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InvisibleM11
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Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why?
    #14205717 - 03/29/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey folks,

I have been very confused as of late with consolidation of bulk substrates.  It seems that very few people do it on these boards, yet they fully endorse the consolidation of PF cakes.  Why is this? 

I have found that after 100% colonization of a bulk substrate, allowing it to consolidate for another week improves even pin sets and yields. This is the same principle which supports the consolidation of PF cakes. 

:facepalm3:

Also, I have found that initiating fruiting conditions immediately after 100% colonization doesn't really improve the time until harvest.  Most often, the cakes or bulk substrate will spend about 5-7 days sitting there until knotting and then pinning anyway.

I have even heard RR state that commercial mushrooms farms always give their bulk substrates a considerable consolidation period.  Why is it that on the Shroomery people are so hasty with the bulk substrates?  Does one week really matter, especially when considering yields will likely improve after consolidation and that time until harvest isn't really improved?

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: M11]
    #14205755 - 03/29/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

cause ppl wanna get high noW!!!

atleast i do :P

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14205877 - 03/29/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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cause ppl wanna get high noW!!!

atleast i do :P



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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? *DELETED* [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14205902 - 03/29/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: mikehauncho]
    #14205972 - 03/29/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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mikehauncho said:
An amount of people who grow mushrooms on this website happen to grow mushrooms that their government deems extremely dangerous so the game becomes hot potato, get the substrate pinned and outa there asap




I am still not convinced by this.  I don't think fruiting sooner without consolidating will get you pins any faster.


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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: M11]
    #14206007 - 03/29/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i don't birth until i see knots.

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14206570 - 03/29/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

A week after full colonization should be considered minimum.  Exposing to fruiting conditions earlier will only dry out your substrate.  Harvest is definitely better if you wait 2 to 3 weeks after full colonization before fruiting bulk substrates.
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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14206687 - 03/29/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

interesting. thanks RR. glad i caught that. im planning my bulk grow right now. 50 quart jars to 10 monotubs :smile:

definitely want to get the most out of them. :smile:

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: Ajaxx]
    #14206823 - 03/29/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I like to wait until I see pins, if possible.

I am not in a hurry.

...but Semperviva is pushing it!  Ssssslllllooooowwwwwwww.....

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14206888 - 03/29/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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A week after full colonization should be considered minimum.  Exposing to fruiting conditions earlier will only dry out your substrate.  Harvest is definitely better if you wait 2 to 3 weeks after full colonization before fruiting bulk substrates.
RR





Ever since the first time I saw rr post about commercial growers
letting bulk consolidate I've done just that

Fruiting space is valuable colonizing space is cheap

Wait tell your bins let you know that there ready

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: jokefox]
    #14207297 - 03/30/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My first few times i rushed it, didnt know better and had more important experiments than seeing what waiting longer would do . Now that I have enough substrate, i always wait.

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14207321 - 03/30/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
A week after full colonization should be considered minimum.  Exposing to fruiting conditions earlier will only dry out your substrate.  Harvest is definitely better if you wait 2 to 3 weeks after full colonization before fruiting bulk substrates.
RR



For cakes I always hear 1 week consolidation. Why is there a difference in consolidation times?


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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14207517 - 03/30/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Edited by Luger0815 (07/04/11 11:51 AM)

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: Luger0815]
    #14207969 - 03/30/11 06:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
    #14208003 - 03/30/11 06:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just do what RR says and everything will work out ok.


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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: Master Shake]
    #14208013 - 03/30/11 06:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Just do what RR says and everything will work out ok.




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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: Master Shake] * 1
    #14208100 - 03/30/11 07:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Just do what RR says and everything will work out ok.




although he is very knowledgeable, this has to be the most retarded ignorant thing i've read in a while...

:blowme:
^u  ^him

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: shroomiin]
    #14208111 - 03/30/11 07:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lol RR is like the shroomery's Jesus.


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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: shroomiin]
    #14208123 - 03/30/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hes got a point though....i mean do you have a 2 set dvd thoroughly explaining the details of mushroom cultivation? and a commercial farm? or anyone here for that matter?




im not saying hes never wrong but i think when it comes to the basics theres really no correcting him unless theres new info or something.

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Re: Very few on the Shroomery consolidate bulk substrates. Why? [Re: Obey]
    #14208132 - 03/30/11 07:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Lol RR is like the shroomery's Jesus.




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