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NCC1701



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yet another how to dry mushrooms thread
#14208308 - 03/30/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have been doing a lot of reading on how to dry mushrooms because my first flush ever is ready for harvest but there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether or not heat is OK and that oxidation causes mushrooms to lose potency. So three questions 1. how hot is too hot? 2. If oxidation causes potency loss why would I put the mushrooms in front of a fan? 3. What is the best way to dry mushrooms while preserving the maximum amount of potency?
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: NCC1701]
#14208314 - 03/30/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Desiccant?
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biologys
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: NCC1701]
#14208318 - 03/30/11 08:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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its old outdated info that heat kills potency, alot of ppl use ovens,
I even started doing something that I saw RR posting about, and grilling my active's, and there is no potency loss..
use a dehydrator if you want to get it done the quickest and simpliest way..
you can use a fan, but will take a good while
as well you can place your oven on the lowest temp setting, and leave the door cracked open, and keep check on them until cracker-dry
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: biologys]
#14208354 - 03/30/11 08:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Heat dose decrease potency but you have to get it hot enough.. like burning them with a flame.
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: biologys]
#14208366 - 03/30/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cheap food dehydrators from Wally World work, and the heating element can be disconnected.
You can use Drierite/drywall/calcium sulphate as a desiccant, which can be recharged in a hot oven.
Damp rid from Lowes works, but turn liquid, and can be recharged in an oven.
Combo - fan for a few hours to get them drying, and then desicate in a chamber.
The desicant chambers work fast, and preserve the product well.
Also, sprinkling vitamin C on them, while wet, absorbs and inhibits oxidation.
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biologys
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: skiddy]
#14208380 - 03/30/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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skiddy said: Heat dose decrease potency but you have to get it hot enough.. like burning them with a flame.
this is not true at all...'burning them with a flame', so you're saying you're going to burn them with a flame and get them hotter then about 1200 degree's on a hot grill? I dont think so
now if you put them in extreme heat for long periods of time then yes, but as far as a dehydrator, or oven long enough to cracker-dry them, there will be no noticeable potency loss
Edited by biologys (03/30/11 09:05 AM)
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: biologys]
#14208437 - 03/30/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i've put this shit to the test i don't care what anyone chimes in on this if you over heat 90 degree + you will experience loss of potency plain and simple i completly fucked my first ever batch from letting them sit on the next to bottom rack of a food dehydrator this is not a hard concept and here is your easiest way fuckin period get a bucket of damprid (automotive section of wally) use fan to get shrooms dry to the touch on the surface after that put shrooms in paper bag, fold, drop in bucket of damprid. DONE
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: Grungeman17] 2
#14208472 - 03/30/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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eye herd If U shake em hard the water falls outta dem
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: Grungeman17]
#14208474 - 03/30/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: i've put this shit to the test i don't care what anyone chimes in on this if you over heat 90 degree + you will experience loss of potency plain and simple i completly fucked my first ever batch from letting them sit on the next to bottom rack of a food dehydrator this is not a hard concept and here is your easiest way fuckin period get a bucket of damprid (automotive section of wally) use fan to get shrooms dry to the touch on the surface after that put shrooms in paper bag, fold, drop in bucket of damprid. DONE
were they grown using a multispore inoculation? you never know... the lack of potency very well could have been genetic.. you had no way of knowing what the potency was BEFORE you dried them, right?
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biologys
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14208576 - 03/30/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DJYoshaBYD said:
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Grungeman17 said: i've put this shit to the test i don't care what anyone chimes in on this if you over heat 90 degree + you will experience loss of potency plain and simple i completly fucked my first ever batch from letting them sit on the next to bottom rack of a food dehydrator this is not a hard concept and here is your easiest way fuckin period get a bucket of damprid (automotive section of wally) use fan to get shrooms dry to the touch on the surface after that put shrooms in paper bag, fold, drop in bucket of damprid. DONE
were they grown using a multispore inoculation? you never know... the lack of potency very well could have been genetic.. you had no way of knowing what the potency was BEFORE you dried them, right?
exactly, ppl grow a weak batch and they're quick to jump to THIS WAS WHY THEY aRENT POTENT...fail to realize that its completely random genetic's..
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: Grungeman17]
#14209227 - 03/30/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: i don't care what anyone chimes in on this if you over heat 90 degree + you will experience loss of potency
Completely 100% incorrect. I've extracted psilocybin with boiling ethanol at 75C. Lots of people make tea, cook mushrooms on pizza, or even BBQ them.
Dehydrator is the way to go, with damprid for finishing/touching up.
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: Doc_T]
#14209837 - 03/30/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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so if i put them in my oven at 170 ill be fine? btw thanks for all the great replies
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: NCC1701]
#14209874 - 03/30/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't go over 170, lower if you can. My dehydrator runs around 130. Faster drying certainly affects taste and texture even if the magic is not degraded.
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: Grungeman17]
#14209928 - 03/30/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: i've put this shit to the test i don't care what anyone chimes in on this if you over heat 90 degree + you will experience loss of potency plain and simple
beating the dead horse... but how exactly did you test for potency?
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: k00laid]
#14210012 - 03/30/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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b+ cake first flush cracker dried in dehydrator... effects: pure and utter disappointment... same cake second flush, ate straight off the cake same relative weight to dried amount: sky rockets in flight... its ok if i am incorrect but cool drying is the way to go imo.
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: Grungeman17]
#14210156 - 03/30/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dessicants would be less invasive to structural and chemical properties. Drawing the water out rather than forcing it out with heat or um, shaking... lol. Ensuring that the finished product is the same as fresh, only with water removed. Yes?
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: Grungeman17]
#14210396 - 03/30/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: b+ cake first flush cracker dried in dehydrator... effects: pure and utter disappointment... same cake second flush, ate straight off the cake same relative weight to dried amount: sky rockets in flight... its ok if i am incorrect but cool drying is the way to go imo.
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: esquaredx]
#14278290 - 04/12/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have a dehydrator with heat element. Will this be okay? So many conflicting opinions!!!
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: velvetmagician]
#14278354 - 04/12/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Perfect.
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Re: yet another how to dry mushrooms thread [Re: Doc_T]
#14278362 - 04/12/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks again Doc!!!! (This guy is a life saver to dumb asses!)
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