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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Coaster]
#14267440 - 04/10/11 02:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Coaster said: so you think shes making it all up then?
She could very well be. It wouldn't be the first time.
Connect that with the rest of the deception the mainstream media has been spewing about Libya and everything in general, and the fact that she had a gang of western media right there so catch all the drama, Occam's Razor suggests she's an actress.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
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Occam's Razor suggests she's a plant.
Quite the contrary. In order for her to be a plant you have to assume that there is a conspiracy to depict that this woman was raped by the western media and middle eastern media such as Al Jazeera. If you assume she is telling the truth, there are less things to assume. Its well known that military personnel occasionally rape woman, its even evident in our own military.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Coaster]
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Well, I've researched lots about this Libya conflict and from my perspective and knowledge base there IS a conspiracy (it's obvious if you study) Occam's Razor suggests what i said.
I've heard of soldiers raping before, but never pooping and peeing, that seems a little over the top....
The timing is quite strange too...
Plus they have a history of faking this kind of thing.
Anderson cooper looked pretty concerned though, too bad he's a CIA plant too!
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
#14267691 - 04/10/11 03:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Theatrical Review: The Libyan Rape Victim Street Theater
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2011/03/26/theatrical-review-the-libyan-rape-victim-street-theater/
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I guess Gadhafi hasn’t killed enough citizens to justify a full-scale invasion and regime change at this point (he should take a few lessons from Obama who killed more just yesterday in another missile strike), so out comes the Burson-Marstellar Street Theater cast to play-act a scene right in front of Western Media cameras.
Mars Wants Women, and so do Gadhafi’s “whiskeyed up” troops.
Oh, this play’s got everything: evil “government officials”, a beaten and raped woman just trying to tell her story, violence, mayhem, and CNN reporters who can take the stage as the next Jessica Lynch.
Here’s the plot line that the PR spin-doctors came up with. You can watch the street theater performance here. See if you can follow all the complicated twists and turns (and keep in mind that this will also deflect attention from the fact that the Obama administration is trying to find legal loop-holes in the UN resolution which will allow them to send arms and munitions to a guy in Libya who has admitted publicly that he recruited suicide bombers in Iraq and Afghanistan.)
Meet the cast
 PLAYBILL
A woman, we’ll call her “victim/hero”, rushes into a hotel stuffed with Western media after being abducted, gang raped, and shit on by 15 crazed brutal men. One would think she would go to a hospital first, but she is after all, a “hero” and they do think differently than the rest of us. One would think that she would be covered in dried feces, blood, and urine but it looks like she did have time to stop by somewhere and freshen up her make-up for the cameras. Again, it’s a “hero” thing.
Suddenly the reporters all congregate around her in what appears to be a conference room or lobby.
She has JUST ENOUGH TIME to tell her story, that she was detained at a check-point by Gadhafi forces and then gang raped and shit on by 15 of them while they were drunk of course, then she gets free, somehow, and instead of going to the hospital, she decided to go to a hotel and tell the press that she was just brutally gang raped by 15 crazed soldiers, and all she has by way of wounds are 2 bruises and an old scar from god knows how long ago.
Suddenly, before any of the reporters can ask her details about her harrowing ordeal, “plain clothed” “officials” of the Gadhafi regime bust into the scene and remove our “victim hero” so that she can’t tell any more of her story …after she finishes … telling her story.
A CNN reporter, we will call him “reporter hero” struggles unconvincingly with the “plain clothed” “official” of the Gadhafi regime.
The group of rather rough-looking “officials” lead “victim hero” to the waiting white car, can barely keep up with her at times along the way, with “reporter hero” asking questions along the way trying his best to look concerned.
Directing notes:
1. When trying to stage events like this, make sure that your “victim hero” doesn’t look quite so eager to jump into the car with the perpetrators at the end of the production, as that tends to give away the staged and rehearsed quality of the performance.
If the “victim” had actually been gang raped by 15 “officials” of the Gadhafi regime, the LAST FUCKING THING SHE WOULD DO is jump quickly into the vehicle they own so they can gang-bang her again. She had an almost convincing act of sheer terror when the “official” showed up and kept her from having to answer questions about her ordeal, but then all of that falls to the wayside when she can barely get in the car fast enough so they can zoom away, presumably to the post-production party.
