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Why don't we do something?
#14212338 - 03/30/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think there are plenty of intelligent, dynamic, critical thinkers around to take this planet back over. By "take the planet back over," I don't mean "rule the world." I mean stopping those who wish to do so. I can't really pin down what group or organization in particular is responsible for the mounting chaos in the world, but I think quite a few people can agree that there has to be some group of soulless, unintelligent beings out there wreaking havoc upon the rest of us. JFK, MLK, Vietnam, Iraq, fossil fuel dependency, and the creation of a blasphemous fiat money system all involve foul play at various levels. We see the injustice on a daily basis. You personally may not believe it yet, but we are headed toward total collapse in America, and most of the world as well. I have my own reasons for believing this, but here is a scary piece of information I just recently became aware of.
http://www.examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/terror-threats-rising-as-fema-orders-1-billion-dehydrated-food
I call bullshit on the terror threat thing, but dehydrated food might be a good indicator . You can still find it, but many sites state huge back order periods, and looming price increases. Oil prices are getting out of control, the outlook for the dollar looks real bad, and geopolitical tensions seem to be rising exponentially. It looks like we're in the middle of a shit storm and the levees are beginning to buckle, waiting to release a shitsunami that will leave every living person on the planet scrambling to keep their head above, well... shit!
In comparison to the rest of the world, I think the evil soulless bloodsuckers who know this is going to happen are just a handful of insecure needle dicks that want to take advantage of the situation to gain control of the world once and for all. If you are wondering how many hats I have lined with tinfoil, then this post wasn't written for you. This post is written for those who believe we can still do something about it.
I refuse to believe that most of the worlds population teams with uncaring, selfish, balless excuses for human beings who don't want a better world for everyone. We are many, they are few! We just have to organize. I don't know how to do it, but this was the first place I thought of that would allow me to air these feelings, and hopefully get constructive feedback on some possible solutions. I will not give up on being part of the light on this planet, no matter what I am threatened with. It's beginning to look like the most epic battle between good and evil planet earth has ever seen is about to occur, and I have long since chosen my side.
Much of what has been called conspiracy theory is beginning to look terrifyingly plausible to me. FEMA having built camps all over the US, saying they are for emergency preparedness, also has the power to do whatever they please once marshal law is declared. Check this video out. It shows how much "help" some of our so called protectors really are when things get out of control. Skip to 2:55 to see an old lady get owned for owning a small revolver.
I know many people are already aware of these issues, but I want to propose that we find a way to do something about it. Maybe we can prevail with peace still, I don't know. I really don't know what I should and shouldn't say online. I don't want to be targeted as a terrorist or something of the like. I'm probably already on some CIA list for my web browsing history, legal gun ownership, and GPA, but I can't keep my mouth shut anymore. It's beginning to smell a bit like Nazis again, and many people I look up to have warned us of this scenario in the past. George Carlin for instance. Skip to 5:40 if you get bored.
WE SHOULD HEED THE WARNINGS of George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Thomas Jefferson, Maynard James Keenan, Terrance McKenna, George Orwell, and yes even Tupac Shakur. Before he died he said the gun was pointed at the black man, but would soon be aimed at the rest of America... that day may be coming sooner than we hope.
Why don't we get together and use our own currency, grow our own food, create our own music, and protect our own lives? That's just one possible plan/idea that might generate some critical thinking as to how we can rise up. Not as a specific race, creed, political affiliation or gender, but as HUMANS! I think we are a glorious creation, and in the all to real words of the late great Terrance Mckenna,"Man was not made to toil in the dirt!" I'm going to school so I can help change the world, but even that may get taken away with a budget that looks like MC Hammer got hooked on crack then put in charge of Federal finances. Or are we just bored with this existence, and ready to give up and move on to the next thing? Does anyone even care anymore? Have they broken everyone's spirit?
I just can no longer stand on the sidelines and observe the atrocities mankind lends upon itself without saying something. Too many good people have been silenced to just stand by and let it go. Can someone at least offer me a spiritual explanation as to what is going on and how to proceed? I am an avid listener of my heart, but lately it's telling me to run. Even though there is nowhere to go. I just see what we are capable of, and how we are not doing it. So...
Why don't we do something?
