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Question about miracles..
    #14210422 - 03/30/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'll cut right to the chase. Miracles are everywhere, but Jesus could articulate a way to express them with true power and meaning. Of course he had to attain and maintain some form of pure mastery of mind in oneness before anything could allow these things to happen. He found great reason for showing people the things he did.

Here's a story: Aside from the schizophrenic thoughts that you might get out of this, I want to share a bit of insight. I dug deep within myself one day, and tuned in to a presence that was a beholder of much knowledge. I had visualizations to flow with the words I got out of it, but I asked this presence of being, "How did Jesus walk on water?" In response, it said "I don't want to throw you off from the truth that is beyond human capacity by giving you words, but one day, Jesus was sitting at the beach and came to a vital point of stillness, emptiness, and it came to him - The ocean is a FLOOR." I had a visual in turn, I saw earth sitting in space with the spiritual grid encapsulating the planet, saw the ocean and land, and the water appeared to BE land, in the sense that it was nothing more than a hard surface that had no movement. My immediate reaction was a feeling of 'Aha' or 'Of course, it's so obvious.' When Jesus appeared standing firm on the ocean's level, the wake of the waves had decreased to a calm stillness (which is stated somewhere in the bible). This COULD be a preliminary need to walk, maybe not though, either way the power falling upon him was acting in oneness. Perhaps Jesus stilling the water could have solely made it easier for him to walk, I don't know, these are just contributing factors for the whole.

I can't ask one single question, because all of you have a variety of expressions to offer me. I can however ask many questions so the way you answer me will be susceptible to a more 'open heart' and finer tuned elaboration. So here we are.

Why is nobody (or VERY few people) open to gaining access to these powerful miracles?

Is a miracle in our current time possible? (Why or why not?)

If [you know] performing a miracle in our current time IS possible, would it be a necessity for Earth, would this be a good time to manifest such power; or would the 'witty one' understand and respect free will so much and know that Earth's current vibrational frequency is not yet ready for people to grasp such light, because of the human ego?

The point of stillness is within, and the progressive pathway aspect of movement is also within. But what is it that humans need to transcend in order to be with such manifestation? (It'll obviously take MUCH needed transcendence to achieve, but what are some examples of things needed to be transcended)

For a person on a happening, healthy movement on the spiritual path to ascension and progressive revelation, is it healthy or normal to desire such forms of miracles that can boost the faith and awareness for us individuals?

If miracles were possible now, would it be at a fluid pace, meaning would 'God' be the one allowing these things to happen at the cost of you destroying your ego and allowing yourself to be an open door for such knowledge and power?

Miracles explain freedom, the true potential within an individual. Can a co-creator CHOOSE when to manifest such acts?

What does it take, if describable, to manifest such an open doorway that your true being may bring forth a miracle that will ascend Earth's conscious into a golden age?

If you hear my desire for Christ Truth, please allow yourself to bring me knowledge that will uplift my own, and many other peoples', limitations for acquiring the God within, all its power, and the God-Glory that comes with it.

Peace and love fellow brethren.


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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: Cursive]
    #14213410 - 03/31/11 05:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why is nobody (or VERY few people) open to gaining access to these powerful miracles?

Because they've been led to believe it either isn't possible, or not possible by them. Unconditional belief, down to subconsciousness is fundamental.

Is a miracle in our current time possible? (Why or why not?)

Like you said, miracles happen all the time. It's only our own human perception of an event calling it a miracle. there's nothing miraculous about it, if you understand where and what you really are.

If [you know] performing a miracle in our current time IS possible, would it be a necessity for Earth, would this be a good time to manifest such power; or would the 'witty one' understand and respect free will so much and know that Earth's current vibrational frequency is not yet ready for people to grasp such light, because of the human ego?

Everything is as it's meant to be, was and will be. Including human ego, our grasp and concerns. The mistake is referring to the 'witty one' as a person, when he is absolutely everything, including you and me. his will is your will, in this sense you are a part of god and he is you.

The point of stillness is within, and the progressive pathway aspect of movement is also within. But what is it that humans need to transcend in order to be with such manifestation? (It'll obviously take MUCH needed transcendence to achieve, but what are some examples of things needed to be transcended)

Letting go of everything human.


For a person on a happening, healthy movement on the spiritual path to ascension and progressive revelation, is it healthy or normal to desire such forms of miracles that can boost the faith and awareness for us individuals?

tricky... it's natural, but 'desire' is one of the things to let go of.
you *know* you've been given everything to have 100% faith, yet we crave further confirmation.
it's one of those situations when the shovel is buried and you need a shovel to dig it out and the only reason to dig is to have a shovel, to get to it, but why get to it, if that's the only reason you need it for?

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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: cbub]
    #14213507 - 03/31/11 06:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Miracles happen all the time, as far as science would be concerned. People are cured of thier ailments from unknown mystical powers that they are unable to calculate. Although it appears to be a miracle in the since of science, it is really just using the power of Chi to clear blockages, the practice is known a Chi Kung.

What do you consider a miracle?


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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: Cursive]
    #14213702 - 03/31/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why is nobody (or VERY few people) open to gaining access to these powerful miracles?




