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reason for existence
    #14220488 - 04/01/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

there has to be a reason to exist.

what is the reason for existence?

i am not looking for any absolutes here... just what you believe is the reason for existence, from your perspective.

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Re: reason for existence [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14220516 - 04/01/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
there has to be a reason to exist.

what is the reason for existence?

i am not looking for any absolutes here... just what you believe is the reason for existence, from your perspective.





existence is the reason for the season


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Re: reason for existence [Re: the bizzle]
    #14220715 - 04/01/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

not really. unless you're talking about somekind of metaphorical season. :tongue:

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Re: reason for existence [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14220769 - 04/01/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

there is a reason i used the word season

but you are over-thinking it


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Re: reason for existence [Re: the bizzle]
    #14220797 - 04/01/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well, i can't really understand your reasoning for using that particular word, other than maybe you're saying that pieces of time are the reason for existence. am i close?

well, perhaps, it's best left unsaid.

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Re: reason for existence [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14220983 - 04/01/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

what if time is infinite?

you could go to the big bang and say, aha, the reason for existence is the big bang! but then you could ask, whats the reason for the big bang? and then you could find that, but with infinite time you would just keep looking for the reason of the reason of the reason of the reason




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Re: reason for existence [Re: Freedom]
    #14221036 - 04/01/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

exactly. so what is it?

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Re: reason for existence [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #14221112 - 04/01/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

there has to be a reason to exist.

No there doesn't. The universe doesn't have to conform to your standards. Where did you get that idea?


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Re: reason for existence [Re: Diploid]
    #14221130 - 04/01/11 01:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, it does! :hissyfit:


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Re: reason for existence [Re: Diploid]
    #14221281 - 04/01/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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there has to be a reason to exist.

No there doesn't. The universe doesn't have to conform to your standards. Where did you get that idea?



my standards? where did you get the idea that they were my standards? it's not that i am saying that you can't be a tree... but if you had an inkling of self-awareness, even, you'd be able to verify your existence, somehow. if you didn't, you wouldn't really be able to tell, hence you'd have no reason for existence other then what you can give it.

which of course, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference about, anyways. so it's not really a reason... unless there really is a God; or some governing system, in other words... but unless it was something that was aware, again, it would have no reason to be existing. so i guess, i am maybe getting off point here with this existential gib...

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Re: reason for existence [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14221417 - 04/01/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

where did you get the idea that they were my standards?

Here:

Quote:

there has to be a reason to exist




but if you had an inkling of self-awareness, even, you'd be able to verify your existence

Verifying that I exist is a far cry from insisting there "there has to be a reason" for my existence. There may well be NO reason for existence, and judging from the lack of evidence for any, I'd say that's the likely truth.


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Re: reason for existence [Re: Diploid]
    #14221524 - 04/01/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

do you have a reason to exist? no?

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Re: reason for existence [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14221623 - 04/01/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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what if time is infinite?

you could go to the big bang and say, aha, the reason for existence is the big bang! but then you could ask, whats the reason for the big bang? and then you could find that, but with infinite time you would just keep looking for the reason of the reason of the reason of the reason





i don't think it matters whether time is infinite to make that argument. if time was finite and say god created the big bang, you still wouldn't be able to know how god came to be, then how that thing that created god came to be and so on.

so from our perspective it's impossible to know


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