2. When your “victim/hero” is supposedly being “dragged” from the safety of the hotel, it might be good if she wasn’t LEADING THE FUCKING WAY without any hands on her at all and stopping for a last second photo-op
 a star is born
3. The script – first of all, when a woman is brutally gang raped by 15 drunken vicious men who shit and pissed on her, and she just barely “manages to escape” wearing nothing more than “a robe and slippers”, most rational people would figure that her first instinct ISN’T RUNNING TO A HOTEL BREAKFAST BAR TO GET TO A BUNCH OF FUCKING NEW YORK TIMES AND REUTERS REPORTERS
“But look at what the Qaddafi men did to me.” She displayed a broad bruise on her face, a large scar (? how long ago did this happen?) on her upper thigh, several narrow and deep scratch marks lower on her leg, and marks that seemed to come from binding around her hands and feet.
She said she had been raped by 15 men. “I was tied up, and they defecated and urinated on me,” she said. “They violated my honor.”
… Ms. Obeidy said she was a native of the rebel stronghold of Benghazi who had been stopped by Qaddafi militia on the outskirts of Tripoli. After being held for about two days, she said, she had managed to escape. Wearing a black robe, a veil and slippers, she ran into the Rixos Hotel here, asking specifically to speak to the news service Reuters and The New York Times. “There is no media coverage outside,” she yelled at one point.
“They swore at me and they filmed me. I was alone. There was whiskey. I was tied up,” New York Times
4. Make-up – if the script calls for a “broad bruise on her face” (New York Times) doesn’t it seem logical that the actress playing the part would have, say, a broad bruise on her face? CNN is reporting that “Her face was heavily bruised.” then they went on to say this “CNN could not independently verify her story but her injuries appeared consistent with what she said.”
Click on the image for a larger view. You tell me if those injuries verify her story or not. In fact, tell me if you see any injuries at all.

Now how about those marks on her wrists where she was tied up for 2 days? (click on image for larger view) (video source)


5. casting – With what we all know about terrorists and extremists coming from Benghazi, don’t you think you could have picked someone from a little less obvious hometown to be your maid of “honor”?
“Ms. Obeidy said she was a native of the rebel stronghold of Benghazi”
Overall, this was a very poor effort indeed. It’s timing as a means of Obama administration supporting propaganda is painfully obvious, the staging was dreary, the staged combat scenes were unenthusiastic and clearly rehearsed, the script was over-done and exaggerated, the acting was the same.
All in all, I give this 5 Rotten Tomatoes and subsequently nominate the reporter for a Rotten Tomatoes award for Worst Supporting Actor of the year.
The tusseled hair was a nice touch but in the future if someone claims to have been shit on, they should take a lesson from Tawana Brawley and go that extra mile.
Unfortunately, if the standard rate of propaganda holds up for this production, this little episode of “Pro-War Street Theater” cost the tax-payers around 10 million dollars or more, most of it paid in cash with no receipts… and as typically the case these days, it was outsourced.
That’s too bad.
Just imagine what I could have done with a budget like that. I could have put 100 out of work Americans actors on the payroll and even tossed in a musical number and had programs and posters printed up too. Maybe even some special effects like a flying Jesus telling everyone it’s ok for Obama to kill Muslims. Now THAT is theater. Think of the jobs that would have created.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
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these military personnel were sick individuals, they easily slipped through the recruiting cracks
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Coaster]
#14267708 - 04/10/11 03:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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you are saying a conspiracy is more presumptuous than sadistic army men?
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Coaster]
#14267710 - 04/10/11 03:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Coaster said: these military personnel were sick individuals, they easily slipped through the recruiting cracks
An you know this how? you liar.
You are not exhibiting Intellectual honesty, your argument is fallacious.
I bet you also believed the Iraqis stole baby incubators.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Coaster]
#14267723 - 04/10/11 04:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Coaster said: you are saying a conspiracy is more presumptuous than sadistic army men?
No i'm saying automatically believing it was sadistic army member is presumptuous. Where's the evidence?
