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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: lsatrap]
    #14282680 - 04/13/11 08:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The samples have been sent off. Anywho, I decided to go back for the hell of it (I'm starting to like tending to the lil guys) and get some more pics. But, while photographing the second marked patch, I heard what sounded like three consecutive reports a few seconds apart from each from a shotgun not 500 ft. into the other field. I didn't take the time to look and see what was going on. So I skedaddled via an alternate, more wooded route.








Maybe it was turkey hunters. I not sure if it is turkey season in Florida but I know it is in Georgia




Quite possibly. I now use the low, wooded route staying in the high part of the field as little as possible.

EDIT: A;so, the storm knocked out my intarnet until just now.

Here's a photo from yesterday afternoon. Also, I was too lazy to get up this morning, so I think they can do without water until it cools this afternoon.



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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14282817 - 04/13/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Damn, nice!
I live in Dalton. Where exactly did you find that field?


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14282832 - 04/13/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Damn, nice!
I live in Dalton. Where exactly did you find that field?




Sorry broham, my field ...

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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14282838 - 04/13/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, sorry! I kinda skimmed through the rules.


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14282850 - 04/13/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Oh, sorry! I kinda skimmed through the rules.




I apologize for coming off like an ass, but I'm trying to protect my field especially since this is a pretty rare species. I'm risking my life and freedom to propagate this mushroom and am more than willing to.


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14282860 - 04/13/11 09:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's cool, I completely understand. It was a dumb thing to ask. :P


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14282877 - 04/13/11 09:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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It's cool, I completely understand. It was a dumb thing to ask. :P




Nah man. I can understand wanting to know, but it's actually a pretty difficult to get to field. I have to literally go next to a damn swamp which I don't want to fall into, it could mean death via suffocation. Then I'm also trespassing on someone else's property and could get killed by the owner or or one of the steer there. Let me assure you it's a pain in the ass to get to. Anywho, it may be a bit dry for poo loving fungi in the fields right now as I've been looking in the general area of the patches I've found and nothing is there now. Only the patches I've been watering are still up right now. The best places to look now would be places artificially watered.


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14282901 - 04/13/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Didn't it just rain a LOT on the 11th? O_o
That would mean today and yesterday would've been a good time to hunt, correct?


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14282917 - 04/13/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Didn't it just rain a LOT on the 11th? O_o
That would mean today and yesterday would've been a good time to hunt, correct?




It rained for about like 2 hours kinda heavy (from here, it rains differently in different places), but was more lightning and thunder than rain here. I think it just pissed the plants off more than anything. If it rained more at your place, by all means don't let me stop you from hunting. You never know what you may find behind the next corner or even .... under the leaf litter right next to you. It's ALWAYS worth the expedition!!! Also, that rain we had like in the last week of March where it just rained and rained and rained for like 3 or 4 days is what spawned these Pans. The mycelium had been there a while, but the cool rain made them go into fruiting mode. So moderate, but long and penetrating rain is the key IME.


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14282955 - 04/13/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ahh, I see.
Is the rain important for all the species?
Or do certain ones not need wetness?


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14283353 - 04/13/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Didn't it just rain a LOT on the 11th? O_o
That would mean today and yesterday would've been a good time to hunt, correct?




Also, if you want to increase you chances of getting some P. cubensis, I'd recommend wait for a big system to come through and go south where it's warmer at night. Even though actually, it's getting about right for them heat wise. Wait till lows in the 60's for cubes.

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Ahh, I see.
Is the rain important for all the species?
Or do certain ones not need wetness?




they pretty much all love wet conditions. About 90% of a fresh mushroom's mass is water. That's why it takes an ounce of fresh subbs to get off. Even with the number I picked (which fresh measured 10g) I didn't get more high than nauseous.

EDIT: Also, two magic words

Microclimate
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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14283460 - 04/13/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ah, I see.
Thanks for answering all my newby questions. Haha. I appreciate it.
So are subbs crappy mushrooms or something?


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14283516 - 04/13/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Ah, I see.
Thanks for answering all my newby questions. Haha. I appreciate it.
So are subbs crappy mushrooms or something?




Define crappy ... they like poo and kinda taste like it, so I guess yeah. But then again, so do cubes. Also, they are generally said, though it depends on who you ask, to be weaker than Psilocybe species (unless you're talking about the Copelandia section of the genus Panaeolus) Also, I'm looking forward to seeing more local pictures, so I'm happy to help.

  Plus, I'd rather you know about mushrooms so you don't potentially end up like aeromast, whose little brother ate mushrooms he left on the counter. They happened to be Galerina marginata and that kid is fighting against death itself, especially with a child's body mass ... Playing with mushrooms is like playing with guns, plain and simple.


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14283554 - 04/13/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah; I was following that thread. Pretty damn sad, especially if it ends up fatal.
& I by crappy, I meant are they weak, and make you sicker than most?


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14283700 - 04/13/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeah; I was following that thread. Pretty damn sad, especially if it ends up fatal.
& I by crappy, I meant are they weak, and make you sicker than most?




Yeah they make you sicker cause they don't digest as well. If you make a tea this is more negligible, but still don't be surprised if stomach discomfort comes your way with Panaeolus in general. And man seriously, that thread about the kid makes me want to keep my game straight.


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14283892 - 04/13/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ive heard that drying pans helps ? Although I didnt notice much stomach upset with the tea


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Spilalot]
    #14283918 - 04/13/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Ive heard that drying pans helps ? Although I didnt notice much stomach upset with the tea




I did eat a bunch of stupid shit that day. Like loads of fiber on top of loads of acidic food, so I got what I deserved.

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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14283965 - 04/13/11 01:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I still haven't gotten around to trying shrooms yet...Maybe Panaeolus isn't a good idea for a first experience? Really looking forward to it. Just need for it to rain good.


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14284087 - 04/13/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeah, I still haven't gotten around to trying shrooms yet...Maybe Panaeolus isn't a good idea for a first experience? Really looking forward to it. Just need for it to rain good.




Maybe not, but they do work. also have you looked into Gymnopilus species? They grow out of rotting wood. I'd recommend you look at a bunch of pictures and of course post a formatted ID request, but they've been found in this state by weiliiiiii a user who once was on this forum. They recommend beginners not to ID them themselves as they allege them to be able to be confused with Galerinas especially since they grow in similar habitats. Regardless that's what this forum is for, the identification of your mushrooms with properly provided information.

Some threads pertaining to Gyms

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13634084#13634084
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2086621#2086621
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7063011#7063011

EDIT: One more really good and inspiring thread on Gyms

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14254803/fpart/all

One really good plus is they're fat as hell so one find has a better potential to provide a trip. they also contain a compound related to the constituents of Kava, so the trip of Gyms is rather unique.


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Re: Panaeolus olivaceus? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14284540 - 04/13/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm in Rome and our fields are either dry as hell or under water. I'm not finding any fungus now. Our best season is for cubes in the Fall.
I love that rare find of yours leponomus.


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