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munchiegreen
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First Monotub Grow
#14221774 - 04/01/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright, went out today and bought some new supplies for my monotub bulk grow. Wanted yall to tell me if everything looks ok:
 Here's my pin as of today I am planning on cloning and taking prints from my cakes for my bulk grow.
 18 gallon all grey tupperware container (Is all grey ok?)

 Here's what I am going to spawn to. Not sure if it's the right type
 Wild Bird Seed
 Will this type work? Couldn't find the one thats red.
 Look good to yall? I still don't know how I am going to drill the holes in my monotub yet. Also haven't figured out my ratios yet so if anyone has any experience with 18 gallon mono's I'm open to any advice.
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everything looks ok- befor you think about spawning- what ratio are you going to use? the answer to that question will tell you pretty much what TEK to use, how many fully colonized jars are you going to have? i use a modified 50/50 coir TEK- works great for mono`s. if this is your first time growing dont modified anything, keep everything straight forward so you know what to expect and know how to correct problems if encountered. remember to be clean, clean, clean and wear a dust mask. you can cut your holes with a razor knife if you dont have a hole saw- no one will know but you!
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shroomiin
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What type of seeds in the WBS? i noticed it says "more sunflower", which is not idea. I see milo and not much millet in there..
I know pennington's brand works well, they sell huge buckets of it at wallmart for 10 bucks. I go to my local food market and buy "organic wild bird seed" from the bulk food section. It has a lot of millet in there, some milo, and minimal sunflower. it works well!
they grey tub will work but you need a clear top for light. clear tubs also let in more light overall im assuming, i don't know if it makes a noticable difference in yield. the coir is the right kind.
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Hopefully I will have eight colonized bird seed jars. I'll return the birdseed then thanks. Planning on cutting the lid and placing Plexiglas in the hole So would you recommend returning it and buying a clear one? What ratio do yall suggest? Ill be researching a lot more while my mushies grow, just trying to get a good idea and get everything organized.
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munchiegreen
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Probably going to do something close to Damion's elementary coir tek
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Sorry for posting again. I am going to do a 1:2 ratio which is 1 brick coir + 2 quarts verm and 5 quarts spawn and that should give me around a 4" substrate correct? Also, how do you know where to cut the holes? 4 holes located on the two sides but how far from the bottom(4inches?) and how far from the top?
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top holes dont matter...I do 2" holes a few inches from the top, the bottom holes need to be right near the top of the casing layer to allow the co2 to seep out, and gets some good airflow once your trying to fruit.
The only reason i would use a non-seethrough bin is if i were trying to hide the contents. Otherwise i would use a clear one. make sure you use a bgarbage bag or somehting to tape off the sides of the substrate. If you want a dark bin, keep it but i would find a clear lid that fits and use that. cutting out plexiglass is too hard and overcomplicates things
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Re: First Monotub Grow [Re: shroomiin]
#14222392 - 04/01/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok, so I can just kinda guesstimate around 4-5inches from the bottom? Yeah, I'm not hiding anything ill get a clear tub just don't think I saw an 18 gallon one. While it's colonizing do you just duck tape your holes and then when introducing to fruiting you just stuff with polyfill? Do you put a bottom layer? Or just place spawn on the bottom. I'm so undeceive!!!
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shroomiin
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yea, tape the holes during colonization, polyfil to fruit. i put a bottome layer of substrate, then the spawn, then more sub, mix it up good then i sprinkle a lil more spawn on top.
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Re: First Monotub Grow [Re: shroomiin]
#14226124 - 04/02/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok sounds good. All clear tubs are hard to find. This is my best option I think I'm just going to put lights on both sides and not directly above.

This guys getting huge still amazes me every time I look at it.
 The tub is 70qts 26 1/4"X 16 1/4"X 14 3/8" Can someone explain figuring out the ratios for me. Or give me a link that explains it well? Thanks
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Nevermind figured it out. I looked at the perlite through the holes that are below the perlite and some of it is turning orange right at the holes. Don't know if its normal or not.
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shroomiin
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yeah that is normal.
but as for the lights, i would really look for a clear top, as the mushies will grow towards the light and if you want a nice full cannopy of boomers you should have your light up top
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Re: First Monotub Grow [Re: shroomiin]
#14226621 - 04/02/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dam I was thinking about that, but the only tubs that had clear tops were really small or shoe boxes. I saw a guy with that glad grip wrap crap for his lid sounds sketch though. Think I'm going to have try plexiglas hope it's not too much of a pain
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not sure if you are making a massive SGFC or doing a mono... talking about perlite and showing pics of cakes...  nvm: mono... I fail at reading sometimes.
here is a thread about colonizing strategies for tubs. lots of good debate about taping/bagging/poly. feel free to skip over all the emotional bullshit pages
your WBS is fine if you don't feel like returning it. you can strain out a lot of the sunF seeds because they will end up floating during the soak. I leave the sunF seeds with no problems... not sure why people think they are so bad, but suit yourself
on your ratios, you want about 20-25% of the total volume of your tub taken up by the substrate. for a 70qt tub, you'll ideally have more than 5qt of spawn. 7x actual qts (not 7x shoulder high spawn jars) would be better IMO. if you don't have them ready this time, it will likely just increase your colonization time. 3-4" substrate is fine... proper water content is more important than depth
the "standard" for ~60qt mono is 6-7 actual quarts of spawn for about 11-13qts of substrate. mostly hpoo if you can get it and properly pasteurize, which are both a lot easier than I thought before trying them. people with horses are glad to have others asking to take their 
here's some links you might find useful if you decide to get some hpoo. if mostly coir/verm, I saw you already know about damion's 50/50 mostly hpoo sub hpoo/coir/verm/gypsum
platic wrap and plexi are both a pain, but if you don't have a clear lid... whatever works good luck with it!
Edited by Primal Call (04/02/11 03:43 PM)
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munchiegreen
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Yeah my bad I'm all over the place ,but thanks that thread has a ton of info.
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