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BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing
    #14209774 - 03/30/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So I have a bunch of BRF cakes colonizing, so far looking good. Im not sure they are stalled, but it seems the bottom of the cakes are taking F O R E V E R. I know patience is a key to growing mushrooms. I was just wondering if anything will help it grow on the bottom? Such as warmer conditions (mine is around 73-75) or turning them upside down. There like at 75% colonized easy. On all of them its the bottom yet to colonize, or is this normal?


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14209786 - 03/30/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I say give in about another week or so if it doesn't continue colonizing just  start the fruiting process. cant do nothin else really


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: AciD.DuRaN]
    #14209828 - 03/30/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The long colonization time is typical of tall half-pints. You might have also made them a tad too wet.  They should colonize, it will take a while.

One thing you can do to track colonization is put a piece of tape on the jars to mark where they mycelium is.  If you see that there has been no growth over the course of 4 days or so, they have stalled out.


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: MycoUnderground]
    #14209845 - 03/30/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Do you have GE holes?


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: mabachko]
    #14209893 - 03/30/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Do you have GE holes?



Just the holes I used for Inoculation... there are 4 of them. And the holes were made with a Dremel tool, the needles fit perfectly into them. And Im almost certain their not stalled. I have noticed "some" growth, Im more worried that they will stall because it isn't reaching the bottom in time.


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14209903 - 03/30/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Do you have GE holes?



Just the holes I used for Inoculation... there are 4 of them. And the holes were made with a Dremel tool, the needles fit perfectly into them. And Im almost certain their not stalled. I have noticed "some" growth, Im more worried that they will stall because it isn't reaching the bottom in time.




And, just to clarify, did you use some sort of filter over the holes, or use and dry vermiculite barrier in the jars?


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14209920 - 03/30/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have 1 BRF cake that has taken a month so far and there is a 1/4 inch of uncolonized section at the bottom of the jar. So I keep waiting. It is slow growing, so I just wait. What else can you do, It's almost done.
How long has it been?


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: MycoUnderground]
    #14209934 - 03/30/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I do have a Dry Verm barrier and medical tape over the holes. They have been Colonzing for about 3 1/2 weeks. I just want to make sure that the bottoms do colonize to prevent stalling..


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14209975 - 03/30/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have taken advantage of the Search bar and there have been no real answers as to how to fix or attempt to fix this problem. Some have even want as far to say shake a BRF jar! And as far as I know that is a no no.. Others say to just take the tape off and flip them. I'm just looking for the best answer, in case it were to happen again or to someone else.


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14209991 - 03/30/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I use masking tape as well as a dry layer of verm and after 20% I poke a hole in one of the holes for GE using a steril needle.
I do the same at 80% on the other hole.
I only use 2 holes.
Give it some more time.


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14210011 - 03/30/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Don't shake or flip them.  Also, when you use a dry verm barrier you should leave the holes in the lid open.  The verm barrier is sufficient and a filter.  Having tape over the holes alo restricts gas exchange, and that could be part of the slow colonization.


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: MycoUnderground]
    #14210018 - 03/30/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yea your right, but the other jars did okay. I was just taking an extra step to be on the safe side, and I can wait for this other jar.
I figure the inside of the cake will be ready when the last 1/4 inch is done.


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: mabachko]
    #14210034 - 03/30/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry mabachko I was referring to Dyngbreed.


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: MycoUnderground]
    #14210100 - 03/30/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No problem.


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: mabachko]
    #14210525 - 03/30/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Honestly, just let them sit, they will colonize it just takes time, patience is definitely the hardest part for me  :facepalm3:


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: CyanescensRule]
    #14213521 - 03/31/11 06:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well I have about 10 colonizing, so I figured I would experiment. I took a marker and outlined the growth of 3 on the bottom of the jars. Flipped them over and increased the temp from 71-72 to 75-76. I guess even if they do colonize fast(er) it really isn't proven anything. With my luck those 3 were going to be the fastest anyway HAHA. I did pick 3 that had the most left to go. So I guess I will wait another week and post my find.

Thanks for your help guys! I can always count on the Shroomery :pipesmoke:


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14213545 - 03/31/11 06:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've had tall jars that looked like that before, that never fully colonized on the bottom.  I just fruited them out of the jars, and it worked fine.


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14213554 - 03/31/11 06:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I've had tall jars that looked like that before, that never fully colonized on the bottom.  I just fruited them out of the jars, and it worked fine.



I thought doing so would open up for contams??


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14213556 - 03/31/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ohh, shit. Never mind you said out of the "jars" stupid me. What strain were you using? These are brazils. And i still need to put this in the FC to do so right??


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Re: BRF Jars, Trouble Colonizing [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14219294 - 04/01/11 06:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Good news, not one of my jars seems to be stalled. Each has grown about a Centimeter inside of the marker line! Woohoo! :rockon:


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