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: guitardude3]
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unless you have the power of the elite you can't do jack.
all you can do is watch everything unfold before you.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: Salomon]
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I think the elite are more scared of the consequences their own actions will cause than we are. Hitler killed himself in his bunker like a little bitch.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: Salomon]
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turn inward and you can find peace there as well as the answers to your questions
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: sleepy]
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sleepy said: turn inward and you can find peace there as well as the answers to your questions
I agree.
Turning inward tells me to try and spread awareness outward. There is something beautiful in the human conscience that needs to be revealed to this dark side of humanity. That's just how I feel.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: guitardude3]
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I don't think theres a giant cult of wealthy people out to kill us man.
I think it's like this: the process through which our world is being destroyed and our society and government are being destroyed is the same process one goes through when they stop taking care of their bodies. Fat people just dont have the self discipline to stop eating and start exercising. It's not like they want to be fat and have conjured up an evil plan to get as fat as possible. They just dont have the self control not to. We don't have the discipline as a society to take care of ourselves.
Greed is the intake of dollars without expending a significant portion of them. Getting fat is the intake of calories without expending a significant portion of them.
Not hating on fat people. I'm a fat people too. It just worked as a metaphor so well. ...and i'm really blown
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: guitardude3]
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Hitler may not have been part of the group of elite though, perhaps he was independent from them. Who knows.
I didn't read all of your first post, I have a headache. But I did see that you think we are a creation. You think we were created?
Also I like your influences, they are similar to mine and many other people who consider themselves "awake". I'd add Aldous Huxley to that list, gotta read Brave New World and Island, plus he did psychedelics before they were cool, unlike george carlin, bill hicks, mckenna, etc. He was probably smarter than them too. Well idk about Carlin, that guy was great. Archetype of a great man.
Even though I didn't read your post, ill answer your question. Keep in mind I haven't thoroughly thought this out, it's my initial thought about it, so it's probably bullshit (as if thinking things out and rationalizing makes bullshit non-bullshit) I think we don't act because of fear. Yeah you could say security, comfort, by conforming to the status quo and not questioning the system we are forced to live in but really that can be boiled down to fear. If you look at inaction, it just seems to be the result of fear. Actions can be fear-induced too, but those tend to be precise, tangible fears (running from an enemy, locking a door from an enemy). Fear-induced inaction seems to be fear at a deeper and subtler level.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: Salomon]
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Videos were nice. I always like staying apprised of things and making sure nothing has happened lol.
Definitely can't buy too much into that Illuminati type thought. It's counter-productive I think.
Spreading consciousness/awareness is definitely the way to go.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: Humility]
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I wonder what would happen if 1/3 of the population of the U.S.A. got pissed and stormed around.
I beleive it took less than that for the revolution back in the year.
Sadly our country is way to divided and or lazy. The mix just don't work.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: Humility]
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Yeah by spreading the ideas about power elite and oppression and things like that it just spreads fear. Also makes people feel powerless. Regardless of whether or not a NWO exists, it is true that power is not equal. Dwelling on the inequality doesn't change the inequality, it only hurts the dweller. The goal should be liberation. Can't be free if you are attached to indignation through ideas about the inequality of power
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: mikeisapro] 1
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What is this myth that the world is getting bad? There has never been a better time to be alive than now, except for the future probably.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: ripten]
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ripten said: What is this myth that the world is getting bad? There has never been a better time to be alive than now, except for the future probably.
Agreed, people just like to bitch. The world has been getting better for thousands of years.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: ripten]
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I didn't say the world is getting bad.
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StaleShrooms said: I don't think theres a giant cult of wealthy people out to kill us man.
I think it's like this: the process through which our world is being destroyed and our society and government are being destroyed is the same process one goes through when they stop taking care of their bodies. Fat people just dont have the self discipline to stop eating and start exercising. It's not like they want to be fat and have conjured up an evil plan to get as fat as possible. They just dont have the self control not to. We don't have the discipline as a society to take care of ourselves.
Greed is the intake of dollars without expending a significant portion of them. Getting fat is the intake of calories without expending a significant portion of them.