People are locked in a thick substance-like projection that they themselves bleed out of their experiences and surround themselves with.  It is structuring that limits their experience and sections them off from the more chaotic mystical realms.  Call it a collective vibrational belief that limits possibility based on input. 
Also the interference pattern is intelligent and reflects the desires of the individuals involved then reinforces these elements as group strategy.  Or groupthink that is more controlling and pressuring than one might think or believe.

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Is a miracle in our current time possible? (Why or why not?)




Yes, but I think we have to start thinking in terms of overt collective manipulation of the imaging centers in the brain.  That and deliberate manipulation of the bodily energy/consciousness and ruthless tampering with individual minds themselves.
Like a controlled hallucination at the direction of some intelligent 'combination of consciousness.'

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...would it be a necessity for Earth, would this be a good time to manifest such power; or would the 'witty one' understand and respect free will so much and know that Earth's current vibrational frequency is not yet ready for people to grasp such light, because of the human ego?




I think it is happening already for individuals on a person by person basis unique to their own journeys but fixed within the modern context of our global culture.  People are interacting with 'something' that seeks some part in our lives.  This something is busy constructing the 'drama' for those interacting with the 'building' going on.  Minds that are adapting to this 'mutation' lets say, in the way they experience reality, are changing and evolving and ascending and transcending limitations and boundaries daily, IMO.

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But what is it that humans need to transcend in order to be with such manifestation?




I would call it a 'patterning' I guess.  Like a default way that humans view the world.  In my experience it is actually a limiting structure that doesn't allow union with realms in existence that our own minds are always interfacing with.

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...is it healthy or normal to desire such forms of miracles that can boost the faith and awareness for us individuals?




I think the squeeky wheel gets the grease when it comes to this kind of desire.

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...would it be at a fluid pace, meaning would 'God' be the one allowing these things to happen...




Yes, but God being the infinite chaotic interplay of intelligence, random adaptation, fundamental laws, and the mental/astral/mystical.

More chaos theory and less divine intervention.  More of a psychic or spiritual Darwinism or something.
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Can a co-creator CHOOSE when to manifest such acts?




Yes.


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What does it take, if describable, to manifest such an open doorway that your true being may bring forth a miracle that will ascend Earth's conscious into a golden age?




Completing the annihilation phase I would think.  Then agreement with what comes after and tolerance for the new mode of being.




Peace to you too.:heart:


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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: Cursive]
    #14215118 - 03/31/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you guys for the responses. I guess the only thing stopping a soul from acting such grace, and don't misinterpret the way I say this, would be that the individual needs to take a GOOD look at our previous ascended masters (Buddha, Krishna, Jesus) and "take on the true challenge to reach your individual 'Christ' potential to be the open doorway for the all possible." Buddha did the 40 days and nights which gave him a quantum leap in his individual path. Jesus was missing from the bible for 18 years, most likely exploring the world to experience things, as the Buddha did as well, and came to a point when he was around the age of 30 where he decided who he wanted to BE.

Extra feedback would be much appreciated. Love for everyone! :heart:


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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: Cursive]
    #14215167 - 03/31/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I do enjoy your non-sectarian attitude. All of these teachers were great, and non better than the other. They simply found different words to describe the greatness. Much which has been misinterpreted throughout the ages, although the wisdom is there for one who looks with an open mind.


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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: Cursive]
    #14215453 - 03/31/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

zen master rama said he could walk on water among other miracles, his students said he would frequently fill a room with golden light he emitted

here are some good quotes by him: http://ramaquotes.com/html/rama_buddha.html


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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: deff]
    #14217936 - 03/31/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)





I am so fucking sorry, I never do this shit

but as soon as I saw this title, I just HAD to
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forgive me.


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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: electricfeel]
    #14218037 - 03/31/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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electricfeel said:

I am so fucking sorry, I never do this shit

but as soon as I saw this title, I just HAD to
:lol:



forgive me.




You know, I felt this karma being attracted to me at some point. And now I'm about to have to force myself to watch this. Thanks a lot. I never wanted to ever have to hear ICP once in my life. And I never have heard them.

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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: Cursive]
    #14218051 - 03/31/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

OP, you should check out Hume's essay On Miracles if you haven't already: http://www.bartleby.com/37/3/14.html


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Re: Question about miracles.. [Re: deCypher]
    #14250190 - 04/06/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i like this excerpt from a youtube video about 528 hz

"There is a special sound and color of love according to Dr. Horowitz, a Harvard-trained award-winning investigator. Broadcasting the right frequency can help open your heart, prompt peace, and hasten healing. "We now know the love signal, 528 Hertz, is among the six core creative frequencies of the universe because math doesn't lie, the geometry of physical reality universally reflects this music; these findings have been independently derived, peer reviewed, and empirically validated," Dr. Horowitz says.

Horowitz & Puleo: Healing Codes for the Biological apocalypse, Idaho 1999.

The third note, frequency 528, relates to the note MI on the scale and derives from the phrase "MI-ra gestorum" in Latin meaning "miracle." Stunningly, this is the exact frequency used by genetic biochemists to repair broken DNA - the genetic blueprint upon which life is based! MI - 528 Hz - relates to crown chakra. Dr Puleo suggests an association with DNA integrity.


The regular "C" that we all know of in this culture (which is from the diatonic scale of do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti, do) is not the 528 Hz frequency "C.
A regular "C" vibrates at a frequency of 523.3 Hz.
The "C" of 528 Hz used for DNA repair is part of an ancient scale called the Solfeggio Scale."


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