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Grapefruit
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#14210738 - 03/30/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Either way, you haven't provided refutation and are essentially ducking out of the debate.
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13.step
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14210748 - 03/30/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Since nobody (even you) responded to my original address to the heart of your question, I'll repeat it: I think that at one time in our evolutionary history, we experienced a continuous passion unbroken by hesitations stemming from the lessons we've learned from our past. Since that time, we have learned to control our passions, for better or for worse.
You're looking at it from a strange angle, my question was a present and pragmatic one, about why there are differences between individuals, and why these differences exist, and which type is more prevalent, or let's say which was there first.
You're saying that all people where initially born to excel and that we as a race lost it along the way, sacrificing it to rationality? I don't think you must exclude rationality from passion, passion is drive and enthusiasm, there is passion for science to...
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: 13.step]
#14210756 - 03/30/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I didn't say any of that.
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: 13.step]
#14210762 - 03/30/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: Either way, you haven't provided refutation and are essentially ducking out of the debate. 
I'm telling you that you'd get just as great a debate from drying paint, yes.
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13.step said: You're looking at it from a strange angle, my question was a present and pragmatic one, about why there are differences between individuals, and why these differences exist, and which type is more prevalent, or let's say which was there first.
You're saying that all people where initially born to excel and that we as a race lost it along the way, sacrificing it to rationality? I don't think you must exclude rationality from passion, passion is drive and enthusiasm, there is passion for science to...
I don't think that rationality necessarily inhibits passion, but it can confine it, limit it, and even replace it as a survival mechanism.
The course taken by rationality is incumbent on personal and genetic history. I think that's just my way of saying, "some people get screwed."
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#14210767 - 03/30/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm telling you that you'd get just as great a debate from drying paint, yes.
Latex, acrylic or lacquer?
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Grapefruit
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#14210770 - 03/30/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tchan909 said:
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Grapefruit said: Either way, you haven't provided refutation and are essentially ducking out of the debate. 
I'm telling you that you'd get just as great a debate from drying paint, yes.
Drying paint never responds and then ducks out. I think I'll stick with the paint. 
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14210786 - 03/30/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: Drying paint never responds and then ducks out. I think I'll stick with the paint.  

Ducking out or not, I must admit that I deserved that.
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I'm telling you that you'd get just as great a debate from drying paint, yes.
Latex, acrylic or lacquer?
Certainly not lacquer. You can cop a pretty great buzz off that shit.
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: 13.step]
#14213097 - 03/31/11 02:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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13.step said:
The question is, form your experiences, which one is "normal", which one is the norm?
put the knife in sheep man's throat and you'll see normal hiding under the normal.
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meatcakeman
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: 13.step]
#14213332 - 03/31/11 04:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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13.step said: meatcakeman - i don't mean the inept ones by boring/mediocre people, just people who choose the path of least resistance, people without drive to do something better
well one needs to find personal value in life in order to truly have the drive to live, imo. some of us haven't found any, or just not looking. so, in my eyes, everyone is technically "made" to excel since they have the intrinsic capacity to. it just depends individually upon each human being's personal values.
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14213446 - 03/31/11 05:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm gonna say this once and only once to all you humans out there who are not me.
*ahem*
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL.
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13.step
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: quinn]
#14213500 - 03/31/11 06:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Probably...but I am still better then you...
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well one needs to find personal value in life in order to truly have the drive to live, imo. some of us haven't found any, or just not looking. so, in my eyes, everyone is technically "made" to excel since they have the intrinsic capacity to. it just depends individually upon each human being's personal values.
After three pages and a lot of big empty words this is the first good answer in this thread...
Actually pretty interesting point of view, and a very optimistic one at that, but then why do some people not want to? Do you know people like that? They are just content with simply living. I can't imagine that, maybe it's just, as you said, a thing about personal values, maybe they're passionate about having a normal life, like their parents and grandparents before them...
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Re: People - are we made to excel or are we made to live in mediocrity? [Re: 13.step]
#14213738 - 03/31/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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13.step said: So which is it?
its probably comparable to cockroaches
set off a bomb; most just die but the more resilient ones turn into atomic super mutants
Edited by the bizzle (03/31/11 08:23 AM)
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