who do you bounce your psychedelic ideas off of?  Hopefully someone who loves you and someone who is rational.

Do these drugs have the potential to be habit forming?  Never.  Nevermind the fact that many of this forum are regular users of these drugs and are chasing something intangible.  Some call it enlightenment, some feel it is ineffable, and others are a bit more honest and say Hey its all about euphoria. 

Do these drugs have the potential to turn you into a superstitious version of your previous self?  That's what it seems happens to a great deal of users.

I still trip, but some of the shit I read on this forum is superstitious nonsense.  I reject it.  You can believe it, or you can hate me for calling bullshit on your mystical excuses to get fucked up.

Keep chasing it.  You'll find it.  Bring the hate because I am the brainwashed churchgoer and you are oh-so-free.  We're all slaves to it, but I don't pretend I am free.  You do.

If I bring critical thought, rational thinking, and logic to a trip thread and you feel insulted or threatened or pissed, I take it as a compliment.  I'm just saying what you already know deep down.  I'm saying what the intelligent part of you has buried.  I'm saying what these drugs and your psyche have twisted into submission.


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Invisibleifoundwaldo


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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: joemolloy]
    #14225857 - 04/02/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I reject your critical thought, rational thinking, and logic, sir. You can believe it. :tongue:


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OfflineHyperSpaceMaggot
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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: joemolloy]
    #14225864 - 04/02/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The issue here joe is you are trying to force your reality on everyone else. You are trying to tell people they are wrong. Youre dmt is bullshit theory explains a lot. All you say is purely opinion based.  Your mom doesnt have anything to do with this.


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Invisiblejoemolloy
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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: HyperSpaceMaggot]
    #14225870 - 04/02/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Isn't it implied that everything on these forums is an opinion?  So if I prefaced every statement with "In my opinion" all would be well with the shroomery?  Bullshit.  You are pissed because I question your psychedelic religion.


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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: joemolloy]
    #14225894 - 04/02/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think you can't handle psychedelics. You are not mentally stable.
My religion is the church of Christ.


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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: joemolloy]
    #14225900 - 04/02/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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joemolloy said:
Isn't it implied that everything on these forums is an opinion?  So if I prefaced every statement with "In my opinion" all would be well with the shroomery?  Bullshit.  You are pissed because I question your psychedelic religion.




You're in the wrong forum if that's what you are here to do. Everyone here is on PSYCHADELIC drugs. If we wanted to have someone tell us how we're chasing nothing (which what the fuck are you chasing, a materialistic life? Have fun with that after death) we would go tell some shrink or go talk to some church goers.

Seriously man, if all you are here is to give us your sober, "no bullshit, I see through the lies" opinion, then really, we don't need it. There are plenty of other people who already spew their filth on our party.


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Invisiblejoemolloy
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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: joemolloy] * 1
    #14225937 - 04/02/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, so if my opinion were that DMT brings divinity, shrooms allow access to the Big Bang, and cactus provides a doorway to the subconscious, then I would be welcomed with open arms, right?  Right.  As long as I agree with the mysticism of the drug-addled mind, then my posts have value.

See the problem with your thinking?  Bottom line - My ideas threaten you.  That's fucking powerful shit right there. Explore it, don't hate it.


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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: joemolloy]
    #14225950 - 04/02/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

joemolloy said:
Oh, so if my opinion were that DMT brings divinity, shrooms allow access to the Big Bang, and cactus provides a doorway to the subconscious, then I would be welcomed with open arms, right?  Right.  As long as I agree with the mysticism of the drug-addled mind, then my posts have value.

See the problem with your thinking?  Bottom line - My ideas threaten you.  That's fucking powerful shit right there. Explore it, don't hate it.




Your ideas do not threaten me. You sitting in your chair in whatever part of this globe has little to no effect on me outside of this spew that I read from your fingers. Honestly, did you read my post? If we wanted people to come down here and talk to us with the sober, science, materialistic viewpoint, WE COULD GO FUCKING OUTSIDE AND FIND SOMEBODY TO TALK TO.

Realize this. I'm not hating, I'm trying to get you to understand that you aren't welcome here, but the trick is, nobody is short on people with the sober, materialistic viewpoint. They're fucking everywhere. You probably just don't realize it because you're one of them.


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Invisiblejoemolloy
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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: jvm]
    #14225986 - 04/02/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

jvm said:
Haha, goddamn right. I was reading the thread and getting angry.

He seems to have a bitterness to his experiences or lack there of on dmt. I don't know what you're searching for Joe, but i hope you are looking within. Trying to find meaning to everything out there and in your mind while on these things isn't where you should be looking, if you can't even find stability or some sort of peace within yourself.

After many experiences i've learned it's pointless to try to connect anything outwardly to try to find some ultimate meaning or truth. It just doesn't exist in this material world, and the electric world around us. Just be happy things are somewhat stable for you to even have such experiences. Once you are able to balance yourself inwardly and successfully ground yourself while still being unique in thought, heart and mind, then search outwards. But it won't be what you're expecting.

IF you haven't already joe, i would suggest ayahuasca. Smoking dmt to try to find your personal answers to something is like trying to read an entire book and quickly flipping through the pages, only vaguely getting a glance at what you're seeing.




I realized after years of doing psychedelics that all drug taking behavior boils down to seeking pleasure.  Even if one hopes for a painful experience, they believe in the long run that it will ultimately bring pleasure.  Oneness with the universe, divinity, and all the rest of the excuses boil down to feeling good.  It's jerking off.  Psychedelics are masturbation - that's a fucking insight that pisses people off.  The only problem with them is that they are inconsistent and often lead to bad trips which is why the honeymoon soon ends many just smoke weed instead.  I feel integration is just rationalization to continue to ingest these substances.  I'm not angry, I'm a New Yorker with a shit sarcastic attitude and a damn accurate bullshit detector.


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Invisiblejoemolloy
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Re: Dear Joe Molly [Re: Joolz]
    #14226002 - 04/02/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Joolz said:
Quote:

joemolloy said:
Oh, so if my opinion were that DMT brings divinity, shrooms allow access to the Big Bang, and cactus provides a doorway to the subconscious, then I would be welcomed with open arms, right?  Right.  As long as I agree with the mysticism of the drug-addled mind, then my posts have value.

See the problem with your thinking?  Bottom line - My ideas threaten you.  That's fucking powerful shit right there. Explore it, don't hate it.




Your ideas do not threaten me. You sitting in your chair in whatever part of this globe has little to no effect on me outside of this spew that I read from your fingers. Honestly, did you read my post? If we wanted people to come down here and talk to us with the sober, science, materialistic viewpoint, WE COULD GO FUCKING OUTSIDE AND FIND SOMEBODY TO TALK TO.

Realize this. I'm not hating, I'm trying to get you to understand that you aren't welcome here, but the trick is, nobody is short on people with the sober, materialistic viewpoint. They're fucking everywhere. You probably just don't realize it because you're one of them.





The difference between me and them is that I take these drugs and I love them.  I'm honest about them and in PM's many users have thanked me for my insights and told me that I am one of the only rational voices on this forum.  A rational drug user?  Uncommon, I know.


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