Not hating on fat people. I'm a fat people too. It just worked as a metaphor so well. ...and i'm really blown 
It's not too late though. Maybe there isn't one group planning all of this out, but the media and other tools that can be likened to brainwashing devices are not trying to help us through it. So isn't that stopping us from doing what we know needs to be done? Intended or not?
Greed only grows. Is it totally off base to think that those in power now will only want more and more? Are these "Emergency Camps" really there to help us, or there to offer one last shred of hope to humans that are totally hopeless? It just sounds like the perfect shitstorm to me. Too perfect.
I'm not trying to spread fear, just awareness. If you get scared by this kind of stuff, it's not my problem. I'm not scared anymore.
This is my own personal quote, and I think it bears relevance to this discussion.
Optimism without a firm grip on reality is like a bullet without a gun. Aimless, and highly ineffective.
I wanted to publish that (in a book or something) before I released it but it's worth it here.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: mikeisapro]
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I think as once the education system moves from specialty knowledge to consilience policy will evolve
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: nalyudi]
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StaleShrooms said: I don't think theres a giant cult of wealthy people out to kill us man.
I think it's like this: the process through which our world is being destroyed and our society and government are being destroyed is the same process one goes through when they stop taking care of their bodies. Fat people just dont have the self discipline to stop eating and start exercising. It's not like they want to be fat and have conjured up an evil plan to get as fat as possible. They just dont have the self control not to. We don't have the discipline as a society to take care of ourselves.
Greed is the intake of dollars without expending a significant portion of them. Getting fat is the intake of calories without expending a significant portion of them.
Not hating on fat people. I'm a fat people too. It just worked as a metaphor so well. ...and i'm really blown 
It's not too late though. Maybe there isn't one group planning all of this out, but the media and other tools that can be likened to brainwashing devices are not trying to help us through it. So isn't that stopping us from doing what we know needs to be done? Intended or not?
Greed only grows. Is it totally off base to think that those in power now will only want more and more? Are these "Emergency Camps" really there to help us, or there to offer one last shred of hope to humans that are totally hopeless? It just sounds like the perfect shitstorm to me. Too perfect.
I'm not trying to spread fear, just awareness. If you get scared by this kind of stuff, it's not my problem. I'm not scared anymore.
This is my own personal quote, and I think it bears relevance to this discussion.
Optimism without a firm grip on reality is like a bullet without a gun. Aimless, and highly ineffective.
I wanted to publish that (in a book or something) before I released it but it's worth it here.
totally. intended or not, its still something we need to fight against 
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nalyudi said: I think as once the education system moves from specialty knowledge to consilience policy will evolve
expand?
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: mikeisapro]
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I didn't read all of your first post, I have a headache. But I did see that you think we are a creation. You think we were created?
Maybe more like imagined. I believe something beyond intelligent is behind all of this. Created was the wrong word.
Yes, I've been meaning to read more of Huxley's work.
Thank you for the response, and compliments. However, I don't want to see this get off topic. I don't really care about our ideas of existence in this particular thread, no offense. I was hoping to hear some new ideas from people who have similar concerns.
I like what you say about fear. I agree completely. I'm writing this out of oh i don't know, anxiousness. Maybe not the right word, but I feel like all we do accomplishes nothing. Which is probably the end result in the grand scheme of things anyway, but this is going too deep again. I just think we can make this ride way fuckin' better than it is. It might not take much either.
What was said about revolutions being planned in pubs?
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: guitardude3]
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guitardude3 said: I think the elite are more scared of the consequences their own actions will cause than we are. Hitler killed himself in his bunker like a little bitch.

A lot more people need to wake up to what's going on around the world before any change can happen. Having more people that are higher up in the pyramid on our side would help a lot too.
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StaleShrooms said: I don't think theres a giant cult of wealthy people out to kill us man.
I think it's like this: the process through which our world is being destroyed and our society and government are being destroyed is the same process one goes through when they stop taking care of their bodies. Fat people just dont have the self discipline to stop eating and start exercising. It's not like they want to be fat and have conjured up an evil plan to get as fat as possible. They just dont have the self control not to. We don't have the discipline as a society to take care of ourselves.
Greed is the intake of dollars without expending a significant portion of them. Getting fat is the intake of calories without expending a significant portion of them.
