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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: zorbman]
    #14322085 - 04/20/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Zorb, unfortunately you are right

Zip, you have my condolences


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #14322584 - 04/20/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn:

I guess one thing people could be doing is watching the money. Where has it been, where is going now, and if already gone, where is it now? I would surmise that if there were a big risk of this proverbial "straw-and-camels-back," someone else who's more powerful than any of us would already be aware and taking damage control measures, IE- migrating toward stability and safety. But if all are fools then no one hears "God's" message to "Noah." I guess it IS kinda like a cinema if you have no voice, which we don't. We don't have the money.

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Oh well, we got's the seed though! Food, like water, is invaluable. Either you have it, or you don't. :cheers:

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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: Asante]
    #14322629 - 04/20/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Allegedly the San Francisco Bay area got hit by 18,000x the EPA limit of radioactive iodine and there is going to be significant radioactivity accumulating on US farmland.

Take an iodine supplement every day for the coming 6 months to a year. Health food store kelp will help.

If its really as bad as projected here, yes this WILL be the trigger event.




I have to call bullshit.  I tried watching the video... that lady seems crazy, and nothing is substantiated.
There are tons of universities in socal, right? I'm imagining lots of government too.  Radiation is not hard, or all that expensive to detect... and you know a lot of people were most likely watching.  There is just no way that could be covered up, seriously..


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: fall]
    #14322669 - 04/20/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:

Allegedly the San Francisco Bay area got hit by 18,000x the EPA limit of radioactive iodine and there is going to be significant radioactivity accumulating on US farmland.

Take an iodine supplement every day for the coming 6 months to a year. Health food store kelp will help.

If its really as bad as projected here, yes this WILL be the trigger event.




I have to call bullshit.  I tried watching the video... that lady seems crazy, and nothing is substantiated.
There are tons of universities in socal, right? I'm imagining lots of government too.  Radiation is not hard, or all that expensive to detect... and you know a lot of people were most likely watching.  There is just no way that could be covered up, seriously..





Careful not to throw out the baby with the bath water. The biosphere is a system, a very complex one. I would like to imagine that Wiccan's phrophetic short-hand was more in relation to the systemics behind the introduction of radioactive  Iodine-131 than to the direct impact it will have only on the USA. I could be wrong, I have been wrong in the past :cheers:

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie-Roll Tootsie-Pop? Don't know, we might find out though...


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #14322934 - 04/20/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sounds like ya got the sniffles to me brah, yur gonna make it :highfive:


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14322975 - 04/20/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:highfive:


So, is this thread death?


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14323327 - 04/20/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:

Allegedly the San Francisco Bay area got hit by 18,000x the EPA limit of radioactive iodine and there is going to be significant radioactivity accumulating on US farmland.

Take an iodine supplement every day for the coming 6 months to a year. Health food store kelp will help.

If its really as bad as projected here, yes this WILL be the trigger event.




I have to call bullshit.  I tried watching the video... that lady seems crazy, and nothing is substantiated.
There are tons of universities in socal, right? I'm imagining lots of government too.  Radiation is not hard, or all that expensive to detect... and you know a lot of people were most likely watching.  There is just no way that could be covered up, seriously..





Careful not to throw out the baby with the bath water. The biosphere is a system, a very complex one. I would like to imagine that Wiccan's phrophetic short-hand was more in relation to the systemics behind the introduction of radioactive  Iodine-131 than to the direct impact it will have only on the USA. I could be wrong, I have been wrong in the past :cheers:

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie-Roll Tootsie-Pop? Don't know, we might find out though...




Here is the most legit looking thing I've found:
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/RainWaterSampling
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For example, in the rain water we collected in 18 hours between March 17 and March 18 we observe an activity of the isotope of I-131 (Iodine-131) of 4.26 Bq/l. At this level, you would need to drink 632 liters of this rain water to obtain the same radiation effects you obtain on a round-trip flight between San Francisco and Washington D.C. Therefore, the increase in radiation levels in the rain water due to the events in Japan remain extremely small.




