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Annapurna1
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catch-all drug laws coming to US?...
#14212813 - 03/31/11 12:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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they already have arrived in texas (surprise..surprise..surprise)...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13793629#13793629
the new TX law criminalizes a broad chemical structure (as is done in the UK) rather than specific chemical formulas (as is the case under current US federal law)...in other words..ever JWH that could ever be invented is already illegal in TX..even the ones that dont exist yet...
and your not off the hook just because you dont have the misfortune of living in TX either...it is only a short matter of time before other states and the federal govt follow suit.. and not just with the JWHs either..but rather all US drug laws will be overhauled to catch-alls...
IMAO..there are two main reasons for this action ..citizens united...politicians are under pressure from the prison industry lobby to act against synthetic drugs.. not because they see a bonanza from new prosecutions on synthetics..but rather because legal drugs are reducing prosecutions on illegal drugs and overall drug prosecutions as such...
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wildernessjunkie
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Re: catch-all drug laws coming to US?... [Re: Annapurna1]
#14212890 - 03/31/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Where as all the other countless laws have failed, this one is sure to stop all the drugs.
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txhc4life
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Re: catch-all drug laws coming to US?... [Re: Annapurna1]
#14212932 - 03/31/11 01:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did any of these bill pass yet, and if so is the September date for both bills?
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ChuangTzu
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Re: catch-all drug laws coming to US?... [Re: txhc4life]
#14212988 - 03/31/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Texas law was only proposed and the US already was the first nation with a catch-all drug law, the so-called Analog Act.
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Re: catch-all drug laws coming to US?... [Re: ChuangTzu]
#14213018 - 03/31/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, and, as I'm sure you concur, the analog act is ridiculous and makes no sense. I guess if you know little of chemistry and know of very few substances you can look at their "designer drug" pictures and then pictures of scheduled drugs and decide they are similar enough to support an objective standard, but these guys voting on it passed a law that was contrary to normal practice and if ever enforced would be pretty much selective prosecution (factually, not legally).
pseudophedrine and the less active methamphetamine enantiomer are somehow still sold and kept without scheduled status despite the analogue act yet they try and bust people with novel phenylethylamines as possessing analogues?
It makes no sense. (its even more ridiculous that your body contains plenty of analogs by any rational standard: the law makes the human body a controlled substance and makes it a crime to know this info- if your not as stupid as congress, your a criminal as you then knowingly possess analogs)
The law also makes the presumption that that controlled substances are controlled because they have a particularly strong effect, which is bullshit. One of the criteria is the drug being advertised as if it has an effect similar to controlled substances. Since controlled substances can be as mild as a sip of coffee or powerful enough to kill, that distinction is ridiculous.
The whole thing made no sense and the few prosecutions have resulted in some judicial comments on how much bullshit the whole thing is.
When it passed, the substance didn't even need to be a drug to be considered an analogue: something completely inert qualified. Ridiculous. (I think its still that way, but forget what all the changes they made were- its still nutty).
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Annapurna1
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Re: catch-all drug laws coming to US?... [Re: johnm214]
#14213065 - 03/31/11 01:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont know if you could really compare the US analogue law to UK drug laws.. otherwise the TX prison shills would not have found it necessary to take the latter approach...
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Seuss
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Re: catch-all drug laws coming to US?... [Re: Annapurna1]
#14213319 - 03/31/11 04:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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> i dont know if you could really compare the US analogue law to UK drug laws.. otherwise the TX [snip]
The US analogue act is federal, not state, thus it is irrelevant to the state of Texas with respect to state law.
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Annapurna1
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Re: catch-all drug laws coming to US?... [Re: Seuss]
#14214689 - 03/31/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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spoken like a true teabagger.. but thats not what i said...what i did say was that the TX prison companinies obviously didnt think that the approach taken by the federal analogue law was sufficient in TX...
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