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Invisibleteknix
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Nothing and everything
    #14219385 - 04/01/11 07:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you say nothing is everything and everything is nothing the outcome is always negative (nothing) no matter how you slice it.

I found the solution.

Nothing contains everything, as everything contains nothing.


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: teknix]
    #14219793 - 04/01/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

why is nothing negative?

also, in madhyamaka buddhist philosophy - the "middle way" is defined as freedom from the four extremes of existence, non-existence, both existence and non-existence, and neither existence nor non-existence. basically, in the ultimate view nothing inherently exists, nor is it the extreme of non-existence, nor some combination, and nor is it neither! haha :grin:

madhyamaka philosophy is very very complex though and takes many years of study to grok. but basically, in this view (or viewless view) there's neither "everything" (in the way we tend to think about it) or "nothing". as long as one grasps to either of these two extremes, there is suffering, and emptiness is not realized, or something :sun:


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: teknix]
    #14219814 - 04/01/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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According to Jung, pleroma is both "nothing and everything. It is quite fruitless to think about pleroma. Therein both thinking and being cease, since the eternal and infinite possess no qualities."
-Wiki




...no qualities...

Hmmmm...:hmm:

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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #14219889 - 04/01/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

theres a new series on bbc called 'nothing & everything', get the torrent, its amazing!


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: Chronic7]
    #14219909 - 04/01/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Nothing is the opposite polarity of everything. As existence is the opposite of non-existence.

At the core of these exist neutrality to encompass both, not combined, but side by side. So then you become both neither of them and both of them. :wink:

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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: teknix]
    #14219917 - 04/01/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The closer you are to everything the farther you are from nothing, and vice versa.

The closer you are to existence, the farther you are from non-existence, and vice versa.

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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: teknix]
    #14220139 - 04/01/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

There's no such thing as nothing. :shrug:


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: NetDiver]
    #14220390 - 04/01/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I love thinking about nothing. :strokebeard2:

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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: Tony]
    #14220479 - 04/01/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Nothingness... :strokebeard2: mother of everything

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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #14220617 - 04/01/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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HeartAndMind said:
Nothingness... :strokebeard2: mother of everything




yes and no

its dualistic like that


the only way there is even such a thing as "nothing", is from here, within "something"

there's not anything outside of this nothing/something, not even "nothing"


so where did it all come from? not from "nothing"!!!

it doesnt really capture it well to say just that it just "is", but it kinda...is




but i tell u what, if you can truly understand this nothing/everythingness thang,

then you will know the answer to the creationist/evolutionist/random chance/whatever debate


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: the bizzle]
    #14220743 - 04/01/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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it doesnt really capture it well to say just that it just "is", but it kinda...is



word.

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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #14221185 - 04/01/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Samurai Drifter said:
There's no such thing as nothing. :shrug:



Literally

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HeartAndMind said:
Nothingness... :strokebeard2: mother of everything



But I believe that nothingness is quite different from nothing


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: R2-D2]
    #14221218 - 04/01/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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But I believe that nothingness is quite different from nothing


I neither agree, disagree, both-agree-and-disagree, nor neither-agree-nor-disagree, with this.


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: Lion]
    #14221252 - 04/01/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: Lion]
    #14221264 - 04/01/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:biggrin:

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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: R2-D2]
    #14221317 - 04/01/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How different you see them to be?

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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #14221767 - 04/01/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ah, it's whatever


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: R2-D2]
    #14222465 - 04/01/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"nothing" is a contradiction. if it really was no-thing it wouldnt need to be called any-thing


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Re: Nothing and everything [Re: jjdiggincrates]
    #14222621 - 04/01/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If nothing doesn't exist, then how do you explain Anti-matter?

If you only consider everything to be everything, then I see how you arrive to that conslusion.

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