I can even kinda understand not reporting this in the mass media, if the risk really is that small, putting anything about contaminated drinking water into the news would do more harm than good imo..


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: fall]
    #14323525 - 04/20/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:gethigh:

I would guess that's going to be all that we'll hear out of the institutions, though it's the mind of the people who will have the last word. There is usually always a kind of social-precipitation effect when mass contamination of the environment and mass media are involved (IE-American BP oil spill phenomenon.) Even when there's contradictory evidence , when people have bias in their minds they seem to like talking about "it" and relating  "it" to other people who may or not assimilate said bias as their own - then begin to act. As the ball gets rolling it becomes much more substantial, if you dig. The fiscal impact could still be gathering, I have no idea at all. All this comes at a time when global markets are wavering. We'll see I guess. Though if I bet, I would bet for the markets.

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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14330598 - 04/21/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well the slow production of Japan atm has made an increase in Korean auto production. I see so many Hyundai's and Kia's around. It's like the new Toyota Corolla's. Sonata for hyundai for example. I think it'll give opportunities for other countries seeing that Japan pretty much dominated auto production before the incident.


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: TheThirdEye]
    #14332730 - 04/22/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, sure, keep whistling past the graveyard. It works every time.

Greece almost pulled down the eu which is why they had to bail them and portugal out. Japan is (was) the worlds third largest economy. They make greece look like a minnow next to a dolphin. And people are saying it won't hurt a bit if japan falls and might help. Let me know how things are going in a year or so.

Meanwhile, the dazed and confused administration is belatedly recognizing that the deficit must be cut and not just speeches made. Hooray! but their actions are feeble at best. Even the repubs seem reluctant to do what is needed. We need major surgery or the economy is going into a tailspin. And if that happens, it will not be good for the rest of the world. We are in crisis stage and people are going on about their business like nothing is wrong. We have our recession, next comes de___ who can fill in the blank?


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #14360997 - 04/27/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's starting to get interesting now! It seems almost credible that the Japan incident will have precipitating effects upon the global economy. From what I've read, the Japanese economy is at a dead-stop. That will show up in economy. Whether or not things get serious enough to start war-waging, time will tell. It's too early in the game to say anything with certainty.


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14367222 - 04/28/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The nuke crisis in japan seems to be getting worse rather than better. They are evacuating people even farther away and some say that is not enough. The quake and tsunami have shut down just about everything. We have japanese car factories in this country that are going to be shut down for lack of parts. Just about every country has some of those and it makes a difference. That's more people out of work, less taxes and revenue coming in. What do we do if (when) they ask for help and we can't give it? What happens if the yen starts to nose dive in value?

Another angle is the radioactive material being put out in the air and water. Much of that is going into the sea. Small amounts have shown up on usa west coast. Fish anyone? They already have a partial meltdown. This is not good

I hear the ancient near mt vesuvius went about their business right up until the big eruption that covered everything in lava.


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #14367315 - 04/28/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The nuke crisis in japan seems to be getting worse rather than better. They are evacuating people even farther away and some say that is not enough. The quake and tsunami have shut down just about everything. We have japanese car factories in this country that are going to be shut down for lack of parts. Just about every country has some of those and it makes a difference. That's more people out of work, less taxes and revenue coming in. What do we do if (when) they ask for help and we can't give it? What happens if the yen starts to nose dive in value?

Another angle is the radioactive material being put out in the air and water. Much of that is going into the sea. Small amounts have shown up on usa west coast. Fish anyone? They already have a partial meltdown. This is not good

I hear the ancient near mt vesuvius went about their business right up until the big eruption that covered everything in lava.




I caught wind that they have to hault production of Ridlin because something they use in the manufacture is only provided by Japan. I'm not sure of credibility of this as it came from Ridlin junkies, but they would know before I would.


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Re: Will Japan pull down the rest of the world? [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14367776 - 04/28/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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