As for conspiracy in Libya there is plenty of evidence for that, if people can tear themselves away from their PS3 long enough to look.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
#14267740 - 04/10/11 04:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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She should be crawling with DNA evidence, where is it?
NOWHERE!
You obviously don't need any real evidence, just a sensationalist story to gain a propaganda effect since apparently a lot of people aren't too bright and believe things with no evidence.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
#14267827 - 04/10/11 04:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Coaster said: you are saying a conspiracy is more presumptuous than sadistic army men?
No i'm saying automatically believing it was sadistic army member is presumptuous. Where's the evidence?
As for conspiracy in Libya there is plenty of evidence for that, if people can tear themselves away from their PS3 long enough to look.
No its not presumptuous to believe a lawyer with no history of lying is telling the truth. However it is presumptuous to think she is lying about being gang raped.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
#14267828 - 04/10/11 04:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shins said: She should be crawling with DNA evidence, where is it?
NOWHERE!
You obviously don't need any real evidence, just a sensationalist story to gain a propaganda effect since apparently a lot of people aren't too bright and believe things with no evidence.
if u raped sum1 would u really leave evidence if u planned on letting her go?
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Coaster]
#14267942 - 04/10/11 04:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Coaster said: No its not presumptuous to believe a lawyer with no history of lying is telling the truth. However it is presumptuous to think she is lying about being gang raped.
Did you just say "lawyer with no history of lying?"
ROFL...
Burden of proof;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_burden_of_proof
If she makes the claim that she was raped, she has to prove it.
You are presuming she is telling the truth without any evidence.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Coaster]
#14267951 - 04/10/11 05:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Coaster said: if u raped sum1 would u really leave evidence if u planned on letting her go?
She claimed to have escaped, not to have been released.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
#14267953 - 04/10/11 05:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prove it to whom? Ghaddafian police? How do you know she didn't have DNA evidence all over her and what makes you think those third world troglodytes know what DNA is?
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: zappaisgod]
#14267973 - 04/10/11 05:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Prove it to whom? Ghaddafian police? How do you know she didn't have DNA evidence all over her and what makes you think those third world troglodytes know what DNA is?
Prove it to the millions of viewers and readers who she made the claim to.
There was no visible DNA evidence or signs of beating/restraint/rape in the videos of her.
how do you know she DID have DNA all over and in her?
You don't!
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
#14267980 - 04/10/11 05:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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pragmatism.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
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zappaisgod said: Prove it to whom? Ghaddafian police? How do you know she didn't have DNA evidence all over her and what makes you think those third world troglodytes know what DNA is?
Prove it to the millions of viewers and readers who she made the claim to.
There was no visible DNA evidence or signs of beating/restraint/rape in the videos of her.
how do you know she DID have DNA all over and in her?
You don't!
How do you know she didn't? She was dragged away by Ghaddafian police. Nobody is ever going to be able to prove anything, least of all you. You are so fucking ridiculous it beggars belief. Take your retarded shit where it belongs. You have a whole forum that was deliberately segregated from the sane people discussion forum. Get thee gone.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: She was dragged away by Ghaddafian police.
How do you know they where Ghaddafian police?
You don't.
In fact supposedly after getting raped and shat on repeatedly under Qaddafi's forces she made little struggle at all to get into the car with "them" to go back.
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Nobody is ever going to be able to prove anything,
How convenient, yet you still eat it up hook line and sinker.
I'm ridiculous?
You're the one who believes a CNN story with signs of performance wholeheartedly no evidence whatsoever.
I would say you and all other who believe it should go to the conspiracy theory forum yourself, because that is all this story is; a conspiracy theory.
And a shitty one at that.
But since it's gone through Reuters or some other corrupt media conglomerate you believe it and use it to justify regime change?
And you have the audacity to call me insane!
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
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You know that if your in power and you want to rape somebody your going to do it without a trace. The rapists new it would be her word against theirs. The burden of proof is not on the woman. That's like saying if you call the police to report your car stolen the cop wont do an investigation until you prove you didn't just forget your car somewhere else.
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Re: Libyan Lawyer Gang Raped, Defecated On, Then Arrested [Re: Shins]
#14268372 - 04/10/11 06:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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You really should get some professional help.
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