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Drug War Speech for College
    #14222657 - 04/01/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hello everyone,
I am giving a speech at my college in a few days, on the war on drugs and how it has failed. Also will talk about home invasions by police and a comparison of the drugs the Rx companies push compared to our drug. I would love any suggestions people have about topics or facts i can bring up in my presentation, visual aids are good too cause I have a powerpoint. Thanks everyone!


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: fungusfriends]
    #14222718 - 04/01/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: Konyap]
    #14222728 - 04/01/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: fungusfriends]
    #14222736 - 04/01/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hi.  I spoke about Marijuana Prohibition in my college a while ago.

Some things you can bring up:

Cost of the War on Drugs,    Drugs being illegal keeping 'gangs' in business- analogy for this could be alcohol prohibtion, the amount of revenue the U.S. would take in yearly for legalizing drugs- which is a huge number from what i remember, Number of non-violent offenders in jail, if you talk about marijuana specifically there are a lot of good arguments there- for just cannabis alone over 800,000 people are arrested every year- it is easier for kids to get it than adults with its current illegal status, cannabis is safer than cigarettes and alcohol- i.e. you can't overdose from cannabis, the government spends millions every year raiding medical cannabis shops/facilities- is this really were our tax dollars should be going?


Just some ideas off the top of my head.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: skatealex2]
    #14222759 - 04/01/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: Konyap]
    #14223357 - 04/01/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I believe drug laws should not be more harmful than the drug itself for sure. As I mentioned in an ODD post catch all laws like the analog act are anti-harm reduction! It would sure be a lot safer if vendors could send out pre-weighed doses, discuss effects, contradictions, etc.

I'm a libertarian, I believe that the Federal Government has FAR too much power. I see this failure called the war on drugs as a very large federal overreach. It makes my blood boil to think of all the wasted human lives and money over the decades and have people stopped using drugs?! NO! The desire to experiment with your own consciousness is a natural human urge; there are even animals out there that seek out and consume psychoactive material. Have we learned nothing from alcohol prohibition? All the government manages to do with this "war on drugs" is enrich criminals and destroy innocent lives. They put people at risk because of the nature of the black market (impure drugs, unknown doses, misrepresented chemicals: pipes/meth instead of MDMA, fentanyl or other potent opiate misrepresented as H, I could go on and on).

All prohibition does is enrich criminal organizations! Alcohol prohibition made the mob- the Kennedy family too :tongue2:! No, but seriously in case anyone isn't paying attention at all there is right now war raging in Mexico. One that is spilling over across our borders by the way... Funded by drug money!

All they would need to do is legalize pot and that would take the wind out of their sails real quick. Sure, the cartels sell other drugs but pot plays a big role. They could even (they shouldn't and I HATE sin taxes) but they could tax it; it is always about the money. The Government (states and federal) makes soooo much money off of cigarette taxes it isn't even funny. In Illinois they just lifted a ban on smoking in their casinos. It is always about the money. Oh, and did I mention that Hamas and Hezbollah are collaborating with the cartel? I'm sure it is because they REALLLY love drugs, right :rolleyes:?

Unfortunately, I do not foresee the "drug war" ending anytime soon. The DEA is a large government bureaucracy and those NEVER go away once created. Too much money involved, besides, where would the pols place their unemployable friends/relatives? Shoot, the FCC was created to regulate Western Union; have you sent or received any telegrams lately? Thought not. Yet, here it is. It seems like with every new administration the government grows larger and larger. It grows more powerful and more expensive! Forget spending away our future, or even the next generations. At this rate our grandchildren and great-grandchildren will be paying the price.

Sorry for the rant, I get pretty passionate about this sort of thing because I love my country and I also am a firm believer in common sense; I like to help people, I like to try to see the best in people, and generally try to do the right thing. I feel that people are fundamentally good, people just tend to get jaded or whatever.  There is just SO MUCH greed and corruption around and it just seems to get worse and worse as time goes on. Not to mention that the media just loves to smear people that think like me; they don't dare debate (and I mean truly, truly discuss not just rattle off talking points) the issues because they know it wouldn't go well for them.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: setb]
    #14223746 - 04/01/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow thanks everyone! This is some good material, its actually pretty sad how easy it is to find information about why this is failing, and yet its like the suits in DC somehow manage to miss all of it  :facepalm3:


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: fungusfriends]
    #14223761 - 04/01/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

easy

they dont have any real power

its all bout $$$


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: fungusfriends]
    #14223820 - 04/01/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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fungusfriends said:
Hello everyone,
I am giving a speech at my college in a few days, on the war on drugs and how it has failed. Also will talk about home invasions by police and a comparison of the drugs the Rx companies push compared to our drug. I would love any suggestions people have about topics or facts i can bring up in my presentation, visual aids are good too cause I have a powerpoint. Thanks everyone!




I'd like to say that topic has been done to death, but research all the innocent deaths that have occurred during drug raids.

As an example, here in Richmond VA, an officer fired a breaching round to knock down a door of a suspected drug dealer. That round ended up killing a 15 year old girl that was just at the house, had no connection to the guy that was selling a bit of weed. She was either right behind or about to open the door when the breaching round was fired (it's supposed to be powdered metal discs that blow out door hinges). Anyways, she was murdered buy the police and despite a lawsuit, the officer involved never had any consequences for taking an innocent life. Her autopsy toxicology showed no alcohol or any other illegal substances in her system.

Just another tragic war on drugs.

Fuckin tragic.

And on top of that (I might be wrong) but they only found a few grams of coke and a quarter pound of cannabis in the house.

