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badlydrawnboy
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Fruit Already!
#14216143 - 03/31/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's two weeks since i birthed the first couple cakes and put them in my fc. it's a basic shotgun, humidity is proper, lighting is proper, temps are high 60's consistently. the first cakes i'm referring to are multispore golden teachers.
i know it isn't uncommon to wait this long, or longer, but i've noticed some of the cakes bruising/blueing a bit. should i rinse these and re dunk them for a few hours and then roll again and put them back in the fc? i dunked them for 24 hours the first time.
i mist the hell out of all the cakes 3-4 times a day, then fan for almost a minute after.
should i let them sit a couple more days before dunking again?
...also, i birthed a few cakes yesterday that had small pins on them. i didn't pick them off like other times and left them on while i dunked and rolled. i'm concerned now because i cannot even see them below the dry verm i rolled on the cakes, and i'm afraid that they are just aborts and will rot and contam the cake. should i rinse these cakes and scrub them with my fingers a bit and roll them again?
thx for the help.
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Doc_T
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Dunk, also post pics.
By 'basic' do you mean a substandard shotgun?
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badlydrawnboy
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Re: Fruit Already! [Re: Doc_T]
#14216194 - 03/31/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm going to go take some pics. it will clear up both questions.
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You had pins for two weeks and they haven't grown through the vermiculite yet?
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badlydrawnboy
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the bruising isn't too bad, it seems to be on most the cakes. i just noticed it a few hours ago.
i'm concerned with the ones i just dunked, rolled and fruited though. should i rinse them and get those pins/aborts off? some of them looked so healthy though and i thought i might get a couple night fruits.
why, if they are pinning in the jars and have several fruits when i birth them, do they take weeks then to fruit proper in the fruiting chamber?
i have an analog hygrometer on the way, ordered over amazon. the digital stops reading when it gets above 90 humidity. it has read HIGH, which is what it does when it goes above that. i'll know better what it is once the analog gets here.




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bakenast
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I think they look too dry, the amount and size of holes In your FC seem too many//big...but thats just a opinion from my past Pf fruiting probs!
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badlydrawnboy
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Re: Fruit Already! [Re: bakenast]
#14216322 - 03/31/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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the holes are 1/4, 2 inch apart. not all of them are the exact spacing and lined up with one another, but it's pretty close.
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bakenast
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other than RH not being right I aint gotta clue lol I never had a prob with shotguns!,,, are ur lights floursent
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badlydrawnboy
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Re: Fruit Already! [Re: bakenast]
#14216497 - 03/31/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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they are just 6500 spectrum bulbs in the lamp fixtures.
i'm going to just go ahead and dunk them. i was going to do it in a couple days anyway. i'm going to clean these new ones i put in today too. i don't like those pins on there if they're not growing out.
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Some thoughts based on reading a bit:
Could the lights be drying them out quick and you're not keeping up with misting?
Maybe the perlite is dry since it's been there for 2 weeks?
What is high 60s? Like 66-68? That's pretty cold so that would definitely slow them down a bit.
Also, that looks a bit greenish blue in the picture. Is it a green tint to you up close or leaning towards blue more?
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bakenast
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if the temps are in the upper sixties,, 4 inches of wet perlite good FAE, then its ur RH not high enough I never put that many holes in my chamber and If u live in a dry climate it doesnt help, maybe stick a small fish tank bubblier into a jar of water to help with RH
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Re: Fruit Already! [Re: bakenast]
#14216653 - 03/31/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Try raising the fc a little bit, make sure it's not too close to the wall and maybe add another 1-2" of wet perlite. That's a huge fc btw and looks good otherwise and it seems like you've been spraying right by what you say. Did you leave the cakes in the jar for a week after full colonization?
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Re: Fruit Already! [Re: fngbronco]
#14216676 - 03/31/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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haven't seen one word about misting...they're more then likely drying out because you haven't misted several times a day like you should....
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badlydrawnboy
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Re: Fruit Already! [Re: bakenast]
#14216947 - 03/31/11 07:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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biologys said: haven't seen one word about misting...they're more then likely drying out because you haven't misted several times a day like you should....
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badlydrawnboy said: i mist the hell out of all the cakes 3-4 times a day, then fan for almost a minute after.
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fngbronco said: Try raising the fc a little bit, make sure it's not too close to the wall and maybe add another 1-2" of wet perlite. That's a huge fc btw and looks good otherwise and it seems like you've been spraying right by what you say. Did you leave the cakes in the jar for a week after full colonization?
the fc is raised about 5 inches from the floor. i did wait a week after full colonization. i think when i rehydrate the perlite i am going to add an inch or two more like you say.
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OneU said: Some thoughts based on reading a bit:
Could the lights be drying them out quick and you're not keeping up with misting?
Maybe the perlite is dry since it's been there for 2 weeks?
What is high 60s? Like 66-68? That's pretty cold so that would definitely slow them down a bit.
Also, that looks a bit greenish blue in the picture. Is it a green tint to you up close or leaning towards blue more?
the color is bluish, but it isn't much at all. i'm pretty sure it's either due to my humidity or the cake being dehydrated, not contamination.
high, like 66-70, yeah. i know this too will delay fruiting a bit. but still! just anxious and...waiting...
i'm going to rehydrate the perlite at the one month mark.
i do mist a good amount, i thought maybe too much when i do it. i have a ceiling fan on low and a small fan i turn on when i sleep to damper the noise in the house. i wonder if these could be drying the cakes some? i just figured since i cannot feel the breeze over the fc that it wouldn't really matter. the ceiling fan is on LOW...like, silent mode where i can watch the blades and see them go around individually without trying hard at all.
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if the temps are in the upper sixties,, 4 inches of wet perlite good FAE, then its ur RH not high enough I never put that many holes in my chamber and If u live in a dry climate it doesnt help, maybe stick a small fish tank bubblier into a jar of water to help with RH 
i don't know. like i said my analog hygrometer will be here this week so i'll know for sure what exactly the humidity is. i know it is at least above 90 right now though. i followed what RR said for the 2inch spacing and 1/4 inch holes for the chamber. it does seem like a lot of holes, but he knows better than I.
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