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Re: Defatting Mescaline Tar [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #14933389 - 08/16/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
You would know this sedating alkaloid if you smelled it. Pure mescaline has almost no smell, actually... This stuff has a strong, spicy smell, and believe it or not it makes coffee taste amazing. Weird shit...




Hmm, interesting indeed. When using 69-ron's tek with hcl to salt (in a much more dilute concentration than suggested on the wiki page) out the mescaline I was able to get some mostly white crystalline powder until the 4 or 5th time through the cycle in which I ended up with some more tannish powder. I ended up mixing all the white and tan together because I've been comfortable in the past with teas and resins which are most certainly the full shebang.

The powder definitely has an odor to it, not incredibly strong, but it is noticeable.

About 400 mg had me layed out on my couch or bed for a good 75% of the trip. It felt really nice to just lay down and curl up with a pillow. You're saying if I did an acetone wash on this material it would be a bit more lively? Like maybe able to get up and socialize?

I mean it was still great, fantastic, with the "sedating alkaloids" but damn at certain points I didn't have a chance at peeling myself off the couch.. I was melted


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Re: Defatting Mescaline Tar [Re: floatingwater]
    #14934722 - 08/16/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If I were fucking with hydrochloric acid, there would be no way in hell I would consume the final product without washing it first. HCL has created some awful feelings in my stomach before...

But yeah, if you do the acetone wash on the mesc HCL, you will remove a good deal of the alkaloid but not all of it. For some reason, acetone doesn't dissolve all of this alkaloid in HCL form. They suggest washing a few times with freezing anhydrous acetone, then repeating the process with freezing 99% IPA to remove the residual alkaloid.

And this is mostly just a weird preference thing, though I do think this sedating alkaloid masks some of the psychedelic effects of the mescaline. After years of taking brews, trying extracts, and just experimenting I became a bit of a mescaline connoisseur I guess...

I do think anyone would notice the difference though - and once you've had some seriously pure mescaline, there is no going back.


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Re: Defatting Mescaline Tar [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #14939929 - 08/17/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well, it was pretty damn psychedelic as it was unwashed. Maybe more in the visual sense than in the mental sense. My mental processes on mescaline/cacti have always been way more in line with the phenethylamine signature effects of empathy and lovey dovey, caring about everything and everyone type stuff.. with some far out cosmic spatial thinking mixed in for good measure..

And yeah, hcl salts have definitely crunched out my stomach a bit.. never to the point where I've puked (so far) but every time I get very uncomfortable in the stomach and I just kind of half to ride it out. I'm curious to see if washing it would alleviate that side effect. I have heard that mescaline is kind of nauseating even when pure though, so who knows?


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Re: Defatting Mescaline Tar [Re: floatingwater]
    #18736818 - 08/21/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

anyone else try to defat the san pedro tar this method?

I am curious to know how much vinegar i should mix into how much water


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Re: Defatting Mescaline Tar [Re: detest86]
    #18739005 - 08/21/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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joemolloy said:
Perform a classic A/B on the tar.  Add water to it, base it, add xylene or orange oil, separate the xylene or orange oil and salt it with your favorite acetic solution.  Repeat a few times and evaporate your acetic solution.

These extractions kind of suck all the energy, beauty, and fullness out of a cactus trip.  Some people say that's because all the other alkaloids are left behind, but I think a lot of the mescaline is left behind because these extractions suck even at high doses.





This is good advice. If you're referring to your original post and how much vinegar you need to add it probably doesn't matter. No specifics are given so its probably not that important. Like I mentioned in one of the posts following your original post, I think the splash of vinegar is just to help dissolve the tar into water and also to keep the pH low so none of the mescaline ions migrate into the non polar solvent. If you read back upon your own posts in this thread you mention that you found another forum that recommended adding enough vinegar to drop the pH to 4. Go get yourself some cheapo pH papers from amazon or whatever and add a few drops of vinegar to your mixture at a time and keep testing until you reach 4. Simple as that. But really, joemolloy's advice is probably better.

Damn this thread is 2 and a half years old! I haven't messed around with mescaline in a long while!


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