This happened years ago, maybe 15 or more. Poor girl and her family.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14223933 - 04/01/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes exactly it has been done to death, I bet the teachers have a big :rolleyes: when another stoner gets up talking about drugs/drug policy in class.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #14224014 - 04/01/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Don't give your opinion. Be factual ONLY.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #14224058 - 04/01/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yes exactly it has been done to death, I bet the teachers have a big :rolleyes: when another stoner gets up talking about drugs/drug policy in class.




Yep... The best advice anyone could give you if you are actually looking for the best grade possible, would be "Do NOT write your paper/give a speach about drug laws!"

Professors fucking hate it, 90% of the classes they teach have some little druggy spouting off the same old same old about legalization and why the drug war is failing.  Some professors will outright fail you just for writing about it, but those professors typically tell you before hand.

Source: 6 professors I've personally taken classes from. (Every professor I've had a class with that had writing assignments in which it was even a potential topic to write about)  Two of which threatened to fail anyone who wrote on the topic.  The first professor told me I did a good job writing it but that he was sick and tired of grading those types of papers so he gave me a fuckin B.  And that was without warning.  And no, there is nothing you can do about that.  Your "free speech" is worthless in a college class. So think twice about using this topic if you want a good grade, and know your teacher well before you do.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: RipVanWinkle]
    #14224921 - 04/02/11 07:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well, i can either give it about a topic i actually care about, or i can just do stupid bullshit topics like all the other kids haha but i know what you mean. And i already talked to my teacher about it, she thinks its awesome, but she is a graduate teacher thats like a year older than me so she's pretty chill


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: fungusfriends]
    #14224979 - 04/02/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

a really interesting topic would be how the perspectives on illegal drugs and the drug war has shifted immensely in the last 20 years. i personally know plenty of people in their 20's and 30's (no, i do not hang out with a bunch of stoners) who could give two shits less about herb and other drugs and think it's absolutely retarded that it's illegal.

obviously, these aren't "facts", just hearsay. but i'm sure there are studies out there that talk directly about how illegal drugs are viewed by the younger generation.

as Americans trust their government less and less, they inadvertently end up taking drug laws less seriously because they do not trust the source of those laws.

the thing i often wonder is who will be the ones sustaining the current drug mythology 20 years from now? i don't know anyone in my age bracket (20-30) with any desire to carry the current drug paradigm into the future.

anyway, just a few thoughts. good luck on the speech.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: RipVanWinkle]
    #14224981 - 04/02/11 07:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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RipVanWinkle said:
Quote:

PeterGriffin467 said:
Yes exactly it has been done to death, I bet the teachers have a big :rolleyes: when another stoner gets up talking about drugs/drug policy in class.




Yep... The best advice anyone could give you if you are actually looking for the best grade possible, would be "Do NOT write your paper/give a speach about drug laws!"

Professors fucking hate it, 90% of the classes they teach have some little druggy spouting off the same old same old about legalization and why the drug war is failing.  Some professors will outright fail you just for writing about it, but those professors typically tell you before hand..





I can understand you feeling this way, but its just not true for every professor, especially in my experience. Just last term I gave a speech on marijuana prohibition in my ethics class. Based on sitting through this womans lectures for 10 weeks one would guess that she wouldn't give a shit about weed legalization because she was pretty conservative in all her views. 

Well after class she approached me asking if it was okay to make a copy of my paper to use as an example in her future classes and even had me sign it and write a note on it to say that it was okay for her to show it to other students. :kenthumbup:

She is not at the school this term because she was diagnosed with cancer, I bet she would love for our state of ohio to have medical marijuana to help her through the pain! :happyweed:

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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: Equipto]
    #14225099 - 04/02/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

One of these...


Why would anyone get sent to prison for something they bought at the store?



Is the question young people will ask when marijuana is legal.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: LoveOverAll]
    #14225337 - 04/02/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why would anyone get sent to prison for something they bought at the store?





People get sent to prison for things they can buy at a store all the time. Alcohol and firearms.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: fungusfriends]
    #14225375 - 04/02/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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well, i can either give it about a topic i actually care about, or i can just do stupid bullshit topics like all the other kids haha but i know what you mean. And i already talked to my teacher about it, she thinks its awesome, but she is a graduate teacher thats like a year older than me so she's pretty chill




Yeah grad teachers are usually pretty nice and more open to things as with most of the younger generation.  I had a physics lab ga that was super awesome and I bet you (although I have no concrete proof) he's a hippie (long ponytail and beard combo).  Good luck on the paper.  Wish I would've been more knowledgable when I took speech to have done one of mine on these type topics.


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Re: Drug War Speech for College [Re: fungusfriends]
    #14228910 - 04/02/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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well, i can either give it about a topic i actually care about, or i can just do stupid bullshit topics like all the other kids haha but i know what you mean. And i already talked to my teacher about it, she thinks its awesome, but she is a graduate teacher thats like a year older than me so she's pretty chill




I understand where you're coming from, I would much rather do a paper I was interested in over a paper that I wasn't interested in, obviously :lol: But sometimes you gotta make sacrifices for good grades, if you're wanting to really make good grades and gtf on towards classes that actually pertain to your field of work and that are actually interesting.

But that's awesome that your prof approves of the paper, not many do.  Like the poster recently said, some don't care and some love papers written on the subject, but from my experience and the experience of most of the people I've talked to, "drug papers" (in basic composition or speech classes anyways) are generally a over-used topic and you will be hard pressed to find info that the teacher has NOT been burnt out on.  That's why I suggested always asking the teacher before you commit to it.  But it seems you already have, so :borat: to you!  :lol:


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