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The Australian Sex Party (ASP)
    #14205806 - 03/29/11 08:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The Australian Sex Party

Reminds me of a certain Simpsons scene...

SEX!

Now that I have your attention....

And it seems to be basically the same dealio here.
For anyone who knows of the party, you'll know it's more of a libertarian group... and isn't about orgies :-p.

I'm not a huge fan of party politics, but I understand that it's pretty much the only way to fight imbecilism, which seems to have taken hold and is running rife in Australian (and most western) politics.

The Australian Sex Party seems to have a pretty good model for decision making within the party, as well as policy adoption and adaptation (the adaptation part, it seems a lot of political parties miss.. the evolution and changing of times).

I voted and supported them during the last Victorian election, and am glad to see them in ideological wars with the far-right.



That's Wendy Francis (FAMILY FIRST) speaking with Fiona Patten (ASP).

Have you heard of the ASP?  Support them?


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Re: The Australian Sex Party (ASP) [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14210549 - 03/30/11 04:41 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

4 boobs on their main page. They've got my vote.

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Re: The Australian Sex Party (ASP) [Re: JT]
    #14212495 - 03/30/11 10:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: The Australian Sex Party (ASP) [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14213682 - 03/31/11 07:57 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm sure working Australians would be confident of the stewardship from this party and its management of the nation's 1 trillion dollar a year GDP. It's not like Australia has much to lose given it ranks in the top three most livable nations on the planet. After all the ALP and the Greens are doing such a fine job at present with their proposed taxing to death of the economy, that they'd no doubt offer some well honed advice to the sex party if they became the incumbent govt.

Seriously, other nations must be laughing at the idiocy of Australia. What other idiot nation has these crack pot parties and wants to squander the living standards that we have?

I read their policies. They’re a bogus party. They have nothing about job creation, housing affordability, economic growth, natural resource management, trade, tax reforms and foreign investment limitations on ownership of real estate – the real issues of a real political party.

I’ll tell you something. The biggest issue at stake right now with Australians is housing affordability and many don’t seem to realize it. I don’t have to worry as I don’t have debts. I own my house outright and have other investments. But the point is: the majority of Gen Y will never own their own dream with near everything they earn vanishing in ever increasing rents. Australia has become a society of ‘have’ and ‘have-not’ in property, which is the proxy for ‘have’ and ‘have-not’ in wealth and this gap is growing.

If you think seriously about what you have, and I suspect it’s a HECS debt, you have a long and arduous road unless you have well heeled olds to cover your ar$e. With property moving at 7% per annum on average, regardless of rise and fall, that’s a doubling time every 10 years i.e. a cheap 300k property will be 1.2 million in just 20 years. This is an issue that presses more every day and yet issues like same sex marriage and letting in country shopper boat people, as pushed by these crack pot parties, is more important to them.


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Re: The Australian Sex Party (ASP) [Re: Starter]
    #14213752 - 03/31/11 08:29 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Most democratic countries have these strange microparties. They're just special interest groups, the ASP's interest being the sex industry/ sex workers. They're usually microparties for a reason.

Smaller parties (even the ones that have good policies) don't really have a chance anyway, when we have a bipartisan monopoly.


@ZenXi6: I think that last post crosses the line into spam.


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Re: The Australian Sex Party (ASP) [Re: TimmiT]
    #14214122 - 03/31/11 10:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

No his post was a reply to mine, it's the pic I was talking about.

And like you said, every democratic country has these nicroparties. I don't think there's any chance of them actually getting elected. But they spread the word about what is an important message for some australians, so I think they have their place.

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Re: The Australian Sex Party (ASP) [Re: JT]
    #14216142 - 03/31/11 05:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Starter - I agree with your points, overall.

I worry so much about the fact that I will probably never be able to afford a house, and I don't see the current political parties as addressing that system, hence my reluctance to support what I (and many in my generation) see as archaic megolithic parties, for a time passed.

The ASP started, more or less, as an advocate for the sex industry - but when it started, they aimed to get a lot more involved that just with sex industry issues... They saw it all as personal freedom issues.

I feel that one of the main problems, underlying what you listed above, is that we have a cycle that keeps going around and around of political parties focussing so much on the economy, that now we have regulation after regulation appeasing the past regulation and we have politics for the sake of politics, rather than good governance for the people.

I don't have the solution... I'm not sure what it is, because there's a lot to take in to account in the governance of a nation with anything more than a few hundred people in it.  But, I feel like we have media and government so stuck in their own cycles of logic, that they have forgotten how to think outside it, and forgotten that it is most important to let people have their personal freedoms so that new and better ideas CAN be found.

We have a housing affordability crisis, as you mentioned - but perhaps the crisis has more to do with the way taxation and wealth are distributed, with the way that housing and land regulations become more and more complicated - for the protection of the individual of course, with the way that everyone feels they need to tip-toe around the big issues, in case of being sued etc...

We have spread one's self-responsibility too far, and we have spread the governments powers too far that they can't focus on their most important of jobs - keeping people genuinely honest in the pursuit of their free affairs. 

And yes, the picture was a reply to JT.  It has boobs in it.  :facepalm3:


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Re: The Australian Sex Party (ASP) [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14220202 - 04/01/11 11:20 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i've tried to no avail at uni in asking these questions to Gen Y and wanted a serious answer. Are you telling me Gen Y are hedonists with no care to the future? Please don't think I'm some fundi-dudi as I'm genuinely concerned over the future of the next generation and its market impact. If enough of Gen Y feel this way the current real estate market is doomed.

Edited by Starter (04/01/11 11:21 AM)

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Re: The Australian Sex Party (ASP) [Re: Starter]
    #14224647 - 04/02/11 02:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The Australian political scene is a farce, full of false hope, bible bashing and of course broken promises.

We live in the land of red tape and regulation, practically with a two party system. The problem in Australia is that policy is dictated by politicians not people that actually know what they are talking about. If you don't agree go look at some government reports firstly there is the initial report, by professionals, of some 250 pages then some government desk jockey produces an executive summary. Politicians make decisions with bad and incomplete information. This is the folly of our political system. And alas after a state or federal government’s term is up and they are ousted the cycle repeats with the opposing party, which creates crappy legislation that is barely understandable even to legal experts.

Watch the carbon tax legislation in effect, then watch it be reviewed and amended, then watch it be reviewed again, then watch another government try to disband it. Then watch industry move off-shores.

How many politicians would sit in the upper house to introduce an environmental legislation? Less than half maybe. How many politicians would sit in on a motion to increase their pay and pension? A full house. Self-serving twats that they are.


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