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bholzer
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First ayahuasca brew
#14215826 - 03/31/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Okay, so In the next couple days, I'll be making up my first aya brew with mimosa hostilis + syrian rue. I think what I'll be doing is gelcapping the rue, and taking 3.5 grams, and boiling up 100 grams of the hostilis. If I split the tea into 5 equal doses, should I end up with some decent aya? (given that I boil it correctly and such)
Thanks for the help, all recommendations with be heartily accepted.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: bholzer]
#14215928 - 03/31/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Technically it's not ayahuasca if you're not using any ayahuasca in the brew.
My advice for the rue is to make a tea and strain out the seeds because if you eat them straight like that you will most likely have some serious nausea issues.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: bholzer]
#14215942 - 03/31/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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True that it is called mimosahuasca.
Anyway... Properly prepared, you shouldn't need more than 3g of good M.hostilis. I would be very careful with 20g and start much lower.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: muistrue]
#14215948 - 03/31/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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FractalDust said: Technically it's not ayahuasca if you're not using any ayahuasca in the brew.
My advice for the rue is to make a tea and strain out the seeds because if you eat them straight like that you will most likely have some serious nausea issues.
Okay, well mimosauhasca.
And I'll probably end up having a couple doses left over. If so, How long can I keep it in the fridge? Will it lose potency?
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bholzer
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ifoundwaldo said: True that it is called mimosahuasca.
Anyway... Properly prepared, you shouldn't need more than 3g of good M.hostilis. I would be very careful with 20g and start much lower.
Interesting. I've heard while 20 grams is pretty high, that it's pretty manageable. I'm fairly experienced with LSD, shrooms, and pure DMT, and I am looking for a pretty profound experience.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: bholzer]
#14216032 - 03/31/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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P. harmala seeds make me 
If I'm going to use them for MAOI, I take the time and make the effort to do a Manske extraction. Its pretty darned easy and gets rid of all the uterotoxic and nausea producing compounds.
As has already been pointed out, true Ayahuasca is made with B. Caapi vine, either alone or in an admixture with other botanicals where the caapi is the predominant element.
Good luck. Let us know what you decide to do and how it goes.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: bholzer]
#14216903 - 03/31/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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bholzer said:
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FractalDust said: Technically it's not ayahuasca if you're not using any ayahuasca in the brew.
My advice for the rue is to make a tea and strain out the seeds because if you eat them straight like that you will most likely have some serious nausea issues.
Okay, well mimosauhasca.
And I'll probably end up having a couple doses left over. If so, How long can I keep it in the fridge? Will it lose potency?
It'll keep indefinitely in the freezer and months in the fridge. I took my first ayahuasca trip a few weeks ago, and I brewed it up at least 6 months before.
Also, you should take everyone's advice on starting lower for your first time. I was going to take 10g's at first and then ended up backing down to 4g's and it was a good choice.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: Yacub]
#14216919 - 03/31/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yacub said:
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bholzer said:
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FractalDust said: Technically it's not ayahuasca if you're not using any ayahuasca in the brew.
My advice for the rue is to make a tea and strain out the seeds because if you eat them straight like that you will most likely have some serious nausea issues.
Okay, well mimosauhasca.
And I'll probably end up having a couple doses left over. If so, How long can I keep it in the fridge? Will it lose potency?
It'll keep indefinitely in the freezer and months in the fridge. I took my first ayahuasca trip a few weeks ago, and I brewed it up at least 6 months before.
Also, you should take everyone's advice on starting lower for your first time. I was going to take 10g's at first and then ended up backing down to 4g's and it was a good choice.
With the 4 g's, did you still get some intense visuals? Anything profound?
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: bholzer]
#14216944 - 03/31/11 07:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I got some good visuals, but they weren't so intense that I couldn't make out what was around me. If I would have taken more, I don't know if I could have found my way around the house. But I was pretty well couch locked so there really wasn't much need to get around.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: Yacub]
#14217011 - 03/31/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So after looking around at some more reports, I'm finding that most people use tenuiflora as opposed to hostilis.
Is there a distinct difference between the two? Is one more potent than the other or anything like that?
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: bholzer]
#14217506 - 03/31/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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bholzer said: So after looking around at some more reports, I'm finding that most people use tenuiflora as opposed to hostilis.
Is there a distinct difference between the two? Is one more potent than the other or anything like that?
Nope, Mimosa tenuiflora and Mimosa hostilis are one and the same Mimosa tenuiflora being the botanically correct name.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: muistrue]
#14217536 - 03/31/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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FractalDust said:
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bholzer said: So after looking around at some more reports, I'm finding that most people use tenuiflora as opposed to hostilis.
Is there a distinct difference between the two? Is one more potent than the other or anything like that?
Nope, Mimosa tenuiflora and Mimosa hostilis are one and the same Mimosa tenuiflora being the botanically correct name.
Wow, thanks. Have no idea how I didnt notice that in my research!
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: Nature Boy]
#14281109 - 04/12/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: P. harmala seeds make me 
If I'm going to use them for MAOI, I take the time and make the effort to do a Manske extraction. Its pretty darned easy and gets rid of all the uterotoxic and nausea producing compounds.
As has already been pointed out, true Ayahuasca is made with B. Caapi vine, either alone or in an admixture with other botanicals where the caapi is the predominant element.
Good luck. Let us know what you decide to do and how it goes.
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Okay, so I decided to use the Jello Shot tek I found, and it worked out really well.
I parachuted 3 gramss of my rue, and waited about 30 minutes.
Earlier today I had cooked up about 8 grams of my mimosa, and it set in the jello throughout the day.
So I'm about 2 hours in, and things are awesome. I'm getting some great visuals and I can just let myself get carried away and let it overtake me.
A couple things that I think are worth mentioning are the nausea and the control I feel. The nausea was a slight at the beginning, but it subsided pretty quickly.
In regards to the control I feel: I feel like I can easily let it take me, but I feel like if I want to just bring it in, I can with ease. It's just very pleasant.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: bholzer]
#14281213 - 04/12/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I also think I've gotten a lot out of this. I've just realized these small things that I can do to make myself a better person. I've also gained a good bit of confidence. This is a trip that I will look back on and think about significantly. Not life changing, but significant.
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: bholzer]
#14282283 - 04/13/11 04:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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NICE! Glad that worked out for you. The jello tek is pretty interesting. Not sure how to judge the dose, though. I like being able to weigh out the fumarate salt on an accurate microgram scale. Gives me the confidence of knowing precisely how much I've taken.
Thanks for getting back with a report. 
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Re: First ayahuasca brew [Re: Nature Boy]
#14282442 - 04/13/11 06:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: NICE! Glad that worked out for you. The jello tek is pretty interesting. Not sure how to judge the dose, though. I like being able to weigh out the fumarate salt on an accurate microgram scale. Gives me the confidence of knowing precisely how much I've taken.
Thanks for getting back with a report. 
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I'd like to be able to do an STB extraction, but I have roommates that wouldn't exactly be okay with it. They've caught me once, and it didn't go well.
And no problem! I'm sure I'll have another one soon with a higher dose. I'll probably shoot for 15 grams or something close.
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