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Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes)
    #14154852 - 03/20/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I found the following information to be extremely interesting and important, and maybe you will too. If not, oh well, I posted this here for people to consider and discuss. I encourage any comments and/or feedback, as I am sharing this information for others to consider, critique, analyze, and discuss. I hope you enjoy it too:

Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes):


...and...

Heavy Watergate:
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Best wishes,

-Abe


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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: PookztA] * 1
    #14154935 - 03/20/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Here we go again...

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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #14155166 - 03/20/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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ChuangTzu said:
Here we go again...




I hope you are having an excellent day ChaungTzu, and I hope that you find this information interesting and/or enjoyable.

Best wishes,

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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: PookztA]
    #14155289 - 03/20/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks, you too.

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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #14155330 - 03/20/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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ChuangTzu said:
Thanks, you too.




you are welcome, and thanks to you as well :smile:



by the way, yet another team has replicated 'cold' fusion, posted their results just recently in Jan 2011:


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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: PookztA]
    #14157853 - 03/21/11 03:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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posted their results




I see they've notified the world of this breakthrough via the medium through which all serious scientific discoveries are announced: a youtube video :foreheadslap:



Far as I can see, they wrote a paper nobody would publish, and then resorted to posting a copy of it on their own website.  Having a website, alas, even one with a serious-sounding name, isn't the mark of credibility.

Maybe they should go over to North Korea- the Dear Leaderβ„’ has been known to bend the laws of physics on his birthday, and he's got one coming up.  Maybe this year he'll grace this cold fusion team with his divine intervention like he did with a homegrown fusion advance last year: 

Pyongyang says its latest scientific breakthrough coincides with the birthday of the country's founder, and eternal president Kim Il-sung - not the first time it seems that the laws of nature have been bent in his honour.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8676678.stm

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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: johnm214]
    #14157982 - 03/21/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I love this gem, "The fact that radiation is produced is proof of a nuclear reaction."

Edit: I assume he meant something like "gamma radiation" as the production of radiation occurs every time I flip my light switch, yet I don't hear anybody claiming that my light bulb is a cold fusion reactor.


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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: Seuss]
    #14161876 - 03/21/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe you should claim your light bulbs capable of such feats.  It could be lucrative.


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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #14190899 - 03/27/11 07:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh we already have much better power sources proven. Too bad interest groups such as big corporations, much less the governments of the worlds themselves kill researchers whom take it too far.


What about this? The USA has it going on as well.



Seems Advanced Energy sources are much more about politic's and money then actual science; such as this world is. Medicine isn't about helping people either, it's about money.




Edited by iluvfungi (03/27/11 07:25 AM)

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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14191422 - 03/27/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: ChuangTzu] * 1
    #14198128 - 03/28/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #14198859 - 03/28/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks Abe!

Happy birthday!

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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: PookztA] * 1
    #14202072 - 03/29/11 02:47 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

PookztA (and everyone else):

In the future please do not continue to post in this manner: making new threads with no substantial original content or that consist of essentially a list of youtube links.

Additionally, please make sure that your post is on topic for the Science and Technology forum by including some discussion of the science behind your topic or why you specifically feel your topic has scientific merit/ should be reconsidered by mainstream science.

The Science Board should not be used as if it were a place to just dump links and run.  If your going to make a thread, you must start some substantial on topic discussion.

Thanks
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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: johnm214]
    #14202259 - 03/29/11 04:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: teknix]
    #14206802 - 03/29/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i hate to derail this thread, but why do i feel like cold fusion is bullshit?


that is like saying i've created fire at room temperature? i mean cmon, there is no (REAL) fire at room temperature, and how the hell can you have fusion at room temperature?


cmon dude, i'll believe it when i see it

well... i don't know, i guess if you call it a slow nuclear reaction instead of calling it actual fusion reaction


that is like saying the difference between an atomic explosion and a little radiation. although in a reactor, fission isn't on a level of an atomic explosion, the radiation, if not contained, that would be released, would be about the same, as we've seen.


this is interesting, i don't know what's going on in there, it's hard to believe it's fusion with no radiation(as fusion does make radiation, maybe not as much as fission, but still quite a bit). i don't know what it'd be though

if it's possible for fusion to occur at such a slow rate, idk then :shrug:


BUT, if this works so well, why isn't it powering several hundred power plants? what is the hold up?


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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14207091 - 03/29/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Seems Advanced Energy sources are much more about politic's and money then actual science; such as this world is. Medicine isn't about helping people either, it's about money.









you think so? a friend of mine patented an idea on auto cad for a renewable energy source. it involved a large battery, underneath a building, a more commercial building, and a ramp on the top where cars drive in. when cars drive in, they drive over this ramp that presses down on a device that spins a turbine or whatever, generating energy. if you had a burger king, you could power your burger king all day with the cars driving in and out.

not saying everyone in the world would have used this idea, but a lot of people would have.


i'm sure installing it would be a pain in the ass, and it wouldn't be of much to anyone unless they had quite a lot of people driving in and out of a lot, but none the less for people who'd want it it would do a lot of good, and potentially save them a shit load of money on their electricity bills, if they mostly used the generator.

when this generator would run out of energy, you could switch back to city power. imagine the money you'd save.



obviously, this and a lot of other ideas falls to deaf ears, when it comes to politics, money made comes first, everyone else's benefit comes second :foreheadslap:


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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: imachavel]
    #14207841 - 03/30/11 04:47 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I doubt you could get enough energy from that to break even with installation costs even figured over the life of the device.


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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: imachavel]
    #14207851 - 03/30/11 04:54 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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it involved a large battery, underneath a building, a more commercial building, and a ramp on the top where cars drive in. when cars drive in, they drive over this ramp that presses down on a device that spins a turbine or whatever, generating energy. if you had a burger king, you could power your burger king all day with the cars driving in and out.




What you mean is, you let the customers pay the electricity bill by having them spend more gas money?


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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: Asante]
    #14207861 - 03/30/11 05:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

^^^ true, but if you applied the concept to a multi-story parking structure, there's no extra cost since they drive up there anyway.
Use a generator as a magnetic brake for the lowering elevator, and you could harvest some "free" energy.


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Re: Cold Fusion - More Than Junk Science (CBS News | 60 Minutes) [Re: Doc_T]
    #14213192 - 03/31/11 03:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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^^^ true, but if you applied the concept to a multi-story parking structure, there's no extra cost since they drive up there anyway.
Use a generator as a magnetic brake for the lowering elevator, and you could harvest some "free" energy.




yeah... or a burger king drive through window, where dozens and dozens of cars drive by every hour. but to be honest the politics in inventing that crap would just be insane. i'm sure you could get some really reliable customers if you advertised right, but really i think it'd be a waste of money to design, build, and market such a thing, maybe if you already HAD 100 mil, then it'd be no big deal i guess, just another venture. idk best idea would be to sell the patent, hope to get a few mil for it and retire.


it's a good enough idea sure... but probly not many people would go for it. it'd be like everything else, a failure at first, 100 years from now probly the next next next next next generation design of it will have made it the biggest thing, but for now i'm sure it's useless garbage


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