Not hating on fat people. I'm a fat people too. It just worked as a metaphor so well. ...and i'm really blown 
QFT, i know people who have a million dollars. they got it by living "frugally", ie, eating hotdogs and shit like that. and they still eat hotdogs now that they are millionaires... i just wish they would buy good food for themselves, its so sad and stupid and unconscious what they are doing. actually they are starting to eat a little better due to my influence. so thats something you can do.
I TRULY BELIEVE that there can be peaceful revolution. thats the only kind i would be happy with. whats the use of having a huge war to get peace?
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: Devlish2]
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guitardude3 said: I think the elite are more scared of the consequences their own actions will cause than we are. Hitler killed himself in his bunker like a little bitch.

A lot more people need to wake up to what's going on around the world before any change can happen. Having more people that are higher up in the pyramid on our side would help a lot too.
So how do we help do that without scaring the shit out of everyone? People are waking up slowly, I just feel like I could at least try and start a support network in my own community, but most would still look at me like I'm crazy. More and more people take my ideas seriously though, I'm just looking for the proverbial "Ah ha!"
Nice sig.
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Hmm okay. Newton, Galileo, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, da vinci all these people are considered polymaths or renaissance men.
broad education in sciences, philosophy, and theology
these people understand and approach knowledge and systems of the universe as interconnected.
Interdisciplinary study is a trend I am starting to notice take hold at colleges, but this is really only a first step. I think it needs to begin earlier in life.
currently we study the broad push toward specialization; the edu system can be better, not sure how, but I know it can
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: nalyudi]
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A large number of us would have to find common ground.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: guitardude3]
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Its idiots, herding idiots, pretending there smarter, and the other idiots pretending there smarter and the smartest idiots being passive or have no expression or really any ability to do anything.
Oppression leads to ignorance, ignorance to hate, hatred to fear, fear to control, control to Oppression.
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We need an information network, a pure and honest with every government possible. Everything that is happening needs to be reported properly, Every fear needs to be reported, every worry, every point of questionable information, every point of validated information.
Let the people learn for themselves, Let the people know the real problems, let everything possible be connected to this unified informational network. With this, we have the ability to adapt as people, not as individual restricted governments.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: nalyudi]
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Its idiots, herding idiots, pretending there smarter, and the other idiots pretending there smarter. Quote:
nalyudi said: Hmm okay. Newton, Galileo, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, da vinci all these people are considered polymaths or renaissance men.
broad education in sciences, philosophy, and theology
these people understand and approach knowledge and systems of the universe as interconnected.
Interdisciplinary study is a trend I am starting to notice take hold at colleges, but this is really only a first step. I think it needs to begin earlier in life.
currently we study the broad push toward specialization; the edu system can be better, not sure how, but I know it can
The education system acts on rules, restrictions, rules and restrictions require adaption, some people will not make this. So, we have the average adaption rate we need and that is what is what. This sets the bar low and inevitably creates an average lower adaption rate. We are literally de-evolving.
Have the educational system change into a less restricted, more motivation oriented. Have them find there own motivation.
Restrictions, Oppression, "Jumping through hoops" causes restriction in growth.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: Janamil]
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do not speak of revolution until you are willing to eat rats to survive
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: pfxtc]
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The Powers That Be possess knowledge which the rest of the population do not.
However, if there were to be a revolution under the radar, the tide may change and we may see a benevolent New World Order as opposed to a malevolent one.
I mean, they have the power to spray chemtrails in our skies and slowly kill us off, ensuring population decrease ever so subtlely while the sheeple are more concerned about how fucking wasted the cast of Jersey Shore got last Tuesday. It's fucking sickening.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: pfxtc]
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pfxtc said: do not speak of revolution until you are willing to eat rats to survive
I can agree with that, revolution is not a party. In our current economic situation, I think that could be a possible reality in the future anyway. IMO. I bet I could get used to it.
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Re: Why don't we do something? [Re: guitardude3]
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as george carlin would say, this country was bought and sold a long time ago
revolution isn't really even possible in this current system
if you wanna change your life, do that exactly. change YOUR life.
dwayne allman had it right, ain't no revolution, only evolution. embrace your own evolution, become a better/smarter person.
as far as a 1960's type of thing, i don't think it will ever happen again, and not much really even happened to begin with.
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